Conservative states with higher pregnancy rates - Page 4

*BubblyShell22* · 03-21-2012, 08:22 AM

Well, I wouldn't know anything about that. Besides, it's just my opinion anyway. I'd rather be in a committed relationship and have sex than just to have sex with some random guy.

As for Easy A, I really wanted to see that movie but never got around to it. That movie was all about the girl faking having sex and dealing with people saying that she did when she didn't have sex. I don't see why that's sending a bad message.

NameGoesHere1066 · 03-26-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hannah

You don't need no relationship fo' good sex, yo.

maybe, just so long as you use protection. I can't tell you how many girls I see who refuse to use contraception for some dumb reason.

I think that as long as both are willing and responciable I think casual sex is just fine and very enjoyable. However I put emphasis on responciable some people are just out of control when it comes to having sex. I mean my God how shameless is it to have had so many different sexual partners in a brief amount of time to the point that you don't know who fathered your kid? It's not just those assholes who show up on Maury for paternity tests, I see women like this in real life who just don't know who the hell the father is. The drama that ensues is just disgusting and ugly and theres a human life involved.

I hate puritan mindsets on sex but at the same time I don't think we should be going hog wild either. Isn't there a middle ground?

*Hannah* · 03-26-2012, 11:19 AM

F*ck that noise. Responsible is making sure you use protection and practicing consent. I can sleep with WHOEVER I want WHENEVER I want AS OFTEN as I want and that's totally fine. It's not irresponsible to have multiple partners. That's bullsh*t.

NameGoesHere1066 · 03-26-2012, 11:38 AM

calm down chica! I never said you couldn't have as many partners as you want; what you said right here:

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Responsible is making sure you use protection and practicing consent

that was the point.But if you are going to do that keeping tract of who you 've been with is important so you know who fathered the kid because an alarming amount of people just don't use protection and then they suddenly don't know who the daddy is. Thats part of being responciable.

*plastroncafe* · 03-26-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NameGoesHere1066

I hate puritan mindsets on sex but at the same time I don't think we should be going hog wild either. Isn't there a middle ground?

There's no middle ground when paternity and contraception is all on the woman.

*BubblyShell22* · 03-26-2012, 03:49 PM

And there's no middle ground when it comes to some religious groups and their mindsets about sex either. It's either wait until marriage or you're considered unclean in their minds.

**Jester** · 03-26-2012, 04:15 PM

As a "religious" person that's total hogwash, Bubbly. I think it's ideal to wait until marriage, but I don't really look down on people who have sexual relationships outside of wedlock, I just wish/hope they do so responsibly.

And if the guy is such a colossal douche that he's not worried about contraception or any other safe sex practices for that matter (because there are more dangers to sex than just potential children) then he's probably not a guy you want to have sex with in the first place.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 03-26-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

There's no middle ground when paternity and contraception is all on the woman.

I thought the "virgin/whore" mentality was supposed to be a bad thing?

*BubblyShell22* · 03-27-2012, 09:12 AM

I fixed my post, Jester. I meant that some religious groups look down on it with no middle ground. I didn't notice my mistake. My bad.

*Hannah* · 03-27-2012, 10:12 AM

Jester, it doesn't matter if *you're* religious and *you're* not like that. You're the exception to the rule.

That's like if I were to say "but not all white people are racist!" You're just derailing the conversation for the sake of "BUT WE'RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT!!!"

*The Stryker* · 03-27-2012, 10:54 AM

You know. For being little miss tolerance and knowledge you sure do attack people's beliefs and lifestyles for no reason at all.

Right. Religious people are the only hateful ones. Sure.

*Hannah* · 03-27-2012, 11:00 AM

No, I never said that. Don't make sh*t up. Christians have historically and systematically oppressed many groups of people- one of those groups being women. I was raised Christian and have a personal and close understanding of the religion and those who practice it. No, not everyone who identifies as religious is hateful. Of course not. But that doesn't matter. That's not relevant to the conversation.

Odd that you suddenly seem to care when you so often pride yourself on being hateful.

**Jester** · 03-27-2012, 03:19 PM

I don't see it as derailing. It's a valid point. The generalization of all Christians as these prudish bigots is as wrong as the generalization that all sexually active people are male and female whores. All generalizations are pointless and only serve to marginalize those being talked about. Making all Christians look like Westboro Baptist Church makes it easier to not take anything we say seriously, just like when Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a "slut" it was an attempt to discredit her and make her argument invalid.

愛 · 03-27-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannah

Odd that you suddenly seem to care when you so often pride yourself on being hateful.

You don't think he actually cares, do you? Man, this thread is so college. lol

*mysterycolor* · 03-27-2012, 03:27 PM

you could always just lock it...

愛 · 03-27-2012, 03:29 PM

Nah, this thread is good. Hannah just thinks her opinion is important. She'll figure things out one day...I hope.

