Power Rangers - the appreciation and discussion thread

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

I saw an interview with Austin St. John about that. He said the throw away mentioning line by Zordon was added in in post-production because it was decided that he would left after it was filmed but before it aired. Production thought it would just go ahead and name Tommy the leader thus why no quarrel with Jason,who had a limited role startinga phase out a couple of episodes after that.

That explains things as far as behind the scenes reasons, but it still seems strange in the context of the show. I don't see why they couldn't wait to "promote" Tommy until the new Rangers came. That way they could reason that Tommy would be leader, given that he was more experienced than the new Rangers.

They probably figured most kids wouldn't care, because who cares when there's explosions and giant robots! Well this kid cared.

Wow, the contract problem with Jason, Zack, and Trini become super obvious when you rewatch the show as an adult, and the three are nowhere to be seen. I guess I didn't think anything of it at the time, because I didn't realize they were going to be replaced in a couple of episodes. It's clear they were setting up Rocky, Adam, and Aisha to be new Rangers, but as a kid I was probably thinking either three totally new Rangers, or just temporary fill ins.

Haha, totally stock footage of Jason from season one. This stuff is really funny to look at in retrospect.

Reminds me of The Simpsons, when they try to finish the Radioactive Man movie without Milhouse.

"Are you ready, Fallout Boy?"

Footage of Fallout Boy sitting on the couch. "Yes".

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

That explains things as far as behind the scenes reasons, but it still seems strange in the context of the show. I don't see why they couldn't wait to "promote" Tommy until the new Rangers came. That way they could reason that Tommy would be leader, given that he was more experienced than the new Rangers.

They probably figured most kids wouldn't care, because who cares when there's explosions and giant robots! Well this kid cared.

Wow, the contract problem with Jason, Zack, and Trini become super obvious when you rewatch the show as an adult, and the three are nowhere to be seen. I guess I didn't think anything of it at the time, because I didn't realize they were going to be replaced in a couple of episodes. It's clear they were setting up Rocky, Adam, and Aisha to be new rangers, but as a kid I was probably thinking either three totally new Rangers, or just temporary fill ins.

Haha, totally stock footage of Jason from season one. This stuff is really funny to look at in retrospect.

Reminds me of The Simpsons, when they try to finish the Radioactive Man movie without Milhouse.

"Are you ready, Fallout Boy?"

Footage of Fallout Boy sitting on the couch. "Yes".

I actually knew Trini would be leaving the show from a quiz in a Disney Adventure magazine, but I didn't think Jason and Zack would be leaving along with her. The question stated that a ranger would be leaving in the second season, and the choices were either Tommy, Trini, Kimberly, or Billy. I thought it would be Tommy since his Green Ranger powers were supposed to run out, but the correct answer was Trini. It made sense in retrospect since Jason and Zack weren't among the four choices. I also knew beforehand that there would be a White Ranger, but it didn't occur to me that Tommy would switch to that color. I thought Tommy would stay on as the Green Ranger with powers recharged, and that there would later on be a White Ranger instead of a Yellow Ranger.

I also realized that Jason's voice started to sound strange around the time he'd be leaving and I didn't really think much of it either. Then when Rocky, Adam, and Aisha showed up, I put two and two together some time later and figured that they might be replacing Jason, Zack, and Trini.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Redmage1987

Spoiler:

I found this image today and didn't know if anyone here had seen it before. I thought it was pretty awesome though, so I figured I would share it, lol.

That was made by a member here, Dane.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/member.php?u=603

[MikeandRaph87]

I remember the Alpha's Christmas Special which had Tommy still as the Green Ranger alongside Billy and Kimberly. It mentioned that the others were STILL at the Peace Conference and showed the half of the team that went straight home sending a mesage were Rocky,Adam, and Aiesha. It made it sound like the Peace Conference was just an x episode strench not permament. Also, it seemed odd having Tommy in Green when he was the White Ranger when the Power Transfer happened.

