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Old 03-13-2012, 10:04 PM   #21
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Given the budget I'd be really surprised, even shocked if the TMNT we see in the movie the whole time are CGI. Real costumes with CGI assists mean they can save on CGI rendering and save (pretty much entirely) on animatronics while leaning on CGI only where absolutely necessary.
But the expense of creating the costumes (animatronics not withstanding) might be just as hefty as just removing the mo-capped people and replacing with CG....

But then again, I don't rightly know. I'd assume the suits would need to look pretty real, aside from the faces, and they'd probably be put through heck for stunts.

I guess one way would be to look at the budgets of a CG-assisted costume film vs. a fully CG mo-capped movie.

EDIT: How was Where the Wild Things Are produced? It cost 100 Million, where as Rise of the Planet of the Apes was 93 Million, according to BoxOfficeMojo.com. The cost is similar.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #22
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But the expense of creating the costumes (animatronics not withstanding) might be just as hefty as just removing the mo-capped people and replacing with CG....
Not really. You introduce fully CGI characters into a live-action set interacting with live-action actors and actresses and it's to be believable, you're introducing a million variables and millions of dollars in man hours. Light sourcing, 3D mapping onto live action landscapes, and then actual people too? And it's not even in a blue/greenscreen environment that can be manipulated with layers? That's about as painstaking to produce as it gets.

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EDIT: How was Where the Wild Things Are produced? It cost 100 Million, where as Rise of the Planet of the Apes was 93 Million, according to BoxOfficeMojo.com. The cost is similar.
Where the Wild Things Are is probably the exact template this movie is following. That was all real suits with CGI assists for facial/lip movement. I bet that's what we're getting here, along with maybe a few high-action scenes where they can afford to insert some fully-CGI TMNT going crazy with ninjitsu in a way you just can't if it's a guy -- no matter how capable -- fumbling around mostly blindly in a suit.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:24 PM   #23
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Nice to have a date, I think we all wanted summer time but there is always tons of competition then, though that would've meant they were taking it more seriously, I thought they wanted TMNT to be their next "Transformers" but who knows if that's what they're still planning. Christmas 2013 really isn't that far away, about a year and a half away, we should see a teaser poster of some kind by SDCC.


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Why do I even bother reading threads when I see the last poster and can tell what was said.

Example: I saw that Andrew was the last poster in this thread (at one point), so I knew anything said would be about how the movie isn't Mirage and will therefor suck.

Don't even have to open the flippin' thread.

ooohh what about for me?

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Old 03-13-2012, 11:31 PM   #24
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Eh I'll believe it when I see the trailer. Also still not thrilled with the choice of director.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:02 AM   #25
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Anyway! Nice to have news!!!! Something is something!!!!
Thanks for sharing !
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Old 03-14-2012, 07:15 AM   #26
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Hey, that's awesome news. I'm glad there's a release date for it at least.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:26 AM   #27
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Glad to hear we are finally getting some news on this film! Hopefully their will be more in the close future!
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:19 AM   #28
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Eh I'll believe it when I see the trailer. Also still not thrilled with the choice of director.
You're not "thrilled" about anything TMNT-related these days. All the more reason to ignore you.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:35 AM   #29
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Great to hear.


Just gotta wait for trailer to really see how this will shape up.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:57 AM   #30
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Glad to see it's getting some progress.

Would really like to see a teaser image or something. Just to see the direction they are going. I've been wanting a dark and gritty TMNT movie for a very long time.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:05 AM   #31
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Cool news, not too far away. Good time to be a Turtles fan!

Wish we could get some info on the plot though.

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Don’t like the idea of putting it up against The Hobbit part 2, though. That’s a bit iffy. I would have thought TMNT would lend itself to the summer season perfectly.
Well all movies have competition. If they rushed it and went with summer 2013, it'd be up against Superman, Wolverine, etc. And if they held off until summer 2014, then that runs into Paramount's very own Transformers 4, and whatever else pops up there too (probably the sequel to Amazing Spider-Man).
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:16 AM   #32
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It really sucks that it was rewritten from what was rated so highly by Kevin (that's who said it right?), and that gives me cause for concern too.
When did Kevin say this? Does anyone have a link?
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:16 AM   #33
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Im very excited myself i just hope none of the violence is toned down like the secret of the ooze!

I was hoping for a Sin City style movie where everything is black and white except touches of color like the headbands

If they can make a sin city movie like the graphic novel why not tmnt ?
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:24 AM   #34
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Im very excited myself i just hope none of the violence is toned down like the secret of the ooze!

I was hoping for a Sin City style movie where everything is black and white except touches of color like the headbands

If they can make a sin city movie like the graphic novel why not tmnt ?
I agree with you there, dude. That would be awesome.

Quite a few reason's they can't do that though. TMNT is marketed as a very kid-friendly franchise, and kid's love color.


Oh, and yes, I'm stoked to see this moving forward!

Andrew, in the last Kevin interview I saw he discussed how they had a dark script, tried to lighten it, and were now kinda taking it back to the original script idea. So, there is some hope there. Did you ever get a chance to read the first proposed script?
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:27 AM   #35
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When did Kevin say this? Does anyone have a link?
http://mutantooze.org/wiki/?p=2163

He mentions in the video that he read the script and really liked it... Who knows how much of the original script will be used...

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Old 03-14-2012, 10:27 AM   #36
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Do we even know if the Nemec/Applebaum script has anything to do with the Fusco script?
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:40 AM   #37
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I feel a Christmas release may benefit Playmates more since it will encourage more to buy the toys in addition. But like the 1990 movie, we need a good first couple seasons of the cartoon to build some hype for this movie. It's nice, but since its down the pike, I'm still more anticipated over the Nick series.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:59 AM   #38
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http://mutantooze.org/wiki/?p=2163

He mentions in the video that he read the script and really liked it... Who knows how much of the original script will be used...

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But, wait a second! It says that the video was uploaded in November. Unless I missed it, Kevin doesn't clarify when he read the script. It sounds very possible that he read a fairly recent draft and thought it was "...excellent"

Thanks for the Link. I must have missed that if it was posted here last year.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:08 AM   #39
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Yeah that video was posted months after the Mi4 guys were hired to rewrite the script.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:43 AM   #40
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hey dudes, back when I was sitting at the movies in sin city(twice) I thought that a tmnt movie realized much like sin city but just catching the eastman and laird spirit and art would be a perfect thing,great to see you guys share this point of view!...
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