The Raphael Thread - Page 2

*Guitar_Raph* · 03-30-2011, 10:17 PM

Raph's been the bad boy rebel since the 1990 movie.

He was very mellow in the OT as well as COOTS where he played drums & sax. It was cool that he & Mikey wrote the music & lyrics.

Starting with Next Mutation, Raph got his own set of wheels driving motorcycles. And like Mikey/Turtle Titan, he became Night Watcher in the 2007 movie.

Icegaze · 03-31-2011, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph

Raph's been the bad boy rebel since the 1990 movie.

You aren't familiar with the Mirage comics, are you?

ryukenden · 04-03-2011, 07:47 AM

Like a lot of people, it's the Fred Wolf toon that introduced me to TMNT.

Fred Wolf Raph: Definitely the joker of the group and I can barely recall times when he was moody.

Movie Raph: Came as a complete shock personality-wise as I was being so used to Raph from the Fred Wolf toon. Certainly got the most focus in pretty much all the movies.

Next Mutation Raph: The only complaint I got is that surfer voice.

4Kids Raph: I would put him in the same league as he is in the movies.

*ssjup81* · 04-04-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Herald7

Now this is just my own personal analysis, lol, but here's one way to look at it. Some people tell jokes and make smart ass remarks in order to get the attention they feel they are lacking. Now Leonardo has the classic leader personality, Donatello's a freakin genius and Michaelangelo, well he's got enough personality for all four of them, lol. Then there's Raphael, he's not a scientist, the leadership role is already taken and one party dude in the group is more than enough. Where does he fit? He's basically the group's #2. Great, but never quite #1. A very insecure place to be in and you would probably start to get rather annoyed at life too. And historically, an easy way to get yourself noticed is to be rude.

I like this assessment. Maybe he is cynical because he is trying to find his place within the group, and being a smart alleck was just his way of covering up his insecurities. I'm surprised I didn't think of something like that, with the way I like to analyze characters I'd like to know more about. lol

Now, for the Archie series, his cynicism could be summed up as his just being a realist and "realizing" that there isn't always a bright side to everything.

**Jester** · 08-07-2011, 02:15 AM

You know what's weird about Raphael? He, of all the Turtles, seems to have a weird sense of their uniqueness, and he doesn't like it. In both the Mirage series and the Archie books, he seems to be the one who realizes that there are only 4 mutant Turtles and that they are all male.

Iroh · 08-07-2011, 11:49 AM

2K3 Raph from Seasons 1-5 is my favorite! He shows the much growth in my opinion. He acts before he speaks and he is not too insubordinate to Leonardo. When Leo lost his Budo spirit to his anger, Raph kept things in line until Leo finished his training with the Ancient One.

raphfan84 · 08-07-2011, 09:10 PM

With out a shadow of a doubt my favorite Raphael would have to be Movie 1. That is exactly how I thought Raphael should be portrayed in a movie after reading some of the comics. I loved how he was really dark, a lone ranger, and could kick a** like no ones business! My next favorite in line would be 2K3 Raph. He was pretty close to the movie 1 counterpart. 3rd would have to honestly be the 2007 movie Raph just for the simple fact that I was ready to see him and Leo actually duke it out. I like Raphael in every movie, and cartoon, I really don't care for the comedy version of Raphael.

Herald7 · 08-07-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by raphfan84

With out a shadow of a doubt my favorite Raphael would have to be Movie 1.

Oh definitely, that character was a triumph of the writers, actor and puppeteer that hasn't gotten enough praise over the years. He had genuine teenage angst yet also humor that showed he was just as weirded out by this world as we were, lol.

Time Mistress · 08-10-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by raphfan84

With out a shadow of a doubt my favorite Raphael would have to be Movie 1. That is exactly how I thought Raphael should be portrayed in a movie after reading some of the comics. I loved how he was really dark, a lone ranger, and could kick a** like no ones business! My next favorite in line would be 2K3 Raph. He was pretty close to the movie 1 counterpart. 3rd would have to honestly be the 2007 movie Raph just for the simple fact that I was ready to see him and Leo actually duke it out. I like Raphael in every movie, and cartoon, I really don't care for the comedy version of Raphael.

