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~~Leo656~~ · 07-24-2011, 06:27 AM

Talk about limping across the finish line...

It wasn't supposed to end this way, that's what pisses me off. It seemed like everything they'd ever done was building, coming together, finally offering payoffs to readers who had stuck with them since Crisis1, and building towards a brand new future... it really seems like a sudden abortion, not the organic progression of how things were supposed to go.

I've heard all the Superman books since New Krypton ended have been crummy, so maybe I haven't been missing much. For me that'll probably be the "last story" of the Superman I grew up with. Sigh.

*ZariusTwo* · 07-25-2011, 03:42 PM

Now I'm hearing The Flash's marraige is going south. Bollocks.

*Slap-Happy* · 07-25-2011, 06:24 PM

All this sh*t I'm hearIng about the reboot makes me want to say three words.

Make. Mine. Marvel.

*ZariusTwo* · 07-26-2011, 10:21 AM

I'll steer clear of both of them thanks, Marvel are just as bad, the last time I gave them any money was with the last issue of Spider-Girl

*Slap-Happy* · 07-26-2011, 03:06 PM

One good thing about the reboot is that it's a jumping on point. IMO the DC books are very hard to jump into without knowing a lot of the continuity behind them.

*Spitfire* · 07-26-2011, 08:40 PM

Marvel created jumping on points too without rebooting completely. What makes me mad is Batman Beyond finally got a good comic series and now after the reboot it's no longer being published. It didn't even make it to 10 issues.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-26-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer

One good thing about the reboot is that it's a jumping on point.

A pretty good jumping off point too.

*Brodie* · 07-27-2011, 05:36 PM

So, I got a free promo "#1" issue, with previews of all the new 52...And I had been noting this as a rebooted continuity, right? But when I got to the Green Lantern/corps/red lantern/etc section, Johns is quoted as saying that it follows almost directly after everything he's done since 'Rebirth.' So, are some of these in present continuity and others aren't? What the ****?

azrael · 07-28-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Marvel created jumping on points too without rebooting completely. What makes me mad is Batman Beyond finally got a good comic series and now after the reboot it's no longer being published. It didn't even make it to 10 issues.

Its coming back with a new number 1

*Andrew NDB* · 07-29-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

So, I got a free promo "#1" issue, with previews of all the new 52...And I had been noting this as a rebooted continuity, right? But when I got to the Green Lantern/corps/red lantern/etc section, Johns is quoted as saying that it follows almost directly after everything he's done since 'Rebirth.' So, are some of these in present continuity and others aren't? What the ****?

Very little is being changed except for marriages. Some of the #1s take place 5 years ago, but all of them eventually catch back up to the present within a few issues.

*Galactus* · 07-29-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

It wasn't supposed to end this way, that's what pisses me off. It seemed like everything they'd ever done was building, coming together, finally offering payoffs to readers who had stuck with them since Crisis1, and building towards a brand new future... it really seems like a sudden abortion, not the organic progression of how things were supposed to go.

Hardly anything in the DC universe has progessed organicaly in years. You've had two different canon origins for Superman within a handful of years. Important characters, elements and history taken out or inserted into continuity in the aftermaths of every big event. It's completely haphazard. This is no different except every one gets a shiny new #1 and costume with seams.

I can't see it coming off any better. Even if they get Grant Morrisson to stick to a solid new history with Superman eventualy some high profile writer on another title is going to want to use a story element which is no longer in continuity by DC and either use whatever upcoming event to precipitate it's reinsertion or use said event to explain how it's already happened.

All this being said it's a great thing to attract new readers to titles they might not otherwise try and new readers in general. Particularly if they can impress us early on. All that and Barbara Gordon finaly gets the use of her legs back.

azrael · 07-31-2011, 08:57 AM

I dont see where "new" readers are coming from. I see no advertising in the outside world other than places that are for comics.

As for barbara being batgirl .. meh

Barbara walking I am all for I just dont know why Oracle cant be a mobile vigilante, that is something that would be awesome to see.

*Galactus* · 07-31-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael

I dont see where "new" readers are coming from. I see no advertising in the outside world other than places that are for comics.

They're gonna be advertising the comics relaunch in movie theaters.

*ZariusTwo* · 07-31-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

All this being said it's a great thing to attract new readers to titles they might not otherwise try and new readers in general. Particularly if they can impress us early on. All that and Barbara Gordon finaly gets the use of her legs back.

Which is fairly insulting to people who cannot regain mobility of their legs, and it's also an affront to her legacy as Oracle.

~~Leo656~~ · 09-07-2011, 03:19 AM

Anybody pick any of the new books up yet? I'm heading in tomorrow to pick up Action #1 and was wondering if anyone had seen Justice League yet...

