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Old 06-19-2012, 08:10 AM   #41
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What the hell?!
I never ...
dafuq I just watch?
Gridlock looked like one of the putzs from Saved By the Bell. Now I'm gonna be reminded of this whenever I see the Metrolink trains.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:39 AM   #42
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The majority of the fanbase.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:42 AM   #43
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Utrom Shredder (or Secret Origins, as that storyarc is called)
Yeah, i thought it is was pretty stupid that they made shredder an utrom. i feel like they only did that to revive interest in the show
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:06 AM   #44
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The European Vacation episodes...
I liked those for the most part. I did not like Northern Lights Out! but Shredder's New Sword and Ring of Fire were great among them.

In reference to April as a drawing Peter told me once that two things bothered him the most during his tenure alone at the helm. One was Shredder as an utrom convict and the other was April revealed to being an inked drawing. The Chr'ell twist grew on him while the April drawing bit he disliked more and more as time went on. The latter so much so he likes to think of Robyn as the older sister to block out the idea that the older April was a child drawing to a childless couple.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:47 AM   #45
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Yeah, i thought it is was pretty stupid that they made shredder an utrom. i feel like they only did that to revive interest in the show
Revive interest in the show? What the hell? The show was only in its second season when Utrom Shredder was revealed and it was something that was planned from the beginning.

The Fast Forward revamp was when they were trying to boost ratings/toy sales for the show.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:04 AM   #46
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hhhmmm....unfortunately I have never gotten the chance to read the original series accept 1-17 of the mirage volume 1, but my least favorite thing in TMNT in general I have to say some of the OT episodes such as Mr.ogg and a few others.....The OT would have had more staying power if it had the tone and action of the pilot episodes through out the whole series...., but simply my opinion
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:16 PM   #47
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Volume Four is awesome. The p eople who hate on it are just those with a very strong impaitence and low tolerance for decompressed storytelling, a lack of imagination, a fear of change, and overall they just wanted to bash Pete for any reason because they COULD, they were spoiled brats who didnt get what THEY wanted.
How about a less than bare amount of ninja stuff?

I'm not totally opposed to Vol. 4, there's some interesting ideas in it, but I didn't think there was much payoff for the fan base.

And for a comic that's survival was dependent on the fans, I think we/they are entitled to some degree of fan service.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:14 PM   #48
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Volume Four is awesome. The p eople who hate on it are just those with a very strong impaitence and low tolerance for decompressed storytelling, a lack of imagination, a fear of change, and overall they just wanted to bash Pete for any reason because they COULD, they were spoiled brats who didnt get what THEY wanted.

I'll pick April's origin, Mikey's space quest, vampires, gamera Raph, microscopic Utroms and Karai's weird affairs over IDW's shlock anyday.
You know, I've heard people give plenty of reasoned explanations why they don't care for volume 4, but you've yet to explain why you have such a rage-on for the IDW series....just sayin'.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:23 PM   #49
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i think it is unfortunate the the christmas special & PSAs get so much flack- they are adorable and a great memory of what it was like to be a kid in the 90's... i will jump in and agree that NM is just miserable, poor acting, poor story lines, poor merchandise... yuck!
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:32 PM   #50
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i will jump in and agree that NM is just miserable, poor acting, poor story lines, poor merchandise... yuck!
I actually really liked the first wave of NM figures.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:49 PM   #51
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Yeah, i thought it is was pretty stupid that they made shredder an utrom. i feel like they only did that to revive interest in the show
Season 1 of the 2003 show rocks. We don't know anything until "Secret Origins III" on 31 January 2004.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:02 PM   #52
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I don't really get ALL of the hate for The Next Mutation and the third movie. I mean they aren't THAT bad.
The Next Mutation was just boring to me. I just couldn't get into it. I didn't see it back when it was on Fox Kids, so I streamed it on Netflix. I only made it up to the 15th episode before I decided to call it quits.

I guess the third TMNT movie is okay for what it is, but it's the one movie that I'm just not compelled to have in my collection.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:18 PM   #53
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The Next Mutation was just boring to me. I just couldn't get into it. I didn't see it back when it was on Fox Kids, so I streamed it on Netflix. I only made it up to the 15th episode before I decided to call it quits.
Considering it's only 26 episodes, you watched more than half of them...
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:21 PM   #54
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Considering it's only 26 episodes, you watched more than half of them...
My goal was to watch all 26 of them. I'm not even sure I fully enjoyed the majority of the episodes I watched.

I'm just not a Next Mutation fan. Period.
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This may come as a shock to some people, but I never cared much for Ninjara. She was such a one-dimensional character and they kept re-writing her personality. She had no real continuity.
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Ninjara is the same problem of all "added" sidekicks after April/Casey, they kind of feel shoe-horned in after awhile.

I don't mind the Turtles having recurring friends, but if they start to get added to the main cast much in the same way Carter was in the last two seasons, it just feels odd and forced.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:51 PM   #57
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I actually really liked the first wave of NM figures.
they are pretty mediocre imho and not just compared to other tmnt figures, but action figures in general... and talk about lame variants? ooooo give venus pants and a skateboard! wait leo has a head scarf!?! how'd they come up with this stuff...
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:07 AM   #58
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It was a compelling plot twist... with no compelling follow-through. I see no evidence in the latter part of Vol. 4 that there was ever any kind of real long-term plan for it.
This is my most prominent misgiving with Volume 4. I love, love most of its ideas. But the execution is majorly lacking. There's no follow-through, and I've become increasingly convinced over the years that Laird never actually knew where he was going.

And then there's the dialogue, which, the less said about ... the more opposite it would be to anything that happened in Volume 4.

Anyway, I was tempted to come in here and say The Next Mutation, which I believe is still the most incompetent run of fiction to ever involve the Turtles.

But my honest answer? Years of mismanagement with the franchise.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:11 AM   #59
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But my honest answer? Years of mismanagement with the franchise.
Good call on that one.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:38 AM   #60
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It's a toss up between We Wish You A Turtle Christmas and April's vol.4 origin. WWYATC is really hard to watch, almost as hard to watch as the Star Wars Holiday Special. And April's vol.4 origin actually angers me I dislike it so much. I'm all for change and shaking things up, but this felt too unnescesarily coincidental that the crystal that Kirby used to draw things to life was the same crystal that created April, who would go on to befriend mutant turtles and a mutant rat.
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