Do you think Turtles Forever is canon to the OT?

[TurtleFan2012]

Does the movie take place between season 1 and 2 of the old toon because the 80's turtles are their goofy selves? What do you guys think?

[gobo]

Nope. It's a similar world, but not quite the same.

[Candy Kappa]

yes, but their memory was erased, so no one remember anything. and the moral of the story was completely lost

Wait, that's the Pokemon movie...

[TurtleFan2012]

I wonder what the REAL 1987 Shredder would think of the 2003 Shredder? There's no way in heck they would allow Ch'rell to boss them around. Krang and OT shredder made a fool out of Dregg, they should had put up a fight.

A part of me wants the movie to be canon and the other part is disappointed at how the OT characters were handled.

[Killer Moth]

Originally Posted by TurtleFan2012

I wonder what the REAL 1987 Shredder would think of the 2003 Shredder? There's no way in heck they would allow Ch'rell to boss them around. Krang and OT shredder made a fool out of Dregg, they should had put up a fight.

A part of me wants the movie to be canon and the other part is disappointed at how the OT characters were handled.

Agreed. Yet, I did like 87 Shredder saying "why don't you just shoot them" to Ch'rell. (Then, he got pimp-slapped. Hah...) Or, I would have expected the pair to make a subtle attempt by themselves to take the Technodrome back, rather than joining Karai's Zerg Rush, but hey, whatever.

I'll go with gobo, in that it feels like an extra alternative reality to the 87 series. If you go by the silliness and setting, I'd personally put it in Season 3. Season 3 was when the silliness really started and what casual fans usually recall other than Season 1. Which makes sense, since Season 3 was when the series' popularity really took off.

Your last sentence sums up my take (one half of me likes it, while the other half doesn't for that reason). Oh, well.

[ZariusTwo]

For me, it's a direct continuation of the original cartoon's universe. Dismissing it as an alternate reality is lazy and shows people would rather demonstrate a lack of imagination than take the time and effort to share ideas on how certain things are as they are. I've come up with a gajillion ways of lining up the dots and relished the creativity in doing so.

[Nintendophile]

Originally Posted by Killer Moth

I'll go with gobo, in that it feels like an extra alternative reality to the 87 series.

What you and Gobo just said makes me feel about 300 times better! I never thought about it that way! Now I can just tell myself that it wasn't "really" the '87 turtles, just another alternate dimension of the '87 Turtles.

Honestly, without a hint of hyperbole, I feel a sense of relief being able to "justify" it this way. lol.

[Icebot]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

For me, it's a direct continuation of the original cartoon's universe.

I agree. I always thought Turtles Forever takes place after season 10. And Turtles Forever ended with the upgraded version of the Technodrome. There's no way Shredder and Krang in their right mind would give up all that extra power to have it stuck in the earth's core or Dimension X again. They hated having the Technodrome unable to move.

[sdp]

Yes it's set in the same world it's obvious they didn't do a crossover movie with a "similar but not quite the OT" what the hell kind of marketing is that and yes the characters act totally out of character but just like animation errors in the OT we have to deal with it.

[Mona_Lisa]

I basically liked Turtles forever, but I do think they made the OT turtles goofier than they ever were…… They did something’s quite well though, I think we all like Raphael breaking the 4th wall and driving Hun nuts…. Lol!!!!! Good stuff….
I loved Donatellos flashlight portable portal stick…..but thought they made him seem really ….(I wana say gay, what’s the politically correct way to say this? Lol) when he’s talking to the new Don about using his imagination… That was so not like the OT Donatello! Grrrr…..
I think the biggest problem I had though was the “wet willies” That was Not from the cartoon!!!!! Seriuosly….

[TurtleFan2012]

Anyone annoyed that 2003 Ralph kept disrespecting the 80's turtles, telling them they have no brains? I wanted to punch the 2003 Ralph for that remark. Donny in the OT was WAAY smarter than him. For his information, the 80's turtles saved the world from Shredder and Dregg loooong before he was created, so 2003 Ralph needs to put a sock in it.

[Dirty Blond]

More like cannon fodder.

I believe it is canon to the OT, but is it canon to Mirage as well?

[LeoNerdo]

Originally Posted by TurtleFan2012

Anyone annoyed that 2003 Ralph kept disrespecting the 80's turtles, telling them they have no brains? I wanted to punch the 2003 Ralph for that remark. Donny in the OT was WAAY smarter than him. For his information, the 80's turtles saved the world from Shredder and Dregg loooong before he was created, so 2003 Ralph needs to put a sock in it.

Remind me which one was Ralph again? I'm just teasing.

That was the main complaint about the movie, that they way they went out of their way to make the OT look even dumber than it really was. That and the voices are different. I like to think of it as 'canon' but the voices throw me for a loop and it doesn't really fit.

[cammy85]

Originally Posted by LeoNerdo

Remind me which one was Ralph again? I'm just teasing.

That was the main complaint about the movie, that they way they went out of their way to make the OT look even dumber than it really was. That and the voices are different. I like to think of it as 'canon' but the voices throw me for a loop and it doesn't really fit.

I know!! And the idea of TF being a continuation is a good idea. At the end of "Turtle Trek", after destroying the Technodrome (kinda), they mentioned it still wasn't the last of them, and they'll never win if they do come back. So I can see things continuing even after Dregg's "death".

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

No way. It's just a "What if they met", and should not be taken seriously for any TMNT universe.

[Mr.Turtle]

i like it. it is exactly wut i had in mind the way as it came out. NT FTW!

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Sure it's canon. Why not? It's not like they are going to continue the OT anyway (and if they ever do, it'll likely be more one shot stuff like this).

I think it's best to not worry about canon too much, and just enjoy the stories that you like. Take it from a DC Comics fan, worrying too much about canon will make your brain explode.

[Fugitoid Jones]

I consider it to be canon. I mean, if the darker tone of the Red Sky seasons is considered canon, and that was a big change from the previous seasons, then why can't T.F.'s goofier take on the Fred Wolf Turtles be canon? They went through several different tone changes before, this was just another one.

[SherlockJr]

I consider it canon too; the OT was never very considerate of its own canon anyhow.

[Logan]

Nope. I don't consider it canon to the OT or Mirage. And this is coming from someone who loves crossover stories. PL seems to share my sentiments as well with respect to Mirage.