"Comic relief"?

Fugitoid Jones · 09-08-2011, 12:29 PM

I just want to say that I think it's weird when people refer to characters from the Fred Wolf series as "comic relief". Comic relief is a term used to describe a character that is supposed to provide humor in an otherwise serious story or series. Who the hell watched the OT and thaught "Man, I hope I laugh soon, this episode is really very serious." Saying someone from the OT was comic relief is like watching Schindler's List and saying Liam Neeson was the striaght man.

So instead of saying "Bebop and Rocksteady were mostly just comic relief" or "Shredder in the OT was a joke, he was just comic relief", why don't we say that they played up the comedic aspects of them or that they weren't threatening.

*CyberCubed* · 09-08-2011, 01:24 PM

The whole show was basically a comedy disguised as an action cartoon. It toed the line between smart and stupid, which is why it was so entertaining.

You can say every single character on the show was comic relief, the Turtles, the Channel 6 news crew, Shredder and co, even those one-shot mad scientists...

*pannoni1* · 09-08-2011, 05:27 PM

Still, but it was still more notable than other characters. I'm making a scale in terms of comic relief based upon all the characters, with a 1 indicated "most comic relief" and 10 indicated "most serious".

Leonardo: 8
Donatello: 6
Raphael: 4 (breaking that 4th wall so many times, but at times he can really be serious and tough.)
Michelangelo: 2
Splinter: 9
April: 6
Casey Jones: 5
Shredder: 6
Krang: 8
Rocksteady & Bebop: 1
Irma & Vernon: 3
Neutrinos: 2
Burne: 7
Baxter Stockman: 7
Rat King: 8
Dregg: 10

Still, Master Splinter almost never told a joke in the whole OT; it was all about how to be a good student. Krang, while serious overall, did make a couple jokes occassionally. But Mike, R&B, and Irma & Vernon really set the tone. It does show which characters are most comical and can be a good element to set the characters apart.

*Donnie* · 09-08-2011, 05:53 PM

Krang an 8? He was hilarious.

*ToTheNines* · 09-08-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

I just want to say that I think it's weird when people refer to characters from the Fred Wolf series as "comic relief". Comic relief is a term used to describe a character that is supposed to provide humor in an otherwise serious story or series. Who the hell watched the OT and thaught "Man, I hope I laugh soon, this episode is really very serious." Saying someone from the OT was comic relief is like watching Schindler's List and saying Liam Neeson was the striaght man.

I see what you're saying, but just look at Shredder in every other corner of the multiverse.

James Avery's Shredder is comic relief when compared to Scottie Ray's or David Mccharen's Shredder.

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

Still, Master Splinter never told a joke in the whole OT; it was all about how to be a good student.

False!

He screamed "Sacagawea" as a battle cry once, that was hilarious. He also broke the fourth-wall on occasion, and is the only ninja on Earth who can preform the Cur-lee Maneuver

*Coola Yagami* · 09-08-2011, 10:14 PM

Splinter was the 'serious-relief' in a comedy show.

*Sage Ninja* · 09-08-2011, 10:20 PM

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But Mike, R&B, and Irma & Vernon really set the tone.

uh, no. I would give that roll mostly to Raphael not Mike. But then R&B and Vernon were supposed to be the losers of the show, thats what there humor mostly based of. Kind of like Zoidberg from futurama.

Irma is saved from this type of humor because she genuanly makes witty and clever remarks inspite of having some humor done at her expense with being always searching for a boyfriend. The same goes for mike, and he has the added status of being the one of the title characters.

TMNT_2010 · 09-09-2011, 12:37 AM

Krang should definitely be a lower number. He was serious in the first 2 seasons but after that he became a very funny character.

*Andrew NDB* · 09-09-2011, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

I just want to say that I think it's weird when people refer to characters from the Fred Wolf series as "comic relief".

I agree it's weird that's every character in a show is comic relief... and yet it's true.

Cryomancer · 09-09-2011, 02:38 AM

The show has "action relief" from time to time. The comedy is it's full time job.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-09-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT

Krang an 8? He was hilarious.

Taking a shower in your android body, while wearing a cap and towel for modesty? EPIC comedic gold!

EDIT:

BTW, everytime I see the title of this thread, I think it's about this special Fleetway comic.

Nelson · 09-10-2011, 03:07 PM

It seems as if Fugitoid Jones' post wasn't very clear to some of you...

All the characters in the original series were humorous, and because of that, none of them can be classified as a comic relief character.

*Donnie* · 09-10-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nelson

It seems as if Fugitoid Jones' post wasn't very clear to some of you...

All the characters in the original series were humorous, and because of that, none of them can be classified as a comic relief character.

We were referring to the "list" compiled by pann, not Fugitoid's.

*XERO* · 09-10-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

Still, Master Splinter almost never told a joke in the whole OT; it was all about how to be a good student.

That probably was the joke.

09-08-2011, 12:29 PM	#1
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	"Comic relief"? I just want to say that I think it's weird when people refer to characters from the Fred Wolf series as "comic relief". Comic relief is a term used to describe a character that is supposed to provide humor in an otherwise serious story or series. Who the hell watched the OT and thaught "Man, I hope I laugh soon, this episode is really very serious." Saying someone from the OT was comic relief is like watching Schindler's List and saying Liam Neeson was the striaght man. So instead of saying "Bebop and Rocksteady were mostly just comic relief" or "Shredder in the OT was a joke, he was just comic relief", why don't we say that they played up the comedic aspects of them or that they weren't threatening. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

09-08-2011, 05:27 PM	#3
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	Still, but it was still more notable than other characters. I'm making a scale in terms of comic relief based upon all the characters, with a 1 indicated "most comic relief" and 10 indicated "most serious". Leonardo: 8 Donatello: 6 Raphael: 4 (breaking that 4th wall so many times, but at times he can really be serious and tough.) Michelangelo: 2 Splinter: 9 April: 6 Casey Jones: 5 Shredder: 6 Krang: 8 Rocksteady & Bebop: 1 Irma & Vernon: 3 Neutrinos: 2 Burne: 7 Baxter Stockman: 7 Rat King: 8 Dregg: 10 Still, Master Splinter almost never told a joke in the whole OT; it was all about how to be a good student. Krang, while serious overall, did make a couple jokes occassionally. But Mike, R&B, and Irma & Vernon really set the tone. It does show which characters are most comical and can be a good element to set the characters apart. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power! Last edited by pannoni1; 09-09-2011 at 08:43 AM.

09-08-2011, 10:14 PM	#6
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,710	Splinter was the 'serious-relief' in a comedy show. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

09-09-2011, 12:37 AM	#8
TMNT_2010 Thug Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 73	Krang Krang should definitely be a lower number. He was serious in the first 2 seasons but after that he became a very funny character.

09-09-2011, 02:38 AM	#10
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	The show has "action relief" from time to time. The comedy is it's full time job. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

09-08-2011, 01:24 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	The whole show was basically a comedy disguised as an action cartoon. It toed the line between smart and stupid, which is why it was so entertaining. You can say every single character on the show was comic relief, the Turtles, the Channel 6 news crew, Shredder and co, even those one-shot mad scientists...

09-08-2011, 05:53 PM	#4
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	Krang an 8? He was hilarious.

09-10-2011, 03:07 PM	#12
Nelson Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 673	It seems as if Fugitoid Jones' post wasn't very clear to some of you... All the characters in the original series were humorous, and because of that, none of them can be classified as a comic relief character.