The letting go of the cast couldn't have been too bad beyond, "your not apart of the SAG which is wh we hired you so no more $ for you and so you will be replaced". Breif bitter period and they were fine. Austin did come back in the brief role to prove that. I read that any of the five surviving cast will be more than happy to if its SAG sponsored if not their cards will be taken so they won't. Its a shame Saban won't allow the union banner to fly over its franchise.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

They probably figured most kids wouldn't care, because who cares when there's explosions and giant robots! Well this kid cared.

Same here. Really, the only replacement ranger that I liked was Adam. I thought Rocky was kind of goofy and Aisha I was sort of ambivalent about.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Logan

Same here. Really, the only replacement ranger that I liked was Adam. I thought Rocky was kind of goofy and Aisha I was sort of ambivalent about.

Of all of the replacements from the three of them through Adros, Adam would be my favorite,but I still liked Zack better.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

I remember the Alpha's Christmas Special which had Tommy still as the Green Ranger alongside Billy and Kimberly. It mentioned that the others were STILL at the Peace Conference and showed the half of the team that went straight home sending a message were Rocky, Adam, and Aisha. It made it sound like the Peace Conference was just an x episode stretch not permanent. Also, it seemed odd having Tommy in green when he was the White Ranger when the Power Transfer happened.

The letting go of the cast couldn't have been too bad beyond, "you're not apart of the SAG which is why we hired you so no more $ for you and so you will be replaced". Brief bitter period and they were fine. Austin did come back in the brief role to prove that. I read that any of the five surviving cast will be more than happy to if its SAG sponsored if not their cards will be taken so they won't. Its a shame Saban won't allow the union banner to fly over its franchise.

Alpha's Magical Christmas wasn't meant to fit in with the continuity of the show, I don't think. Also, you probably know why Tommy might have been wearing green in the "The Power Transfer" two-parter. They just recycled footage of them from an episode when he was still the Green Ranger. Well, IF that's the time you're even talking about.

Yes Austin St. John did come back to play Jason in Zeo, and even in the Turbo movie, and even came back for the "Forever Red" teamup although the show was under Disney's name that time. He even hosted a PR tribute special in 1999 along with Walter Jones, who also came back to voice a monster in Lost Galaxy, and voiced one of the generals in "Forever Red". They were even nice enough to dedicate a Time Force episode to the memory of the late Thuy Trang. I don't know if David Yost would return though, since he claims to have left the show on bad terms. He said in an interview that he just went AWOL in the middle of a day of filming after constantly coming under attack for the fact that he's gay, although a producer on the show claims that the guy was just becoming too difficult to work with and denies that anyone had insulted him on account of his orientation.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

Alpha's Magical Christmas wasn't meant to fit in with the continuity of the show, I don't think. Also, you probably know why Tommy might have been wearing green in the "The Power Transfer" two-parter. They just recycled footage of them from an episode when he was still the Green Ranger. Well, IF that's the time you're even talking about.

Wow, it does become obvious they were using doubles when one scene takes place at sundown off in the distance.

I'm wondering which episode that Command Center footage came from though before Power Transfer. If they got away with that, the Command Center scenes must be even more generic than I originally remembered.

[MikeandRaph87]

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Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

Alpha's Magical Christmas wasn't meant to fit in with the continuity of the show, I don't think. Also, you probably know why Tommy might have been wearing green in the "The Power Transfer" two-parter. They just recycled footage of them from an episode when he was still the Green Ranger. Well, IF that's the time you're even talking about.

Looking at the footage I think the power transfer episodes were taken from the last green ranger episode. Episode titles escape me.

Your probably right about the out of continuity but as a kid it did make me think that the half team switch over was temporary because of saying they were STILL at the Peace Conference like it wasn't supposed to be all that long.

Yes Austin St. John did come back to play Jason in Zeo, and even in the Turbo movie, and even came back for the "Forever Red" teamup although the show was under Disney's name that time. He even hosted a PR tribute special in 1999 along with Walter Jones, who also came back to voice a monster in Lost Galaxy, and voiced one of the generals in "Forever Red". They were even nice enough to dedicate a Time Force episode to the memory of the late Thuy Trang. I don't know if David Yost would return though, since he claims to have left the show on bad terms. He said in an interview that he just went AWOL in the middle of a day of filming after constantly coming under attack for the fact that he's gay, although a producer on the show claims that the guy was just becoming too difficult to work with and denies that anyone had insulted him on account of his orientation.

