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Old 06-19-2011, 05:21 AM   #721
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Vol. 1 #17 has Mikey writing. Pretty sure there are other issues from the Mirage runs which have him writing.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:24 AM   #722
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Mainly two places. In TMNT #1, Splinter says that Saki killed Yoshi "nearly 15 years ago" and he was left to wander the streets where he first found the baby turtles. But with the qualifier of "nearly", I'll concede that it isn't a concrete 15.

AC Farley seemed to be going by the same logic when he wrote "15 Years Later" (title says it all), as well.

I understand that "nearly" could mean 13 or 14, but I err on the side of closer to 15 since we don't know precisely how much time Splinter spent wandering the streets and 15 is the closest thing to a solid number we've got.
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All good points, but if they're fifteen in 1985, then they'd have to be 18 in RTNY since it's specifically stated to be 1988. And we know they don't turn eighteen untill the first issue of Volume 3, and I'm pretty sure it's been said that they turn 17 during City At War.

Just to give you a reference: They turn 18 at the begining of Volume 3, 17 sometime during City At War, 16 sometime before Return to New York, 15 sometime after the exile to Northampton, 14 sometime before Silent Partner, 13 sometime before Issue #1, 12 sometime before Not Forgotten.

Obviously, I used your timeline when figuring that up. Give it a peek with those ages in mind using mid-Fall as their birth month, it all adds up.
Furthermore, there's no mention of "fifteen years ago" in issue #1. Splinter says his story begins "some twenty years ago", and he's been training them for "thirteen years".
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:29 AM   #723
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In what universes is Mikey a writer? Was that just Image? my memory is fuzzy
He was writing in issue 17 of Volume 1, (I believe that's the one he was writing himself in a Japanese story, Jim Lawson did that issue), and he wrote again in the Image series.

I'm pretty sure we saw Michaelangelo writing in the Cyber-Turtles story of Archie as well.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:04 PM   #724
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He was writing in issue 17 of Volume 1, (I believe that's the one he was writing himself in a Japanese story, Jim Lawson did that issue)
You're right about it being issue 17, but it was written by Eastman and Talbot, art by Talbot.

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It's pretty much one massive feudal Japan setting, with Michelangelo searching for his brothers. The last page is revealed to be Mikey writing the story all along, and asking Klunk if it sounds corny or not.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:24 PM   #725
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Furthermore, there's no mention of "fifteen years ago" in issue #1. Splinter says his story begins "some twenty years ago", and he's been training them for "thirteen years".
During Splinter's origin tale, he says, "On a night nearly fifteen years ago, Saki finally made his move"; and when the Turtles confront Shredder, he says to himself, "I killed Yoshi fifteen years ago!"
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:19 PM   #726
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During Splinter's origin tale, he says, "On a night nearly fifteen years ago, Saki finally made his move"; and when the Turtles confront Shredder, he says to himself, "I killed Yoshi fifteen years ago!"
Yep! That's what I was referring to.
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:07 PM   #727
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:40 PM   #728
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They're meant to be equal, so if a shop ordered 20 copies, they should receive 5 of each turtle.
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From the man himself.
Thanks! Must have missed that.
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Old 06-19-2011, 10:19 PM   #729
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During Splinter's origin tale, he says, "On a night nearly fifteen years ago, Saki finally made his move"; and when the Turtles confront Shredder, he says to himself, "I killed Yoshi fifteen years ago!"
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Yep! That's what I was referring to.
Mmmk, but you're still ignoring my other evidence. If they're fifteen in issue #1, then they have to be 18 in RTNY, 19 by the end of CaW and 20 at the begining of Image. And we all know that's not true.

I know Andrew agrees with me, just do the math based off his time-tags in Image #24. If you subtract right, it all comes out to the Turtles being 13 when they first battle Shredder.

Either way it's literally impossible for them to be fifteen in the first issue. They can't even be fourteen. Just under two years passes between #11 and #21, then there's over a year between #1 and #10. Once more sixteen minus 3 is thirteen.

