Director FINALLY Comments On TMNT Aliens Issue

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

No matter how much people like to talk about the 2 or 3 episodes that are vaguely based on Mirage comics and tell you the whole series was like that, the 4Kids series on the whole is like 99.9% non-Mirage material.

I think you're selling 4kids show a bit short here. There's a number of episodes that I'd say are very faithful to the Mirage comic counterpart. Granted it's stuff like "Kirby and the Warp Crystal", "The People's Choice", "Return of Savanti" and the like which wouldn't have much of a problem portraying on a Saturday Morning level but I'd say quite a few were faithful enough.

Even "I Monster" was done faithfuly but stretched out to fill an entire episode. You could argue so was "Sons of the Silent Age" which again probably needed something to pad the ep out, sadly robbing it of it's orignal meaning but then Murphy also did the same in followups to that story in comic form.

Surely you don't begrudge them coming up with original content and twists?

I soldiered through a bunch of it and was really looking forward to the 4Kids "Return to New York," too. I finally arrived at it and found it to be horribly unwatchable to me... like some kind of toy cavalcade of utter nonsense. I wasn't expecting any kind of bloody mayhem or anything like that, but at least something tonally similar, but there's just nothing of the sort there (despite people loving to overstate the "ZOMG, but can you believe they let Leo decapitate an android, even though we see it pick up its own head like 5 seconds later? that was totally Mirage gritty!").

The first two seasons arn't necessarily the best to judge. I appreciate the first season in particular but it's very hamfisted in it's tone with the one liners and it's sad but necessary product placement.

The better and more "gritty" (as far as the show can go) elements generaly do occur in the original stories that dominate the third and fourth seasons.

That being said I do find season 1's "Shredder Strikes Back" to be arguebly better the comic version. Part 2 is par with #10 and at Leo is seen to actualy struggle in 4kids version whereas Leonardo #1 unrealisticaly makes it seem Leo is dispatching an army of Foot Ninja with ease until he spots Shredder and his defeat happens completely off panel.

Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

I think it's more than obvious that the following occurred when Bay spoke his now infamous lines:

1) Bay doesn't know a ton about the mythology, and he made a comment that he "thought" was generally "correct", however he didn't realize just how incorrect his phrasing of his statement was

2) Bay's comments were taken directly out of context because he knows damn well that by them being "alien", he was referring to the ooze coming from the Utroms, and therefore ultimately, the Turtles existence is directly tied to Aliens.

Either way - I'm 99% sure and confident (based on comments made by the director since), that they will not be CHANGING anything about the origin. Instead, they will add additional backstory/details to flesh out the origin and the story they are going to tell.

I think everyone can relax on this now....

Is it possible they screw everything up - sure....but like I said....I think there is roughly a 1% chance of that happening.

or...

3) He wanted to get people in an unroar to draw fan and press attention to the film by saying something deliberately provactive.

While the directors statement did put people at he still hasn't actualy confirmed or denied the whole thing invited more speculation.

I'd say there's more than a 1% chance of them screwing everything up. It'd say there's a good chance of screwing up everything up even if they get origin right.

Originally Posted by herugrim

Guess I'm the only one who likes to wait until the film comes out to pass judgement.

Also, the original mirage comics are highly overrated. Deviating from them is more likely to be an improvement, though it could easily go either way. Just because it may be different doesn't mean it's bad. That's prejudice.

I think waiting to pass any judgement is impossible. It's natural if we hear news about the movie it's going to inspire some feeling in fans. Sure we could wait to make final judgement untill after we've seen it but as I've said before I think it's important to make our feelings known now when there's still a slim chance we can influence the powers that be.

I wouldn't say deviating from the Mirage books always leads to improvements, "City at War" anyone? The people behind this movie don't exactly engender a lot of faith that any deviation they make from pre-established turtle lore will be an improvement.