*Galactus* · 09-07-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Which is fairly insulting to people who cannot regain mobility of their legs

It's a thorny issue true but I've always been in the camp that given the world she inhabits and the resources she has it's stupid that Barbara would stay in a wheel chair. The idea that Barbara chooses to remain in a wheel chair is fairly insulting, I don't think it's a stretch to say that most disabled people would choose to regain their mobilty if they had the opportunity.

Not to mention a male character of her status would have regained their mobilty long ago. Damian Wayne is a fan favourite with those that read Batman & Robin but not as known as Barbara, he suffered a similar injuries and was cured in a few issues.

If it's a case of representation then yes something is being lost here although DC are apparently launching a new title around a disabled character and given it's premise they'll give it some leniancy with sales and give it a fair amount of time to catch on.

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it's also an affront to her legacy as Oracle.

I don't see how. Someone like Gail Simone isn't going to forget or diminish what the character had achieved as Oracle and just because some giod work was done with the character as Oracle shouldn't mean that we have to stick with that mode forever.

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Anybody pick any of the new books up yet? I'm heading in tomorrow to pick up Action #1 and was wondering if anyone had seen Justice League yet...

Justice League came out prior to Action Comics. It's....okay. I much preferred Action Comics, chronologicaly and in terms of quality I feel that would have been a better starting point for the new DC universe.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-09-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

I don't see how. Someone like Gail Simone isn't going to forget or diminish what the character had achieved as Oracle

Guess again. I've got a feeling a lot ofh her history as Oracle has been erased given what I've read of her first issue.

Fugitoid Jones · 09-12-2011, 03:13 AM

Action Comics #1 was actually really good, and Grant Morrison is usually hit or miss with me. Justice League, for what it was, was entertaining.

Suine Hallock · 10-06-2011, 10:32 AM

Well, the month of new #1s is over. Of the titles I tried, I'm only sticking with 3.

I was looking to pare down on my comic bill anyway, but always have a hard time deciding what has to get the boot. DC really helped make the decision for me by giving me a good number of jumping-off points, as I tend to have an easier time not starting than stopping.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 10-08-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer

Make. Mine. Marvel.

I still haven't gotten over One More Day. X-Men hasn't been good in years. No thanks.

I think most of the new 52 were pretty good.

Batgirl was better than I expected. From a marketing standpoint I understand why they made the decision to bring back Barbara Gordon as Batgirl. Considering this is the same company that brought back Barry Allen and Hal Jordan from the dead, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Hopefully Gail Simone keeps up the good work from the first issue.

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Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	So, I got a free promo "#1" issue, with previews of all the new 52...And I had been noting this as a rebooted continuity, right? But when I got to the Green Lantern/corps/red lantern/etc section, Johns is quoted as saying that it follows almost directly after everything he's done since 'Rebirth.' So, are some of these in present continuity and others aren't? What the ****? __________________ Stupendous Monster

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azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	I dont see where "new" readers are coming from. I see no advertising in the outside world other than places that are for comics. As for barbara being batgirl .. meh Barbara walking I am all for I just dont know why Oracle cant be a mobile vigilante, that is something that would be awesome to see. __________________ Creator of The Death Poppets

07-24-2011, 06:27 AM	#41
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Talk about limping across the finish line... It wasn't supposed to end this way, that's what pisses me off. It seemed like everything they'd ever done was building, coming together, finally offering payoffs to readers who had stuck with them since Crisis1, and building towards a brand new future... it really seems like a sudden abortion, not the organic progression of how things were supposed to go. I've heard all the Superman books since New Krypton ended have been crummy, so maybe I haven't been missing much. For me that'll probably be the "last story" of the Superman I grew up with. Sigh.

07-25-2011, 06:24 PM	#43
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	All this sh*t I'm hearIng about the reboot makes me want to say three words. Make. Mine. Marvel.

07-26-2011, 03:06 PM	#45
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	One good thing about the reboot is that it's a jumping on point. IMO the DC books are very hard to jump into without knowing a lot of the continuity behind them.

09-07-2011, 03:19 AM	#55
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Anybody pick any of the new books up yet? I'm heading in tomorrow to pick up Action #1 and was wondering if anyone had seen Justice League yet...

09-12-2011, 03:13 AM	#58
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	Action Comics #1 was actually really good, and Grant Morrison is usually hit or miss with me. Justice League, for what it was, was entertaining. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

10-06-2011, 10:32 AM	#59
Suine Hallock Mouser Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 9	Well, the month of new #1s is over. Of the titles I tried, I'm only sticking with 3. I was looking to pare down on my comic bill anyway, but always have a hard time deciding what has to get the boot. DC really helped make the decision for me by giving me a good number of jumping-off points, as I tend to have an easier time not starting than stopping.