Director FINALLY Comments On TMNT Aliens Issue

[ctt4lfecw]

I prefer Shredder to be human. And Krang should be Krang by himself. And if there are other brain creatures like Utroms, Krang should be master.

[Xav]

No way, Ch'rell should be.

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by Xav

No way, Ch'rell should be.

I don't think they would tie in Ch'rell because he's an original 2k3 concept. I do prefer Saki human, but IF they did use Ch'rell...I'm almost certain that would be badass.

[MikeandRaph87]

I am not sure if it has been posted yet or referenced to on one of the TMAT threads but Peter Laird gave an extensive response to the alien angle. He said while they can do as they please with the property he said he doubts Nick or anyone would change it to remove any part of the name Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I guess he means stay tuned and see if they really changed it to what we fear.

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....urtles-as.html

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot..../question.html

[ctt4lfecw]

Originally Posted by Xav

No way, Ch'rell should be.

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Woops, I mean that Krang should be leader of Dimension X.

[shezcrafti]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

I am not sure if it has been posted yet or referenced to on one of the TMAT threads but Peter Laird gave an extensive response to the alien angle. He said while they can do as they please with the property he said he doubts Nick or anyone would change it to remove any part of the name Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I guess he means stay tuned and see if they really changed it to what we fear.

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....urtles-as.html

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot..../question.html

Thanks for posting, that was a really interesting read.

[k_lala]

I really wish Peter was involved with this.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by k_lala

I really wish Peter was involved with this.

I'm glad he's not.

[Spitfire]

I love and respect Peter but I'm glad he not either. He's a little too picky and that's part of the reason TMNT turned out the way it did. I just wish there was someone who had some kind of power, and intelligence, to stop some of these horrible ideas.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

I love and respect Peter but I'm glad he not either. He's a little too picky and that's part of the reason TMNT turned out the way it did. I just wish there was someone who had some kind of power, and intelligence, to stop some of these horrible ideas.

I respect the man completely for what he has given us, and I will always be grateful to him, but I do think his head is just too far up his own backside. His interview that was posted on comicbookmovie.com yesterday only strengthens that opinion, and makes me even more thankful that he is not involved. I think he decided to call it a day at just the right time, because that interview really makes me think that he would have eventually become TMNT’s own worst enemy, not unlike George Lucas. He just doesn’t seem to be open to any ideas unless they’re born from his own mind. I have a hard time with artists like that.

[ctt4lfecw]

Originally Posted by Bob

I respect the man completely for what he has given us, and I will always be grateful to him, but I do think his head is just too far up his own backside. His interview that was posted on comicbookmovie.com yesterday only strengthens that opinion, and makes me even more thankful that he is not involved. I think he decided to call it a day at just the right time, because that interview really makes me think that he would have eventually become TMNT’s own worst enemy, not unlike George Lucas. He just doesn’t seem to be open to any ideas unless they’re born from his own mind. I have a hard time with artists like that.

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I agree. Im an art student and I know how it is. Sometimes it's tough to be open to new ideas, especially if it's your own creation. You say to yourself, " what do they know they didn't create it."

[FearlessLeader]

Originally Posted by Bob

I respect the man completely for what he has given us, and I will always be grateful to him, but I do think his head is just too far up his own backside. His interview that was posted on comicbookmovie.com yesterday only strengthens that opinion, and makes me even more thankful that he is not involved. I think he decided to call it a day at just the right time, because that interview really makes me think that he would have eventually become TMNT’s own worst enemy, not unlike George Lucas. He just doesn’t seem to be open to any ideas unless they’re born from his own mind. I have a hard time with artists like that.

Watch the Next Mutation and then let's talk about Laird's poor choices. TMNT was brilliant compared to that.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Bob

He just doesn’t seem to be open to any ideas unless they’re born from his own mind.

