Next Mutation

[Kalel]

So ive been wanting to watch Next Mutation for awhile now. I was planning on getting the VHS ones from Amazon. Is it worth it?

[Powder]

Youtube it. If you don't like what you see, don't buy it.

[Logan]

Or stream it via Netflix.

[Jester]

VHS ones? We talking about the "movie" version of East Meets West?

It's not THAT bad. I have a copy I was bought as a gift by my parents when it was new. I've watched it a few times, has things cut from the TV airings added back in.

[gobo]

And hear the horrid replacement music! Crapabunga!

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Kalel

So ive been wanting to watch Next Mutation for awhile now. I was planning on getting the VHS ones from Amazon. Is it worth it?

It was declared non-canon by the co-creator of the franchise.

That should tell you bucketloads

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It was declared non-canon by the co-creator of the franchise.

That should tell you bucketloads

And so were issues of the Mirage series like "The River".

Regardless, you're misusing the word "canon" again.

[Stingray69]

I really dont think its that bad so go for it.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

And so were issues of the Mirage series like "The River".

Regardless, you're misusing the word "canon" again.

The f*ck I am.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

And so were issues of the Mirage series like "The River".

"The River" was deemed non canon for business reasons. The Next Mutation was deemed non canon because it was crap.

In all seriousness East Meets West and a handful of choice episodes here and there would be okay with some tweaks. I'd still jetison a certain female turtle though.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The f*ck I am.

Yes, you are. You can't just say, "Peter Laird declared it non-canon" when The Next Mutation is its own thing.

You can say it's not canon with the movie trilogy, that would certainly be appropriate and probably true. But you can't just say it's not part of Ninja Turtles canon, because there's no such thing. Even though there's been some cross-overs here and there, each individual TMNT series is its own canon.

[gobo]

TNM is non-canon? With itself?? That sounds like something I'd say to amuse myself. ^_^

[Dragnskull]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_%28fiction%29

"In fiction, canon is the conceptual material accepted as "official" in a fictional universe's fan base. It is often contrasted with, or used as the basis for, works of fan fiction, which are not considered canonical. It is used in two slightly different meanings: first, "it refers to the overall set of storylines, premises, settings, and characters offered by the source media text".[1]:28 In this sense, canon is "the original work from which the fan fiction author borrows,"[2] or "the original media on which the fan fictions are based."[3] Secondly, it is used "as a descriptor of specific incidents, relationships, or story arcs that take place within the overall canon"; thus certain incidents or relationships may be described as being canon or not."

looks like hes using it right to me

[ToTheNines]

Next Mutation wasn't fan-fiction, brother. It was produced by Saban, aired on Fox Kids, and had toys made for it by Playmates. It was an officially licensed show, Pete and Kevin made money off it... need I go on?

If we're gonna go by that little blurb, then the Fred Wolf Cartoon, the movies, the Archie series and the 4kids show are all non-canon. They're absolutely not canon with the source material... but they create their own canon. Therefor you can't just say "that's not canon", unless you're saying (or atleast implying) "that's not canon with the _____ series". See?

Way to use wikipedia rather than your brain though.

[Candy Kappa]

worst interpretation of an Wiki article, ever.

TNM ain't a fan creation

[Redeemer]

^This makes me laugh, In all honesty I want to try, key word try to watch TNM

[gobo]

Easier said than done...

[Kalel]

I didnt know people felt so strong about Next Mutation and if its canon or not. Either way i appreciate the insight. And Im going to get it. Thanks guys.

[Powder]

We don't, we just don't like people who spew off without knowing what they're talking about.

[FearlessLeader]

Good luck with this series, I even enjoy the rock concert version on some levels for how goofy it was, but personally can't stand TNM. I love camp, but I just felt the series was so poorly written and some of the characters so out of line from any other version of them that it isn't even worth your time you will spend watching it.