What do you think is the worst thing in TMNT history? - Page 4

**Jester** · 06-20-2012, 02:46 AM

I just wonder why April aged. Artwork doesn't age...unless it's a certain portrait.

*Spitfire* · 06-20-2012, 04:30 AM

Tough call really. There's been some pretty horrible stuff. Things that make me embarrassed to say I'm a fan. I'd have to go with Turtles 3 though. Of all the bad things it's the most well known. I get some people like it for whatever reason but the film has no redeeming qualities to me. It's almost clear from the second you see the turtles that no one involved gave a crap. Sure they might have cared at first but as time went on with the lazy performances, bad script, and horrid special effects you can tell even the actors themselves didn't want to be there.

Just to test out I showed a group of friends who don't know my opinion on the films Turtles 2 and then right after 3. They laughed their way through 2 but 10 minutes into 3 they asked me to turn it off. Their reaction was basically "Wtf is this crap?" Which happened about 5 seconds after that horrid Splinter puppet comes out. I worshiped the turtles as a kid and even then as a young child I hated 3. That really tells me something. The experience of seeing it in the theater pissed me off so bad I've literary blocked out most of the film from memory. Any time I've attempted to watch it again I don't get very far.

**Jester** · 06-20-2012, 04:41 AM

Anyone who doesn't like TMNT III is a whiny, self-important film buff wanna be, who has no sense of wonder or imagination and probably still lives with their parents and is totally a virgin....

Man...how does Zarius type this stuff with a straight face?

*pannoni1* · 06-20-2012, 07:48 AM

At least they used the then state-of-the-art Windows 3.1 for some of the effects, but considering how much in the spotlight Turtles III received, it really spread how much of a failure that movie was, and started to turn more and more people against TMNT. Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas came out at a time when fewer people cared about the Turtles, feeling that Power Rangers was far superior. Still, at least TMNT brought the attention of the turtles traveling to ancient Japan to the masses, as it was recently introduced in #46 and #47, and spawned the Legend of Koji episode. Season 9 of the OT and most of Fast Forward and parts of Back to the Sewer are dishonorable mentions as well, really killing those shows. Turtle Tunes I'd say is the absolute worst though: the singing is so bad, but not quite bad enough that you can't really make a joke about it.

As for April's Vol. 4 origin, I think the writers were trying to make a joke that IT'S ONLY A CARTOON!

*ssjup81* · 06-20-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

At least they used the then state-of-the-art Windows 3.1 for some of the effects, but considering how much in the spotlight Turtles III received, it really spread how much of a failure that movie was, and started to turn more and more people against TMNT. Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas came out at a time when fewer people cared about the Turtles, feeling that Power Rangers was far superior. Still, at least TMNT brought the attention of the turtles traveling to ancient Japan to the masses, as it was recently introduced in #46 and #47, and spawned the Legend of Koji episode. Season 9 of the OT and most of Fast Forward and parts of Back to the Sewer are dishonorable mentions as well, really killing those shows. Turtle Tunes I'd say is the absolute worst though: the singing is so bad, but not quite bad enough that you can't really make a joke about it.

Even though I dislike movie III, I will admit that the set up wasn't such a bad idea. The setting either, for that matter. The idea of the Turtles going to ancient Japan was actually a neat idea. The problem is that, though a good premise, the execution was bad. Even if they couldn't use Krang and the others, it would've been nice if the movie played like it did in the Turtles in Time game...maybe, and if they are going to be in Japan, why did they make them samurai as opposed to ninja? Okay, I can overlook that, but the movie was still awful compared to the other two.

Like I mentioned before, movie 3 felt like a movie about Japan and they tossed the turtles in to remind us that it was their movie. It's like that horrible Dragon Ball Evolution movie. They tossed in Dragon Balls to remind us that it was supposed to have been a Dragon Ball movie. It would've worked better as a plain old fighting movie (and ditch the Dragon Ball stuff), but I went in with no expectations. I had many expectations for Turtles III.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-20-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

This may come as a shock to some people, but I never cared much for Ninjara. She was such a one-dimensional character and they kept re-writing her personality. She had no real continuity.

Sh'e still a cool character. A problem what that Asia in Archie seemd to have a lot of talking animals, who weren't anything like mutants or aliens, just born that way.

