Baxter Stockman as a Fly or a Cyborg?

[Andrew NDB]

What about a compromise? He becomes a cyborg, but his cyborg body has the characteristics of a big humanoid fly? (multiple appendages, wings, and multi-lens "eyeballs")

Originally Posted by Toby Barrett

I'd actually like a series where nothing like mutaliation or mutation happens to Stockman, myself.

I think I would have to agree with you for once. Especially in IDW.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

What about a compromise? He becomes a cyborg, but his cyborg body has the characteristics of a big humanoid fly? (multiple appendages, wings, and multi-lens "eyeballs")



I think I would have to agree with you for once. Especially in IDW.

The cyborg with fly like armor/robot body could work. With Baxter being under Krang here it makes me think that Baxter xan not be on his own but has to be a greater threat's underling by force. That and he can't seem to be human from his first to his last appearance. Its a shame.

[Zage]

Originally Posted by NameGoesHere1066

not really... Anyone care to do screen cap comparison to support this?

I prefere Stockman as a human. In both the old and new shows I thought Baxter was a better character before all the shizell happened to him.

Close enough, imho.

[Coola Yagami]

Hopefully Baxter breaks out of the underling role and wreaks revenge upon the Turtles AND Krang/Shredder.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Hopefully Baxter breaks out of the underling role and wreaks revenge upon the Turtles AND Krang/Shredder.

(sigh) Again?

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think I would have to agree with you for once. Especially in IDW.

Ditto. That'd be a change I'd warmly welcome.

[Coola Yagami]

Well, unfortunately, he's already working for someone (General Krang) from the get-go instead of being a stand-alone villian... hopefully he breaks free from that. It seems only the Mirage comics had Baxter be his own man.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

OK... but I mean, no payoff for specifically making him a fly and not... say, a moose or a hippo or something equally random?

A fly isn't as random as a moose or a hippo.

You've already mentioned the obvious reference to The Fly.

Plus a lot of people get creeped out by insects, and flies are pests, making a mutant fly a good choice for an antagonist.

I'd prefer mutant fly over cyborg, because someone becoming a cyborg feels more overdone. Someone becoming a fly monster obviously isn't original either, but I like the nod to The Fly. It's something for the adults who had to deal with Ninja Turtles being on TV all the time.

For the current comics, I'd say keep him human. There are going to be plenty of mutants running around anyway. Bebop and Rocksteady are more well known, so let the new Baxter Stockman get established as a mad scientist and not another mutant.

[Plasticplayhouse]

I like both renditions. I liked the fly in the cartoon and the cyborg in the comics. I don't think I'd like a cyborg fly though.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

He should have stayed human all the way. It's stupid to have him walking around as a fly, and he went through so many cyborg incarnations you can just guess what the next version will be (and probably be correct).

[Fugitoid Jones]

This time he should get turned into a stork, so he can be renamed "Baxter STORKman"! HAW!!!

[pannoni1]

At least as a human, he was the most threatening to the turtles in any form compared to his other forms. In the coming out of their shells tour, we just see human Baxter. But at least as a fly, he can move quickly and his alien computer can help him get proper support. Says a lot about the acceptance of his fly form.

It's just that Baxter transformed in so many different forms in the 4kids era its tough to pick out a distinctive form. I find it more of a grower of a choice; it's less memorable but builds more depth to the character.

[MikeandRaph87]

We don't know the direction IDW will take Baxter Stockman yet but the teaser image makes it look like Baxter might get "punished" by Krang in #7. It may be leading to him taking anothe form there too. With Baxter transforming each time it might actually be interesting to see what he can do a a threat as normal human. We can have the cartoon go one route and the comic go another.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

WHy did the writers suddenly made him a fly? Did they dislike him and tried to write him out of the series (at least as a main character)?

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by J 1982

WHy did the writers suddenly made him a fly? Did they dislike him and tried to write him out of the series (at least as a main character)?

The Fly remake had only come out a few years before. They clearly wanted to reference that movie, while adding another mutant that would make a gross toy for kids. Let's face it, a toy mutant fly stands out more than a generic mad scientist.

[oldmanwinters]

I'd like to see Baxter as a fly mutant (simply because the visual is so amazing), but I'd like him to retain his scientific curiosity as opposed to just becoming an absent-minded schizophrenic. After Baxter's mutation episode in "Enter the Fly," he generally wasn't as great of a mental threat to the TMNT by himself.

I have this visual image in my mind of a mutated, savage-looked Fly in a tattered-and-torn scientist's lab-coat tinkering with chemicals, test tubes, and Bunsen burners while surrounded by a handfull of "faithful" mousers. I think he could really be a great villain if he was both brilliant and a hideous mutant bug.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

The Fly remake had only come out a few years before. They clearly wanted to reference that movie, while adding another mutant that would make a gross toy for kids. Let's face it, a toy mutant fly stands out more than a generic mad scientist.

But why they have him sent to Dimension X so often? The episode he was transformed him to change from a main character to a bi-character.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by J 1982

But why they have him sent to Dimension X so often? The episode he was transformed him to change from a main character to a bi-character.

Now that I can't explain. I agree that he could have been a main part of their rogues gallery, instead of them fighting Shredder every single time.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Now that I can't explain. I agree that he could have been a main part of their rogues gallery, instead of them fighting Shredder every single time.

Yeah, I think we can make an own thread of that.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

As astounding as it may sound, I found Baxter Stockman less annoying as a fly. Almost likeable in fact.