What happened to the old Turtles in the FF timeline?

*CyberCubed* · 06-09-2011, 12:53 PM

As we know the present day Turtles travel 100 years into the future. But where were the Turtles of that normal timeline? Did they die from old age?

In the Mirage comics and Archie series, the Turtles live for way over 100 years old.

Yet in the 4kids series, we're more or less led to believe they all died before 100 years in the future. Would it have been better if the Turtles met their future "older" selves 100 years in the future?

*ToTheNines* · 06-09-2011, 01:04 PM

I'm definitely glad it was left open-ended. They're probably dead, but maybe Raph's livining alone in a swamp, missing an eye. Maybe Mike's out in parts unknown of deep space. Maybe Leo's living by himself in a tree-hut.

Either way, life at best is bittersweet.

*Master Splinter* · 06-09-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

As we know the present day Turtles travel 100 years into the future. But where were the Turtles of that normal timeline? Did they die from old age?

In the Mirage comics and Archie series, the Turtles live for way over 100 years old.

Yet in the 4kids series, we're more or less led to believe they all died before 100 years in the future. Would it have been better if the Turtles met their future "older" selves 100 years in the future?

Let's ask Doc and Marty how well the complexities of time travel have worked for them...

-ms

~~ABrown~~ · 06-09-2011, 02:01 PM

Well, if they were still alive, that would mean that they were at least 114 years old. So I would think that they've probably all been dead for 30-40 years or so.

k_lala · 06-09-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

As we know the present day Turtles travel 100 years into the future. But where were the Turtles of that normal timeline? Did they die from old age?

In the Mirage comics and Archie series, the Turtles live for way over 100 years old.

Yet in the 4kids series, we're more or less led to believe they all died before 100 years in the future. Would it have been better if the Turtles met their future "older" selves 100 years in the future?

Wow are you serious? How did they live that long in the comic books? That don't make sense.

*ToTheNines* · 06-09-2011, 06:14 PM

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Wow are you serious? How did they live that long in the comic books? That don't make sense.

Leo and Don definitely live past 100, the other two are anybody's guess.

k_lala · 06-09-2011, 06:19 PM

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Leo and Don definitely live past 100, the other two are anybody's guess.

That's interesting... I think they should recton that but that's my opinion. I just don't see how they could live that long, but then again i don't know much about Turtles.

*ToTheNines* · 06-09-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by k_lala

That's interesting... I think they should recton that but that's my opinion. I just don't see how they could live that long, but then again i don't know much about Turtles.

I mean... it happens in the future so there's really no point in retconning anything that far ahead in the timeline. Unless you're saying one (or all) of the Turtles should die in battle at a younger age.

But again, moot point. The Mirage continuity is dead.

*Icebot* · 06-09-2011, 06:24 PM

I always thought they were dead in 2105 after watching the old toon episode Once Upon A Time Machine. They were aging big time in that episode and it was only 2036 so I figured the 4kids turtles would be dead in 2105.

FlippytheMaster · 06-09-2011, 08:52 PM

I think we can safely assume that either they were killed in some ninja battle or are just hiding. Or maybe it's a plot hole. Eh, whatever.

*Revan* · 06-09-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by k_lala

That's interesting... I think they should recton that but that's my opinion. I just don't see how they could live that long, but then again i don't know much about Turtles.

Splinter was a rat and he lived to be about 46
- The average lifespan of a rat is 2-3 years. So he is most likely around that age when exposed to the transmat waste. 15 years pass and we find ourselves at volume 1. Let's say now he is 17.
- About 30 years pass and we find ourselves in volume 4. Now splinter should be around 47 when he dies. So the mutagen increased Splinter's life exponentially.

- The average lifespan of a red eared slider can be around 20 years. The mutagen multiplied Splinter's life span 23.5 times what his species should live. So if a slider can live to be 20, multiply that by 23.5 and the turtles could theoretically live to be approximately 470. Of course this is all assuming the transmat biproduct has the same effect on the turtles as Splinter.

The turtles could live for a long long time.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

As we know the present day Turtles travel 100 years into the future. But where were the Turtles of that normal timeline? Did they die from old age?

In the Mirage comics and Archie series, the Turtles live for way over 100 years old.

Yet in the 4kids series, we're more or less led to believe they all died before 100 years in the future. Would it have been better if the Turtles met their future "older" selves 100 years in the future?

