Poor Baxter Stockman

TMNT_2010 · 06-14-2011, 11:59 PM

When I used to watch the show as a kid I always looked forward to the next episode with Baxter Stockman since I kept hoping he would turn back into a human at some point.

When he first appeared he was just a regular guy with a good idea who wanted to help people get rid of rats. Then Shredder used him, mostly by bullying him around and verbally abusing him and he started going a bit nuts.

Throw in a mutation into a fly and he finally snaps. It always just seemed like if he turned back into a human maybe he could go back to being a normal guy. Instead he's stuck as a fly forever.

Anybody else felt sorry for Poor Baxter Stockman?

And didn't the turtles basically steal his car and his things to make the turtle van?

*CyberCubed* · 06-15-2011, 12:02 AM

Fun Fact: Baxter's last appearance in the original cartoon has him trapped in limbo between dimensional barriers again.

Since the show ended, we have no clue if Baxter ever got back to Earth or was lost in dimensional limbo forever.

*gobo* · 06-15-2011, 12:04 AM

Count me in. He was a tragic villain, seduced by evil.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 12:10 AM

In both universes, Baxter was a pretty pitiable character. I kinda hoped he'd be restored to a human in the FW series, he got the shaft, not just from Shredder and Krang, but the Turtles treated him very badly.

4Kids Baxter got a bit of a happy ending, working with President Bishop in the future.

*CyberCubed* · 06-15-2011, 12:31 AM

And in the comics, Donatello blasts Baxter to bits because he's sick of him hanging on his wall.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And in the comics, Donatello blasts Baxter to bits because he's sick of him hanging on his wall.

Poor Baxter Stockman, indeed.

*CyberCubed* · 06-15-2011, 12:35 AM

Its too bad Baxter never returns in the Archie series after the episode adaptions. Would have been interesting to see fly-Baxter in Archie, oh well.

*Spitfire* · 06-15-2011, 12:40 AM

Yeah I would have liked that too. Archie did some cool stuff with the characters it used. I don't know Baxter was better off left in limbo. His mind was degenerating. Every time he showed up he was more fly like. He was dangerous with the right person telling him what to do. If I remember though his computer buddy wasn't much but a circuit board by the end of his last encounter with the turtles. Unless he was like Brainiac I'd say he didn't last long.

*CyberCubed* · 06-15-2011, 12:43 AM

Yeah. I am kinda hoping the Nick version mutates him into a fly again, only so we can see another take of him like that.

Seems like we'll see human baxter using robots/cyborg stuff in the beginning of the Nick show, but I hope they mutate him later on.

*gobo* · 06-15-2011, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

4Kids Baxter got a bit of a happy ending, working with President Bishop in the future.

He also kinda deserved the tortures he was dealt. You lie with dogs, you wake up with turtle power up in yo face.

ChetTurtle · 06-15-2011, 01:34 AM

One of the few traditions kept in all tmnt universes (sans movies and NM) if they keep Stockman for the Nick show, another cyborg/mutant would be nice. Now that I think about it, Stockman in a movie could be very interesting

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 01:36 AM

Hmm....I wonder if we could have Baxter as the main villain in the next movie.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 · 06-15-2011, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Hmm....I wonder if we could have Baxter as the main villain in the next movie.

He was also in the second movie '' The secret of the ooze. He was working on TCRI and Shredder kidnaped him and he created Toka and Rahzar. What will happen to Nick baxter? I will like to see Baxter in Nick show to be a human and not be mutated or turned into a cyborg.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN 19

He was also in the second movie '' The secret of the ooze. He was working on TCRI and Shredder kidnaped him and he created Toka and Rahzar. What will happen to Nick baxter? I will like to see Baxter in Nick show to be a human and not be mutated or turned into a cyborg.

That wasn't Baxter, that was Prof. Jordan Perry.

plasticturtle · 06-15-2011, 05:45 AM

Wouldn't being trapped in dimensional limbo pretty much be a death sentence? I can't imagine there was anything like food and water there. Pretty soon he'll either starve, die of thirst or some combination of the two.

I guess it's just Baxter's lot in life to be crapped on.

**Jester** · 06-15-2011, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by robodog

Wouldn't being trapped in dimensional limbo pretty much be a death sentence? I can't imagine there was anything like food and water there. Pretty soon he'll either starve, die of thirst or some combination of the two.

I guess it's just Baxter's lot in life to be crapped on.

It's almost like Baxter was sent to the Phantom/Negative Zone...depending on which comic book company you like better.