Yeah, I watched the interview. Its nice to see that his fellow cast members were good to him but the production team wasn't is a shame. If he was bi-sexual for a time or still is its his business. I read somewhere that David married his childhood sweethear Louis Crass in the November 2005. Was that false reporting or true? I hope for his happiness it is.

Being an orginial six fan still I occasionally look them up via web searches. Walter Jones said that he would be eager to if its under the SAG banner if not nothing would make him want to. I think its not at this point.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

I'm wondering which episode that Command Center footage came from though before Power Transfer. If they got away with that, the Command Center scenes must be even more generic than I originally remembered.

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

Looking at the footage I think the power transfer episodes were taken from the last Green Ranger episode. Episode titles escape me.

Yes, they were taken from both parts of the mini-series where Tommy lost his powers as the Green Ranger, and it was called "Green No More".

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

Yeah, I watched the interview. Its nice to see that his fellow cast members were good to him but the production team wasn't is a shame. If he was bi-sexual for a time or still is its his business. I read somewhere that David married his childhood sweetheart Louis Crass in the November 2005. Was that false reporting or true? I hope for his happiness it is.

That's the first time I ever saw anything about David Yost marrying a partner, so I can't confirm for you whether or not that it's true.

[MikeandRaph87]

That's the first time I ever saw anything about David Yost marrying a partner, so I can't confirm for you whether or not that it's true.

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I assumed it was a lady he married since the term sweetheart was used. I was doing a "Where Are They Now" search two years ago and thought I would see if any of the five of them married or if Thuy was at the time of her passing.I only found a yahoo! answers thing with an expired link as a citation saying so.http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1153005AA5MDjg With only that to go on I wasn't completely sure. Just hoping for old childhood heroes to have found the one. The others did expect Austin I believe and Thuy didn't by the time shel eft us.

[ZariusTwo]

So right now there's a big argument going on in the fandom over which Sentai series is going to be adapted for the big anniversary in 2013. Goseiger (the series that follows Shinkenger, which is what Samurai is based off of) or Sentai's own recent anniversary series Gokaiger. Saban Brands delayed production of the sereis until late 2012 for some reason, and the recent hiring of Amit Bhumic is leading people to think there will be an attempt at a Gokaiger adaptation using elements of Amit's proposed "Power Rangers Hexagon" concept (basicly a "Power Rangers Cival War")

Personally, I don't beleive they'll try to do "Hexagon", it'd be too expensive for one thing, plus think of the nightmare it would trying to track down some of the actors. This certaingly isnt the days of L.A in 2002.

[Hero]

As much as I'd prefer Gokaiger (I thought Goseiger was rubbish), Goseiger would be much more straightforward.

The trouble with adapting Gokaiger, is somehow explaining the pre-Zyuranger teams that appear, not to mention that the constant Ranger vs Ranger battles become visually noisy and stale. Hexagon sounds like a great idea, but will the Ranger vs Ranger stuff become sterile much like it did with Gokaiger. The novelty had ran out quickly, but the revisit of past characters is pleasing.

Saban etc won't need to track down everybody. Gokaiger on and off have a handpicked 'powerless' character from a past group (or basically who they can get ahold of) who guides or challenges the Gokaiger team on their current mission.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Man I want more PR added to Netflix! I've watched all of MMPR and Alien Rangers, and have just started Zeo, but I want more

[sdp]

Originally Posted by Hero

The trouble with adapting Gokaiger, is somehow explaining the pre-Zyuranger teams that appear,

I don't understand this, to the target audience any ranger team that is more than 4 years old is new to them and that is already being hopeful, they probably don't know who half the post-zyu teams even are. Calling the pre-zyu ranger teams from other planets/dimensions/other parts of the earth is an explanation that takes 4 seconds and leaves no questions for older fans or newer fans.