*Hannah* · 03-27-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I don't see it as derailing. It's a valid point. The generalization of all Christians as these prudish bigots is as wrong as the generalization that all sexually active people are male and female whores. All generalizations are pointless and only serve to marginalize those being talked about. Making all Christians look like Westboro Baptist Church makes it easier to not take anything we say seriously, just like when Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a "slut" it was an attempt to discredit her and make her argument invalid.

It's not the same thing because Christians actively oppress people. Women don't oppress anyone when they have sex.

Also, hey Rhen! I'm glad that in your sad little life you at least get the joy of policing a TMNT forum and belittling people who disagree with your violent, misogynistic views while abusing your "power."

*The Stryker* · 03-27-2012, 04:29 PM

So is that your thing now? Anybody that says anything negative in your direction and they're a misogynist?

*Hannah* · 03-27-2012, 04:30 PM

Yep, you've got me.

misandrist
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lyfe

**Jester** · 03-27-2012, 04:34 PM

Right...no woman's ever used sex as a weapon.

And if you wanna talk about religion oppressing others, especially women, why not bring up Islam? Then maybe we could finally drive this thread to closure, which to be honest I'm surprised it hasn't been already.

03-21-2012, 08:22 AM	#61
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Well, I wouldn't know anything about that. Besides, it's just my opinion anyway. I'd rather be in a committed relationship and have sex than just to have sex with some random guy. As for Easy A, I really wanted to see that movie but never got around to it. That movie was all about the girl faking having sex and dealing with people saying that she did when she didn't have sex. I don't see why that's sending a bad message. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

03-26-2012, 11:19 AM	#63
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Fck that noise. Responsible is making sure you use protection and practicing consent. I can sleep with WHOEVER I want WHENEVER I want AS OFTEN as I want and that's totally fine. It's not irresponsible to have multiple partners. That's bullsht. __________________

03-26-2012, 03:49 PM	#66
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	And there's no middle ground when it comes to some religious groups and their mindsets about sex either. It's either wait until marriage or you're considered unclean in their minds. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a*holiness."-Mr. Anderson. Last edited by BubblyShell22; 03-27-2012 at 09:12 AM.*

03-26-2012, 04:15 PM	#67
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	As a "religious" person that's total hogwash, Bubbly. I think it's ideal to wait until marriage, but I don't really look down on people who have sexual relationships outside of wedlock, I just wish/hope they do so responsibly. And if the guy is such a colossal douche that he's not worried about contraception or any other safe sex practices for that matter (because there are more dangers to sex than just potential children) then he's probably not a guy you want to have sex with in the first place. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-27-2012, 09:12 AM	#69
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I fixed my post, Jester. I meant that some religious groups look down on it with no middle ground. I didn't notice my mistake. My bad. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

03-27-2012, 10:12 AM	#70
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Jester, it doesn't matter if you're religious and you're not like that. You're the exception to the rule. That's like if I were to say "but not all white people are racist!" You're just derailing the conversation for the sake of "BUT WE'RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT!!!" __________________ Last edited by Hannah; 03-27-2012 at 10:29 AM.

03-27-2012, 10:54 AM	#71
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	You know. For being little miss tolerance and knowledge you sure do attack people's beliefs and lifestyles for no reason at all. Right. Religious people are the only hateful ones. Sure. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-27-2012, 11:00 AM	#72
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	No, I never said that. Don't make sh*t up. Christians have historically and systematically oppressed many groups of people- one of those groups being women. I was raised Christian and have a personal and close understanding of the religion and those who practice it. No, not everyone who identifies as religious is hateful. Of course not. But that doesn't matter. That's not relevant to the conversation. Odd that you suddenly seem to care when you so often pride yourself on being hateful. __________________

03-27-2012, 03:19 PM	#73
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I don't see it as derailing. It's a valid point. The generalization of all Christians as these prudish bigots is as wrong as the generalization that all sexually active people are male and female whores. All generalizations are pointless and only serve to marginalize those being talked about. Making all Christians look like Westboro Baptist Church makes it easier to not take anything we say seriously, just like when Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a "slut" it was an attempt to discredit her and make her argument invalid. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-27-2012, 03:27 PM	#75
mysterycolor t-u-r-t-l-e seller!! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,481	you could always just lock it... __________________ mysterycolor TMNT ebay auctions- http://bit.ly/mysterycolor mysterycolor's basement auctions- bit.ly/mysterybasement

03-27-2012, 03:29 PM	#76
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Nah, this thread is good. Hannah just thinks her opinion is important. She'll figure things out one day...I hope.

03-27-2012, 04:29 PM	#78
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	So is that your thing now? Anybody that says anything negative in your direction and they're a misogynist? __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-27-2012, 04:30 PM	#79
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Yep, you've got me. misandrist 4 lyfe __________________

03-27-2012, 04:34 PM	#80
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Right...no woman's ever used sex as a weapon. And if you wanna talk about religion oppressing others, especially women, why not bring up Islam? Then maybe we could finally drive this thread to closure, which to be honest I'm surprised it hasn't been already. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656