Ditto for me. I like my Raph ansty and angry and with a NYC accent. Though I'd say movie 1 and movie 4 are tied for me for best portrayal of Raph. Then 2k3. After I saw movie 1, Raph went from being my least favorite turtle to most. Rob Paulson is a helluva VA, but OT Raph never did much of anything for me. (Boy is it going to be weird hearing him do Donatello.)

I only hope Nickolodeon Raph is in the mould of movie/2k3 Raph.

*plastroncafe* · 08-11-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

You know what's weird about Raphael? He, of all the Turtles, seems to have a weird sense of their uniqueness, and he doesn't like it. In both the Mirage series and the Archie books, he seems to be the one who realizes that there are only 4 mutant Turtles and that they are all male.

I've always imagined that the other three realize it, they just don't internalize it like Raph does. I find it hard to believe that Don hasn't done the biological math, but has compartmentalized it. Leo probably takes it in stride as a warrior's path. And Mike...really, what phases Mike?

**Jester** · 08-11-2011, 11:09 AM

I think Rob-hael worked for the old toon. The tone was drastically different from the Mirage source material and and any of the other media.

**Venom** · 08-11-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

And Mike...really, what phases Mike?

Mike actually embraces his Turtley self and revels in it.

Julie · 08-11-2011, 04:47 PM

Raph is very cool and badass!

Metropoliskid41 · 12-29-2011, 03:06 PM

Bump!

Raph is my favorite turtle, kind of a smartass, quick to anger, and the strongest turtle of the group. Those are all characters traits I have as well so maybe thats why I like him and Casey Jones so much

It is going to be weird hearing Rob Paulsen do the voice of Donatello in the Nick Toon, Paulsen will always be the voice of Raph to me, its going to be weird hearing Raphs voice come outta Donnie's mouth (just like the animation error in the first episode of the OT).

I'm a pretty big fan of the Future Raph characterization in the comics, what is everyone elses favorite take on the character?

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-29-2011, 03:59 PM

So your the tough hothead,huh? I hadn't seen it...yet.

I am a perfect meld of Michelangelo/Leonardo yet instead of Leonardo Raphael is my close second favorite. I like his unique personalitiy as a hotheaded jokster. Rob Paulsen is Raphael to me. The movies did a great job of studying his realist and anger traits. I hope to see more scarasm in the near future. Its apart of what made him so fun and its always great to see a character study on this great hero.

tmntgeoff · 03-10-2012, 02:00 AM

i love his new york accent in the 1st movie. but i also love the 87 cartoon raph too

Avatar Yuffie · 03-10-2012, 05:36 AM

Movie 1 Raph will always be Raphael to me.

But I adore OT Raph. I'm sorry, but his sarcastic quips really made me laugh. I wish that persona somehow survived later adaptations in another Turtle if "tough guy" Raph will be the template.

~~JakeSully~~ · 03-13-2012, 04:22 PM

Definitely first movie and Paulsen Ralph are my faves.

shezcrafti · 03-16-2012, 01:03 PM

Movie 1 Raph is the ultimate for me. He's just so freaking badass!! (That's why I made the video that's in my sig.) But more than that, he's sensitive and complex. Despite his anger management issues, you can tell he's fiercely loyal to and protective of his family.

The original toon is what got me into TMNT in the first place and I loved OT Raph back then too, but I remember my world being completely rocked when I saw him in the first film. That portrayal just defines Raphael to me. Loved Josh Pais as his voice, too.

cryan · 03-16-2012, 07:22 PM

Like I said.I view the OT Raph as Han Solo.Solo was very sarcastic and also a bad ***.

03-30-2011, 10:17 PM	#21
Guitar_Raph Superhero musician Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,191	Raph's been the bad boy rebel since the 1990 movie. He was very mellow in the OT as well as COOTS where he played drums & sax. It was cool that he & Mikey wrote the music & lyrics. Starting with Next Mutation, Raph got his own set of wheels driving motorcycles. And like Mikey/Turtle Titan, he became Night Watcher in the 2007 movie. __________________ Mikey drums with nunchucks! Last edited by Guitar_Raph; 03-31-2011 at 09:18 PM.