To answer this question, I think they are all still alive but they simply do not want to interfere with their past selves. Apparently they got it right the first time and do not want to risk messing up the nice timeline they have going... a la back to the future part III

**Jester** · 06-09-2011, 08:58 PM

Yes, but if the Turtles survived to the >> universe...why wasn't Donnie more active in the operations of O'Neil Tech. And why didn't bishop tap the still living Mutant Ninja Turtles eariler? Heck, if they lived to be 400+ years, they could be teenagers several times over.

*Revan* · 06-09-2011, 09:00 PM

No, they are probably dead. I was merely commenting on k_lala's post about how he/she didn't think the turtles could live that long and so it should be retconed

**Jester** · 06-09-2011, 09:25 PM

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No, they are probably dead. I was merely commenting on k_lala's post about how he/she didn't think the turtles could live that long and so it should be retconed

Ok...just thought I'd add it into the discussion is all.

*Revan* · 06-09-2011, 09:27 PM

I totally just contradicted myself. First I said I thought they were alive, then I said I thought they were dead. Doi

I suppose I don't know what I think... feels strange not to have an opinion

*Jephael* · 09-06-2011, 09:59 AM

I once wrote a fan fiction where Cody takes the TMNT to the Jones farm in Northampton and they find out Donatello is still alive in the future. I like to think he would've outlasted the others by atleast a couple decades.

*Candy Kappa* · 09-06-2011, 10:08 AM

Do we know if the Turtles came back to their time in that future time line FF is set in?

There is the episode with that book, but that was all a prank on the turtles.

*Ninjinister* · 09-06-2011, 01:01 PM

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But again, moot point. The Mirage continuity is dead.

No it isn't.

*BubblyShell22* · 09-06-2011, 01:24 PM

I assumed that maybe they died since Cody was so happy to see them. If they were still alive in that continuity, Cody would've been really confused when he saw them and made some comment about it.

*ToTheNines* · 09-06-2011, 03:15 PM

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No it isn't.

Cryogenically frozen?

06-09-2011, 12:53 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,819	What happened to the old Turtles in the FF timeline? As we know the present day Turtles travel 100 years into the future. But where were the Turtles of that normal timeline? Did they die from old age? In the Mirage comics and Archie series, the Turtles live for way over 100 years old. Yet in the 4kids series, we're more or less led to believe they all died before 100 years in the future. Would it have been better if the Turtles met their future "older" selves 100 years in the future?

06-09-2011, 08:58 PM	#12
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,297	Yes, but if the Turtles survived to the >> universe...why wasn't Donnie more active in the operations of O'Neil Tech. And why didn't bishop tap the still living Mutant Ninja Turtles eariler? Heck, if they lived to be 400+ years, they could be teenagers several times over. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

06-09-2011, 09:00 PM	#13
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	No, they are probably dead. I was merely commenting on k_lala's post about how he/she didn't think the turtles could live that long and so it should be retconed __________________

06-09-2011, 09:27 PM	#15
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I totally just contradicted myself. First I said I thought they were alive, then I said I thought they were dead. Doi I suppose I don't know what I think... feels strange not to have an opinion __________________

09-06-2011, 09:59 AM	#16
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I once wrote a fan fiction where Cody takes the TMNT to the Jones farm in Northampton and they find out Donatello is still alive in the future. I like to think he would've outlasted the others by atleast a couple decades. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

06-09-2011, 01:04 PM	#2
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,238	I'm definitely glad it was left open-ended. They're probably dead, but maybe Raph's livining alone in a swamp, missing an eye. Maybe Mike's out in parts unknown of deep space. Maybe Leo's living by himself in a tree-hut. Either way, life at best is bittersweet.

06-09-2011, 02:01 PM	#4
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	Well, if they were still alive, that would mean that they were at least 114 years old. So I would think that they've probably all been dead for 30-40 years or so.

06-09-2011, 06:24 PM	#9
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	I always thought they were dead in 2105 after watching the old toon episode Once Upon A Time Machine. They were aging big time in that episode and it was only 2036 so I figured the 4kids turtles would be dead in 2105.

06-09-2011, 08:52 PM	#10
FlippytheMaster Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Right behind you. Posts: 47	I think we can safely assume that either they were killed in some ninja battle or are just hiding. Or maybe it's a plot hole. Eh, whatever.

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Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Do we know if the Turtles came back to their time in that future time line FF is set in? There is the episode with that book, but that was all a prank on the turtles. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

09-06-2011, 01:24 PM	#19
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I assumed that maybe they died since Cody was so happy to see them. If they were still alive in that continuity, Cody would've been really confused when he saw them and made some comment about it. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.