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Old 06-21-2011, 04:58 AM   #730
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Two questions-

1. What exactly are the contents of Plastron Cafe? Is it all turtle stuff similar to Turtle soup? Non-turtle stuff? Mixed bag?
Any notable mirage folks in it? That kinda thing. Ok, so that's like 5 questions, whatever.

2. What specific issues from any/all volumes deal with Casey's younger days, background, & so forth? His pre-turtle era.
I could sort through but that'd take ages.
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:19 AM   #731
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I think Mirage's website can help with your first question. :p

http://www.miragelicensing.com/comic...astron/01.html
http://www.miragelicensing.com/comic...astron/02.html
http://www.miragelicensing.com/comic...astron/03.html
http://www.miragelicensing.com/comic...astron/04.html

They're cool issues.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:46 PM   #732
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Two questions-

1. What exactly are the contents of Plastron Cafe? Is it all turtle stuff similar to Turtle soup? Non-turtle stuff? Mixed bag?
Any notable mirage folks in it? That kinda thing. Ok, so that's like 5 questions, whatever.

2. What specific issues from any/all volumes deal with Casey's younger days, background, & so forth? His pre-turtle era.
I could sort through but that'd take ages.
Very little turtle content, but for a guy like you I'd recommend it just because it's almost all stuff from the main Mirage guys.

Aaaand, I know Tales 37 does, but it ends up being B.S. Then Tristan's "Hun" issue, and maybe a few off-hand comments here and there, but never any full-on stories.
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Old 06-24-2011, 05:42 PM   #733
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"Bottoming Out" -- The first story in ShellShock. Both Kevin and Jim are credited for art... I am trying to figure out who did pencils. Some panels seem like they could be Kevin, other panels look like Jim. Maybe they did double duty? Anybody know?

I've got e-mails out to both of them, but I'm impatient

Edit: Kevin got back to me -- the whole this is Jim.

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:07 PM   #734
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Did Kevin at least do any layouting for it?
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:24 PM   #735
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i have a couple questions because i have never got to ever see the real old original turtles comics

1 in the original series was it dark and did splinter really die and if so did the turtles get revenge?
2. is the turtles prime in the tmnt forever movie that dark series or is the first print of the turtles comic what they were referring too?
3. is there a way for me to read the full original story of the turtles from begining to up to date if its still being writtin i ask cause i cant see and i have never heard of braile aditions odviously but i want to read all the original stories, i guess thats a question statement, sorry
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Old 06-25-2011, 07:00 PM   #736
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i have a couple questions because i have never got to ever see the real old original turtles comics

1 in the original series was it dark and did splinter really die and if so did the turtles get revenge?
2. is the turtles prime in the tmnt forever movie that dark series or is the first print of the turtles comic what they were referring too?
3. is there a way for me to read the full original story of the turtles from begining to up to date if its still being writtin i ask cause i cant see and i have never heard of braille aditions odviously but i want to read all the original stories, i guess thats a question statement, sorry
1. It was relatively dark, but there were plenty of lighthearted stories too. Splinter did die, but not until way later. No revenge needed as it was old age that killed him.

2. Turtles prime is based on the first issue of the TMNT (which is the "dark" series you ask of).

3. If you're asking if we know of any braille versions, I myself can't help you with that one. Sorry. That will be difficult.
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thank you so much.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:21 AM   #738
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Did Kevin at least do any layouting for it?
He did inks.
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Old 06-26-2011, 12:11 PM   #739
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So, are the comics available in Kindle yet? I've got so much Ninja Turtle, LOTR, Starwars, Harry Potter and Transformers memorabilia that I just don't need to clutter my house any more than it already is.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:52 PM   #740
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You can find the entire library in scans. I have most of them saved, but I also own the actual books too, but even if I didn't I would recommend them because it can help lead folks to seek out the old books if they like the material.
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