I don't know how you can say that. Just look at the 4Kids series it has tons of stuff that wasn't in the Mirage comics, and if you look a Peter's notes on the series, you can see that it wouldn't have been as good if Peter wasn't involved.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Xav

I don't know how you can say that. Just look at the 4Kids series it has tons of stuff that wasn't in the Mirage comics, and if you look a Peter's notes on the series, you can see that it wouldn't have been as good if Peter wasn't involved.

No matter how much people like to talk about the 2 or 3 episodes that are vaguely based on Mirage comics and tell you the whole series was like that, the 4Kids series on the whole is like 99.9% non-Mirage material. Only difference is that there's not much Fred Wolf crap (which automatically puts Fred Wolf fans' panties in a bind) and Peter pretty actively sculpted and/or vetoed stuff this time around.

[Xav]

Oh come on it's a lot more than 2 or 3 episodes. The first four seasons had a number of episodes based off of Mirage comics.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Xav

Oh come on it's a lot more than 2 or 3 episodes. The first four seasons had a number of episodes based off of Mirage comics.

Very loosely. The only one I've seen that's both tonally and story-wise pretty faithful is the Kirby episode.

I soldiered through a bunch of it and was really looking forward to the 4Kids "Return to New York," too. I finally arrived at it and found it to be horribly unwatchable to me... like some kind of toy cavalcade of utter nonsense. I wasn't expecting any kind of bloody mayhem or anything like that, but at least something tonally similar, but there's just nothing of the sort there (despite people loving to overstate the "ZOMG, but can you believe they let Leo decapitate an android, even though we see it pick up its own head like 5 seconds later? that was totally Mirage gritty!").

[Candy Kappa]

adaptations will never be completely correct to the original. just look at movies like V for Vendetta, Watchmen... All of the Alan Moore comic movie adaptations. The DC animated movies based off specific stories like Under the Hood and so on, and so on.

[TMNTdude87]

Jumping into this a little late but I was on vacation.... in the woods.... with no electric power..... or a wifi connection.

Having gone over the news about the whole TANT fiassco. All I have to say is Bay needs to better choose his words during his next interview. If controversy is what he wanted he got it, on a GLOBAL SCALE! Are the turtles aliens? His quote I seem to think they are, but with all the news surrounding Krang and inter-dimensional alien beings I don't know I see what many of you have already pointed out, Fred Wolf finally adapted to the big screen. Honestly it's way too early to tell. We have five or so guys in a room discussing what this movie will be, at this very moment. It could go anywhere.

Though as Jester pointed out without names or confirmations from the actual sources this could just be someone blowing smoke up our butts. I also have to agree on Andrew's comments as well. There's nothing in his speeches or words that state which direction this film is headed into. They could very well be aliens, or they could revert back to just mutations.

On my personal thoughts on Kevin Eastman involved. He's only hired as a consultant, and consultants are just there hired by studio brass to trick fans into thinking some quality control is in place here. When Bob Kane was on the set of Batman and he did not like something (I'm pretty sure he was against Michael Keaton's casting) and confronted Burton or Schumacher about it, I'm sure Tim or Joel would say I'll think about it, though they most likely blew him off. After all Kane doesn't own Batman anymore so we legally don't have to listen to him.

[1984TMNT]

I think it's more than obvious that the following occurred when Bay spoke his now infamous lines:

1) Bay doesn't know a ton about the mythology, and he made a comment that he "thought" was generally "correct", however he didn't realize just how incorrect his phrasing of his statement was

2) Bay's comments were taken directly out of context because he knows damn well that by them being "alien", he was referring to the ooze coming from the Utroms, and therefore ultimately, the Turtles existence is directly tied to Aliens.

Either way - I'm 99% sure and confident (based on comments made by the director since), that they will not be CHANGING anything about the origin. Instead, they will add additional backstory/details to flesh out the origin and the story they are going to tell.

I think everyone can relax on this now....

Is it possible they screw everything up - sure....but like I said....I think there is roughly a 1% chance of that happening.

[strugler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=onHtoKkGaoE

I think this is pretty damn funny! It might be a bit NSFW though