08-07-2011, 02:15 AM	#25
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	You know what's weird about Raphael? He, of all the Turtles, seems to have a weird sense of their uniqueness, and he doesn't like it. In both the Mirage series and the Archie books, he seems to be the one who realizes that there are only 4 mutant Turtles and that they are all male. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-07-2011, 11:49 AM	#26
Iroh Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United States Posts: 546	2K3 Raph from Seasons 1-5 is my favorite! He shows the much growth in my opinion. He acts before he speaks and he is not too insubordinate to Leonardo. When Leo lost his Budo spirit to his anger, Raph kept things in line until Leo finished his training with the Ancient One. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/yurushiigaming

08-11-2011, 11:09 AM	#31
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I think Rob-hael worked for the old toon. The tone was drastically different from the Mirage source material and and any of the other media. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

12-29-2011, 03:06 PM	#34
Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	Bump! Raph is my favorite turtle, kind of a smartass, quick to anger, and the strongest turtle of the group. Those are all characters traits I have as well so maybe thats why I like him and Casey Jones so much It is going to be weird hearing Rob Paulsen do the voice of Donatello in the Nick Toon, Paulsen will always be the voice of Raph to me, its going to be weird hearing Raphs voice come outta Donnie's mouth (just like the animation error in the first episode of the OT). I'm a pretty big fan of the Future Raph characterization in the comics, what is everyone elses favorite take on the character? __________________ -------------------

04-03-2011, 07:47 AM	#23
ryukenden Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 383	Like a lot of people, it's the Fred Wolf toon that introduced me to TMNT. Fred Wolf Raph: Definitely the joker of the group and I can barely recall times when he was moody. Movie Raph: Came as a complete shock personality-wise as I was being so used to Raph from the Fred Wolf toon. Certainly got the most focus in pretty much all the movies. Next Mutation Raph: The only complaint I got is that surfer voice. 4Kids Raph: I would put him in the same league as he is in the movies.

08-07-2011, 09:10 PM	#27
raphfan84 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Winston-Salem NC. Posts: 630	With out a shadow of a doubt my favorite Raphael would have to be Movie 1. That is exactly how I thought Raphael should be portrayed in a movie after reading some of the comics. I loved how he was really dark, a lone ranger, and could kick a** like no ones business! My next favorite in line would be 2K3 Raph. He was pretty close to the movie 1 counterpart. 3rd would have to honestly be the 2007 movie Raph just for the simple fact that I was ready to see him and Leo actually duke it out. I like Raphael in every movie, and cartoon, I really don't care for the comedy version of Raphael.

08-11-2011, 04:47 PM	#33
Julie Thug Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 63	Raph is very cool and badass!

12-29-2011, 03:59 PM	#35
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	So your the tough hothead,huh? I hadn't seen it...yet. I am a perfect meld of Michelangelo/Leonardo yet instead of Leonardo Raphael is my close second favorite. I like his unique personalitiy as a hotheaded jokster. Rob Paulsen is Raphael to me. The movies did a great job of studying his realist and anger traits. I hope to see more scarasm in the near future. Its apart of what made him so fun and its always great to see a character study on this great hero. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

03-10-2012, 02:00 AM	#36
tmntgeoff Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: seattle washington Posts: 326	i love his new york accent in the 1st movie. but i also love the 87 cartoon raph too

03-10-2012, 05:36 AM	#37
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	Movie 1 Raph will always be Raphael to me. But I adore OT Raph. I'm sorry, but his sarcastic quips really made me laugh. I wish that persona somehow survived later adaptations in another Turtle if "tough guy" Raph will be the template. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

03-13-2012, 04:22 PM	#38
~~JakeSully~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 782	Definitely first movie and Paulsen Ralph are my faves.

03-16-2012, 01:03 PM	#39
shezcrafti Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: The East warehouse over at Lairdman island. Posts: 367	Movie 1 Raph is the ultimate for me. He's just so freaking badass!! (That's why I made the video that's in my sig.) But more than that, he's sensitive and complex. Despite his anger management issues, you can tell he's fiercely loyal to and protective of his family. The original toon is what got me into TMNT in the first place and I loved OT Raph back then too, but I remember my world being completely rocked when I saw him in the first film. That portrayal just defines Raphael to me. Loved Josh Pais as his voice, too. __________________ Shellebrating 25+ Years of TMNT History [Infographic] All of Raphael's Badassery in One Video Spoiler:

03-16-2012, 07:22 PM	#40
cryan Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens,AL Posts: 743	Like I said.I view the OT Raph as Han Solo.Solo was very sarcastic and also a bad ***.