Karai to be in new comic?

[TurtleMaster4]

So guys, what do you think, will Karai be in the new comic. Will she be shredders Daughter like in the 4 kids series? And lastly, what side do you want her to end up on, the good guy or the bad guys

Sorry if the poll is confusing.

[Andrew NDB]

Definitely.

[MikeandRaph87]

I only just learned she was not Shredder's step-daughter outside of the 2003 cartoon having only known her from Berger's synopsis beforehand and the one video game and for that reason its kind of the way I see her. I like the conflicted character. I am one who likes character studies which is why I would like to see Slash. Karai is another one that would have a lot of characterization in store especially if she is Shredder's step-daughter.

[ZariusTwo]

She should be something she's never been before

Like a...car or something.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

She should be something she's never been before

Like a...car or something.

You mean she should get a part in a remake of this?

[ZariusTwo]

"Karai I need ya buddy"

[Candy Kappa]

If she is in the IDW comic, I hope they stay away from the 4kids version, far, far away.

[Dirty Blond]

Welcome back, ZariusTwo!

I would like to see Karai in the IDW world, for sure, but I'd like to see her more evil than even Shredder.

[CyberCubed]

Alopex is Karai reincarnated from 500 years ago.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

If she is in the IDW comic, I hope they stay away from the 4kids version, far, far away.

Really? I appreciated the complexity of the character as seen in the 2003 cartoon and well, I thought that was how she was depicted in the Mirage Comics. How is she different in the Mirage Comics or at least more towards you preference?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

Really? I appreciated the complexity of the character as seen in the 2003 cartoon and well, I thought that was how she was depicted in the Mirage Comics. How is she different in the Mirage Comics or at least more towards you preference?

Let's go with... credibility? Just for starters.

[ZariusTwo]

I had a bit of a problem with Karai going from chaotic neutral to outright bad in the 4Kids cartoon, it just didnt gel with the way her comics character had been portrayed...and then I was equally dismayed when Laird started turning her into a corrupt b*tch in the MIRAGE comics (to the point her future is pretty sad and grim for, seemingly, the SAKE of being sad and grim)

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

Really? I appreciated the complexity of the character as seen in the 2003 cartoon and well, I thought that was how she was depicted in the Mirage Comics. How is she different in the Mirage Comics or at least more towards you preference?

What Andrew and Zarius wrote

4Kids Karai is a very flat character, and she feels less insignificant as Shredder's adoptive daughter.

The flaky attitude with honor and loyalty was poorly handled and felt more like lazy writing then actual character interaction.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

What Andrew and Zarius wrote

4Kids Karai is a very flat character, and she feels less insignificant as Shredder's adoptive daughter.

The flaky attitude with honor and loyalty was poorly handled and felt more like lazy writing then actual character interaction.

Wow,I see it the opposite. To Me it had heavy characterization for a cartoon and the personal conflict one felt dealing with honor. It seemed to be handled well to me. Honor the father figure that gave her everything even if she knows its wrong or do the right thing her heart is tellig her. I thought she was complex and that is why I liked the cartoon atleast the 2003 cartoon which is what made me aware of her beyond just knowing of her. Those that know of her as something other than Shredder's daughter I understand the idea of forcing a connection that is felt is uneeded and therfore in your eyes may not work. In this case I think it does but its the eye of the beholder and perhaps part of how intrdouced or when seen how works the best.

[Andrew NDB]

To look at it another way:

In Mirage she's a strong independant woman who is in the shadow of no man, who leads the entire Foot Clan from the Japan HQ. She has a large character arc. No relation to Shredder.

In 4Kids she's the "daughter" of Shredder and constantly in his shadow, serving only his needs and interests. She has no character arc to speak of... just random nonsense-of-the-week.

[marcelangelo]

I on the very same page as mikeandraph87....I only ever knew about her role in the orginal comics from the story synopsis of comics I could never read(back then I had no computer and internet was not there)...
I can see andrews position here though I have always seen it much more in tune wirh the japanese traditions in samurai culture..the father being her lord sort of...and with a DAUGHTER following the father even more unusual than if it was a son this was a really interesting twist for the two of them...and feeling obligated to act in the interest of someone you know(but maybe don't want to open your eyes to the fact) is doing not the right thing...the thing that may felt 'lazy' about it at times to me was her dialogue...maybe that is what ruines the image of this different version of the character?
speaking of lazy:as much as I enjoyed master splinter's voice in that cartoon you cannot ignore the fact that the voice actor was constantly delivering his lines in the exact same rythm...that could get silly sometimes for me at least...

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

To look at it another way:

In Mirage she's a strong independant woman who is in the shadow of no man, who leads the entire Foot Clan from the Japan HQ. She has a large character arc. No relation to Shredder.

In 4Kids she's the "daughter" of Shredder and constantly in his shadow, serving only his needs and interests. She has no character arc to speak of... just random nonsense-of-the-week.

you wrote it a lot better. 4Kids made a strong independent female character into something unrecognizable and just flat

[DarkLightDragon]

I can see Karai coming to the comic, but not for a while since it seems too soon to introduce her when we're possibly going to see more of the conflict between the Shredder and Kraang soon.


As for her 4kids incarnation, the only thing that really irked me about her was her whole 'revenge' thing in Season 4.

I mean, yes Karai, I get you being honor-bond by him because he gave you more of purpose in life, but the guy made no hesitation when he was about to kill you for stopping him from killing the Turtles back in 'Exodus Part 2.' Do you really want to avenge someone like that, coupled with the fact that you heard with your very own ears of the crimes he commited across the universe and really believe the Utroms are a bunch of heartless hunters when you've seen more of what you're master is capable of?

[Andrew NDB]

And let's not even bring up the movie-verse Karai...

... who can apparently get knocked out by April O'Neil.

[marcelangelo]

I quote the bible:..and he saw that it sucked.