Are the mutant allies more popular than the mutant villains?

[CyberCubed]

In another thread in the Nick section, we were discussing if Groundchuck and Dirtbag were well received enough to consider a possible comeback like Nick is doing with Metalhead. It was then made the notion, that with the exception of the really popular mutant villains like Rocksteady/Bebop, Slash, Rahzar/Tokka, etc....that the "mutant allies" or animal friends tend to be more popular.

See if you agree. The heroes:

- Leatherhead
- Mondo Gecko
- Ray Fillet
- Napoleon Bonafrog
- Merdude
- Wingnut/Screwloose
- Dreadmon
- Jaguar
- Mona Lisa
- Ninjara
- Warrior Dragon/Hothead
- Ace Duck


So is this true? Do you think the mutant/animal allies of the Turtles tend to be more popular than the mutant villains?

Outside of Rocksteady/Bebop, Slash, Rahzar/Tokka, Armaggon, and fly-Baxter....the rest of the mutant villains don't tend to be as popular.

[Jester]

Yes .

[Stingray69]

I would say so.

[Nintendophile]

I'd have to agree. If you look at it from a non-biased point of view, the characters that got the most story-time are usually the ones people remember more. Most of the mutant allies mentioned above had appearances in the cartoon, and somewhat lengthy, recurring appearances in the comics.

Though, it's difficult for us to think in terms like that, because WE'RE the people who WOULD remember Groundchuck and Dirtbag. lol.

[Powder]

I disagree. I'd say it's pretty fair balanced, if not leaning towards villains being more popular. The majority of the TMNT's mutant allies were known from Archie, not the show. There's no doubt the OT was watched far more than the Archie comic was read. I'm sure if I were to ask casual fans they'd remember fellas like Metalhead over Wingnut. The toyline also helped further the popularity of the villains, I would imagine. The same could probably be said of some of the allies but kids also remember the evil stuff more fondly for their "badass" appearances, I think.

[Redeemer]

I actually liked the mutant villains better. I jst like there designs better and back stories, but then again I do not know all of the mutant allies

[CyberCubed]

I think its odd to say really. Muckman/Joe eyeball started off as villains but then became good guys. Same with Mutagen Man really.

Scumbug, Wyrm and Antrax got appearances in the show/Archie series but never seemed to become that popular. Is it because all 3 are based on bugs?

[AcidBurn30]

i think so

but i reading th comic books with Wingnut/Screwloose, they're more solo than good or bad guys..He was more of greed with money...But they're both so cool

[Jester]

Um...did you read any of the Mutanimals issues?

[AcidBurn30]

yeah i read them.. but i was aimming when they come back from the planet when they have to wrestle... and Raphael was stuck with the black and blue oil look.. Not only that he also had his OWN comic book too.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Mutanimals would rock if they had their own show, spinoff from the 1987 cartoon. But the problem was some of them were bad guys in the 1987 cartoon.

[Fugitoid Jones]

Post #666!! \m/

Originally Posted by AcidBurn30

yeah i read them.. but i was aimming when they come back from the planet when they have to wrestle... and Raphael was stuck with the black and blue oil look.. Not only that he also had his OWN comic book too.

.....uhhh....pretty sure Wingnut and Screwloose didn't have their own comic book. Or am I reading AcidBurn30's post wrong?

When I was a kid, I seem to remember alot of the other kids having more mutant ally figures than mutant enemies. My reasoning for basing my opinion on the toys is because most of the supporting cast seemed to originate from the toy line (for the most part, at least). So for my memory, I'd have to say that the allies were more popular, but that's just my experience.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

I think it's impossible for me to see Leatherhead and Wingnut as a good guys. I like some mutant heroes, like Mondo Gecko & Mona Lisa, but that's really it. I think the fewer the mutant allies, the better.

[Jester]

I think it's the Archie fan-boy in me that says, "Bring on the mutant-animals!" Or Mutanimals if you will.

[pannoni1]

The problem though is the OT remains the most popular incarnation followed by the movies and video games. And with Rocksteady & Bebop the most popular followed by Fly Baxter (and Leatherhead was a villain in this version). Don't forget all those mutant villains in Red Sky in addition, not to mention all those enemies in the video games. I'd say for casual fans, the mutant villains are more popular, but for the die-hards, the edge goes to the mutant allies, with the main enemies having more an emphasis on Foot/Purple Dragon members.

[Hermano Dyvas]

I prefer mutant villains:
Slash, Bebop & Rocksteady, Tokkah & Rahzar.

From the mutant allies I like Mondo Gecko, Ray Fillet, Wingnut & Screwloose, umm... Slash?

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by Jester

I think it's the Archie fan-boy in me that says, "Bring on the mutant-animals!" Or Mutanimals if you will.

I couldn't have said it any better, man! I love those guys, especially Mondo Gecko! Though I must say I prefer Mona Lisa over Ninjara.

[oldmanwinters]

I vote Villains being the more popular group. Also, most people consider Leatherhead a villain, so that tilts the scales heavily in their favor.

[AcidBurn30]

reading it wrong...sorry i mix it all together lol
i will have to find the names of the comic books so everyone can read it...ALSO the video game fighters for sega have his story...

[Xav]

I don't remember any of those "heroes" besides Leatherhead, Wingnut, and Screwloose who if I recall were villains. So I would have to say no.