*ssjup81* · 06-15-2011, 07:16 AM

For the OT, I really really felt sorry for Baxter and the treatment he received from Krang and Shredder wasn't deserved at all and still don't understand why they treated him like crap to the extent that they did.

Even when in fly form, I felt sorry for him, because of his intelligence leaving him having been turned into a fly.

As for Mirage Baxter, I didn't feel as sorry for him and I guess it's because he did all of his actions on his own, unless I missed something.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-24-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Hmm....I wonder if we could have Baxter as the main villain in the next movie.

Sounds good.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 06-24-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Hmm....I wonder if we could have Baxter as the main villain in the next movie.

yes, so long as it's Fly Baxter and not Black Baxter

ChetTurtle · 06-24-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNT_Canadian

yes, so long as it's Fly Baxter and not Black Baxter

Why? ..... and why not both?

06-14-2011, 11:59 PM	#1
TMNT_2010 Thug Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 73	Poor Baxter Stockman When I used to watch the show as a kid I always looked forward to the next episode with Baxter Stockman since I kept hoping he would turn back into a human at some point. When he first appeared he was just a regular guy with a good idea who wanted to help people get rid of rats. Then Shredder used him, mostly by bullying him around and verbally abusing him and he started going a bit nuts. Throw in a mutation into a fly and he finally snaps. It always just seemed like if he turned back into a human maybe he could go back to being a normal guy. Instead he's stuck as a fly forever. Anybody else felt sorry for Poor Baxter Stockman? And didn't the turtles basically steal his car and his things to make the turtle van?

06-15-2011, 12:04 AM	#3
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Count me in. He was a tragic villain, seduced by evil. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-15-2011, 12:10 AM	#4
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	In both universes, Baxter was a pretty pitiable character. I kinda hoped he'd be restored to a human in the FW series, he got the shaft, not just from Shredder and Krang, but the Turtles treated him very badly. 4Kids Baxter got a bit of a happy ending, working with President Bishop in the future. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

06-15-2011, 12:40 AM	#8
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Yeah I would have liked that too. Archie did some cool stuff with the characters it used. I don't know Baxter was better off left in limbo. His mind was degenerating. Every time he showed up he was more fly like. He was dangerous with the right person telling him what to do. If I remember though his computer buddy wasn't much but a circuit board by the end of his last encounter with the turtles. Unless he was like Brainiac I'd say he didn't last long. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

06-15-2011, 01:34 AM	#11
ChetTurtle Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: West Heidelberg, Melbourne, Australia Posts: 127	One of the few traditions kept in all tmnt universes (sans movies and NM) if they keep Stockman for the Nick show, another cyborg/mutant would be nice. Now that I think about it, Stockman in a movie could be very interesting __________________ "Oh man! I slept on my hand and it go numb and hit my face and I thought some body slapped me! Don't ya hate that?"-Michaelangelo, The Shredder Strikes Back Part 1

06-15-2011, 12:02 AM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	Fun Fact: Baxter's last appearance in the original cartoon has him trapped in limbo between dimensional barriers again. Since the show ended, we have no clue if Baxter ever got back to Earth or was lost in dimensional limbo forever.

06-15-2011, 12:31 AM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	And in the comics, Donatello blasts Baxter to bits because he's sick of him hanging on his wall.

06-15-2011, 12:35 AM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	Its too bad Baxter never returns in the Archie series after the episode adaptions. Would have been interesting to see fly-Baxter in Archie, oh well.

06-15-2011, 12:43 AM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	Yeah. I am kinda hoping the Nick version mutates him into a fly again, only so we can see another take of him like that. Seems like we'll see human baxter using robots/cyborg stuff in the beginning of the Nick show, but I hope they mutate him later on.

06-15-2011, 01:36 AM	#12
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Hmm....I wonder if we could have Baxter as the main villain in the next movie. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

06-15-2011, 05:45 AM	#15
plasticturtle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 224	Wouldn't being trapped in dimensional limbo pretty much be a death sentence? I can't imagine there was anything like food and water there. Pretty soon he'll either starve, die of thirst or some combination of the two. I guess it's just Baxter's lot in life to be crapped on.

06-15-2011, 07:16 AM	#17
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	For the OT, I really really felt sorry for Baxter and the treatment he received from Krang and Shredder wasn't deserved at all and still don't understand why they treated him like crap to the extent that they did. Even when in fly form, I felt sorry for him, because of his intelligence leaving him having been turned into a fly. As for Mirage Baxter, I didn't feel as sorry for him and I guess it's because he did all of his actions on his own, unless I missed something.