Should Nick's TMNT series adapt Archie comics stories? - Page 2

*Zany Orange Dude* · 04-10-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

If they did adapt the stories they'd probably have to leave out all the Middle Eastern stuff. I doubt that would be risked on a children's cartoon show in today's political climate.

You can say that again! Nick would be sued before the cartoon even made it on the air!

*ToTheNines* · 04-10-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zany Orange Dude

You can say that again! Nick would be sued before the cartoon even made it on the air!

Sued by whom?

*Zany Orange Dude* · 04-10-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Sued by whom?

Wait a minute, maybe I misinterpreted that, I am not sure? I thought he meant for being considered politically incorrect or offensive.

*Xav* · 04-10-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I mean, parts of what we know about the Nick series already is slightly Archie-esque (April training to be a she-ninja, Splinter being Hamato Yoshi and having an extend backstory as such) so why not finally adapt some of the better Archie issues?

Is April training to be a ninja really Archie-esque? Didn't she also do the same thing in the 4Kids series and the 2007 film?

**Jester** · 04-10-2012, 04:06 PM

Archie did it first...

*CyberCubed* · 04-10-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

Is April training to be a ninja really Archie-esque? Didn't she also do the same thing in the 4Kids series and the 2007 film?

You do realize the Archie issues were released in the 90's, right? The 4kids series and 4th movie borrowed the idea from that.

Even in Mirage April didn't really do any fighting until Vol. 4.

*Xav* · 04-10-2012, 05:57 PM

Yes I know that. But how do you know they didn't get the idea from the newer show or movie?

*ToTheNines* · 04-10-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

Yes I know that. But how do you know they didn't get the idea from the newer show or movie?

But how do you know they didn't get the idea from the Archie books?

*Xav* · 04-10-2012, 06:23 PM

I don't, but April doing martial arts isn't solely an Archie thing. Almost every modern version has her doing it. That's like saying having colored masks makes it Fred Wolf-esque. If you want to get technical, than having Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, is actually Fred Wolf-esque not Archie-esque.

*Cure* · 04-10-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

That's like saying having colored masks makes it Fred Wolf-esque. If you want to get technical, than having Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, is actually Fred Wolf-esque not Archie-esque.

Uh, all those things are right, actually. Not making a great point.

**Jester** · 04-10-2012, 06:46 PM

True, but Archie seemed to do more with the "Splinter used to be Hamato Yoshi" stuff.

*Xav* · 04-10-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

Uh, all those things are right, actually. Not making a great point.

How does ninja April make it Archie-esque, but Splinter/Yoshi doesn't make it Fred Wolf-esque?

**Jester** · 04-10-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

How does ninja April make it Archie-esque, but Splinter/Yoshi doesn't make it Fred Wolf-esque?

You're right, Splinter is Hamato Yoshi is a FW-ism, but a lot more seems to be made of Yoshi's past as Hamato Yoshi in the Archie books. FW did it at times, but there were whole arcs in the Archie series that played up Yoshi's past in Japan and traveling the world.

*CyberCubed* · 04-10-2012, 07:13 PM

Plus the series finale of Archie, "Year of the Turtle" actually had Splinter de-mutate into Hamato Yoshi again.

**Jester** · 04-10-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Plus the series finale of Archie, "Year of the Turtle" actually had Splinter de-mutate into Hamato Yoshi again.

Temporarily. He was reverting back to a rat.

*CyberCubed* · 04-10-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Temporarily. He was reverting back to a rat.

Yes. That story brings tears to my eyes every time I read it, as it was the last Archie story ever published.

Although to be fair every time a Turtle universe ends it gets me a little. The original cartoon's last episode seeing the Technodrome all abandoned and destroyed, April/Casey's wedding and Turtles Forever in the 4kids series, "Year of the Turtle" for Archie, and those Future/old Turtle stories from the Mirage universe.

So sad to see a Turtle universe end.

*Galactus* · 04-10-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

Or they could even adapt some of the UK exclusive Hero comics along the way since they are in the same canon there. I especially would like to see Ray Fillet. There were even some other storybooks, such as the Magic Crystal that never existed in comic book nor animated form.

The original stories the UK Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles Adventures are not the same canon as the Archie series. Not even close.

I'm pretty sure Magic Crystal story to which you're referring is an adaption of Donatello #1 story Kirby and the Warp Crystal later adapted in the 4kids show The King, hence my avatar <<<.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think we all just want to see Armaggon animated. It's bizarre that a cool shark mutant from the future is relegated to the comics and one videogame instead o being a major character in a show.

I know that when I was a kid I thought Armaggon was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I wonder if his cult popularity has to do with how little he's been used in various media. But yes, a mutant shark from the future that shoots missiles from his shoulders deserves an episode or two dedicated to him.

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If they did adapt the stories they'd probably have to leave out all the Middle Eastern stuff. I doubt that would be risked on a children's cartoon show in today's political climate.

Very good point. To me the Archie turtles did too much travelling in general anyway. The trip home from Brazil was fine, the one from Japan dragged a bit but was fine...then they ended up Israel

It seems they could never stay in NY for long before they were off elsewhere. These long trips away wouldn't have been bad if they had spent more time at home inbetween.

*Cure* · 04-10-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

How does ninja April make it Archie-esque, but Splinter/Yoshi doesn't make it Fred Wolf-esque?

Uh, what? You're not getting what I said. You said it's FW "esque". It is.

*Xav* · 04-10-2012, 08:23 PM

Than you said I wasn't making a great point.

*Cure* · 04-10-2012, 08:54 PM

I just meant your examples were poor.

04-10-2012, 04:06 PM	#25
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Archie did it first... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

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Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045	I don't, but April doing martial arts isn't solely an Archie thing. Almost every modern version has her doing it. That's like saying having colored masks makes it Fred Wolf-esque. If you want to get technical, than having Splinter being Hamato Yoshi, is actually Fred Wolf-esque not Archie-esque. Last edited by Xav; 04-10-2012 at 06:33 PM.

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	True, but Archie seemed to do more with the "Splinter used to be Hamato Yoshi" stuff. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

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Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I just meant your examples were poor. __________________

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Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045	Yes I know that. But how do you know they didn't get the idea from the newer show or movie?

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Plus the series finale of Archie, "Year of the Turtle" actually had Splinter de-mutate into Hamato Yoshi again.

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Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045	Than you said I wasn't making a great point.