This whole two seasons per year of 20 episodes is crap, hopefully after Samurai they'll revert back to one team per year or after the Nick contract expires they take the show elsewhere where they can get one season per year and not Nicks 20 per season, imagine how ahead Sentai is going to be to PRs in just 5 years when compared to Sentai.

I think Goseiger would work as a great anniversary season, it has the original colors, mouthpieces and similar animal zords, since they are angels they could easily change the plot to something more akin to MMPR, make a "green ranger" for the team, give him one of the auxiliary zords and lose his powers etc. After it they can adapt gokaiger, I think that works more as a 20th anniversary than gokaiger really.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

Yes, they were taken from both parts of the mini-series where Tommy lost his powers as the Green Ranger, and it was called "Green No More".

Now I want to watch both back to back. It's funny all the stuff they got away with, because kids aren't observant enough or really care as long as they see giant robots.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by Hero

The trouble with adapting Gokaiger, is somehow explaining the pre-Zyuranger teams that appear, not to mention that the constant Ranger vs Ranger battles become visually noisy and stale. Hexagon sounds like a great idea, but will the Ranger vs Ranger stuff became sterile much like it did with Gokaiger. The novelty had ran out quickly, but the revisit of past characters is pleasing.

They don't even have to include any pre-Zyuranger teams. In fact, there was something about how Toei may have shot a version of the Legend War scene from Gokaiger to be used in PR that leaves out the pre-Zyuranger teams.

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Now I want to watch both back to back. It's funny all the stuff they got away with, because kids aren't observant enough or really care as long as they see giant robots.

Well if you've got Netflix and you've got streaming in your plan, that's one way to see them.

I'm almost ashamed to say that I didn't really notice all these things and I was FIFTEEN. Though someone in one of my classes was actually talking about how Jason's voice been sounding different. I may have noticed that all along, but it only started to stand out to me more after hearing that guy talk about it.

All these things had prompted me to type something up about those episodes where they've had the stand-ins, voice imitations, and whats episode old footage and old dubbed lines used in these episodes came from. They also had to do similar things when David Yost walked out during Zeo and when Valerie Vernon went on sick leave from Lost Galaxy. Also, if you remember "The Wedding" where Rita comes back and marries Zedd and "Return of the Green Ranger" where Tommy is cloned and his clone uses the Green Ranger powers, they had recycled footage of the rangers as well, since the cast was in Australia shooting the movie and both those three-parters were also filmed down there.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Wow, looking back, it seems like Jason, Zack, and Trini left almost right after the White Ranger was introduced.

I can't believe I didn't notice how Zack went from dreadlocks back to his season one hairstyle.

One thing I did notice as a kid, was that Kimberly wore a bunch of belly shirts in season two. I'd never seen that style before, and was wondering why her shirt didn't fit right.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Wow, looking back, it seems like Jason, Zack, and Trini left almost right after the White Ranger was introduced.

I can't believe I didn't notice how Zack went from dreadlocks back to his season one hairstyle.

Their actors ditched the show two episodes after the White Ranger debuted. Even the eight they were in before that, their actors didn't even do their own ADR sessions.

It was kind of odd how Zack went back and forth from dreads to the flattop. Though after PR, he moved on to Space Cases and had the flattop again.

[Hero]

Originally Posted by sdp

I don't understand this, to the target audience any ranger team that is more than 4 years old is new to them and that is already being hopeful, they probably don't know who half the post-zyu teams even are. Calling the pre-zyu ranger teams from other planets/dimensions/other parts of the earth is an explanation that takes 4 seconds and leaves no questions for older fans or newer fans.

Fair enough, though having loads of old Ranger teams all from across the galaxy is probably a bit lazy (though it does same time). Earth should at least have dibs on a couple without too much establishment of the past. A lot of the Ranger motifs are Earth-based too.

Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

They don't even have to include any pre-Zyuranger teams. In fact, there was something about how Toei may have shot a version of the Legend War scene from Gokaiger to be used in PR that leaves out the pre-Zyuranger teams.

A lot of Gokaiger has multiple Ranger mix-ups, especially when Basco shows up. I guess it depends how much Japanese footage is used.

It would be a challenge. Hope whatever the show is it will be good.