*Storm Eagle* · 06-20-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Anyone who doesn't like TMNT III is a whiny, self-important film buff wanna be, who has no sense of wonder or imagination and probably still lives with their parents and is totally a virgin....

Man...how does Zarius type this stuff with a straight face?

You're taking peoples' dislike for the movie a bit too seriously. It's not like we insulted those who do like it.

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

At least they used the then state-of-the-art Windows 3.1 for some of the effects, but considering how much in the spotlight Turtles III received, it really spread how much of a failure that movie was, and started to turn more and more people against TMNT. Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas came out at a time when fewer people cared about the Turtles, feeling that Power Rangers was far superior. Still, at least TMNT brought the attention of the turtles traveling to ancient Japan to the masses, as it was recently introduced in #46 and #47, and spawned the Legend of Koji episode. Season 9 of the OT and most of Fast Forward and parts of Back to the Sewer are dishonorable mentions as well, really killing those shows. Turtle Tunes I'd say is the absolute worst though: the singing is so bad, but not quite bad enough that you can't really make a joke about it.

My only problem with Fast Forward was how they aired it before the fifth season. Who the hell does that? I remember how I'd just tape the episodes and save them to watch later for whenever I'd get a chance to see the fifth season. I got to see the fifth season somewhere before it actually aired on TV here in the US. After that I got the DVDs since they were already out by then.

I remember when my interest in Ninja Turtles lost to Power Rangers. The last time I watched an episode when it was on TV was during its seventh season. Before that though, I saw TMNT III in theaters, and got Turtles in Time for the SNES. My interest was renewed when the 2K3 series started, and kept up with it. I found myself buying the DVDs, the video games, and also bought the DVDs for the 80s series and the first two movies.

*Drose18* · 06-20-2012, 04:56 PM

Michael Bay, definiteley Michael Bay.

**Jester** · 06-20-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

You're taking peoples' dislike for the movie a bit too seriously. It's not like we insulted those who do like it.

Francis The Lost Turtle · 06-20-2012, 05:49 PM

For me it would have to be the character redesigns for the Back To The Sewers season.

Killer Moth · 06-20-2012, 06:01 PM

Character-wise, it's a toss-up between April in Vol. 4, Karai's bizarre characterization ("I slept with Casey Jones, because..., why?" and, later, "I kidnap babies in the FUTURA!") and the Rat King's "origin." In terms of the latter, it answered a question no one asked.

El Goonish Shive did a good job going there, so go read:

http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-04-26

Or for more heinous things, the Mutanimals being killed off, because their animated series didn't materalize. We had Terracide, which is great, but was it worth all the bloodshed? Do what most writers do -- let your characters languish in obscurity. Beats killing them off viciously.

In terms of writing, TMNT Adventures' heavy-handed politics in certain matters for me. Some issues, I no longer re-read (such as issue #40), because I don't want my intelligence insulted. Plus, life is too short.

Regardless, it's all a subjective standard, and what may be the worst thing evah to one, may be a minor irritation to another.

joetheripper · 06-20-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie DBERG

Michael Bay, definiteley Michael Bay.

made me laugh a bit. thank you!

*Storm Eagle* · 06-21-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/PDVD_040-1.jpg

I was hoping it was, even though I don't really like some of the things said as a joke.

*Candy Kappa* · 06-21-2012, 03:37 AM

If you read the last sentence in that post, it's pretty obvious it was a silly joke

Cryomancer · 06-21-2012, 04:08 AM

That guy in the old show who sang those terrible songs.

*ZariusTwo* · 06-21-2012, 05:50 AM

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Man...how does Zarius type this stuff with a straight face?

Do you have anything better to do than to target me for your own failings in life?

**Jester** · 06-21-2012, 05:58 AM

Says the guy who has been temp banned more times than he's been laid....

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-21-2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryomancer

That guy in the old show who sang those terrible songs.

You mean Howie Hardy, Irma's boyfriend in "Name That Toon".

*CyberCubed* · 06-21-2012, 02:38 PM

In terms of characters there have always been crappy one-off characters in every series, but as said they were such minor characters it didn't matter.

The good thing is the core cast and major villains are usually good.

*Slap-Happy* · 06-21-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Says the guy who has been temp banned more times than he's been laid....

06-20-2012, 02:46 AM	#61
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I just wonder why April aged. Artwork doesn't age...unless it's a certain portrait. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

06-20-2012, 04:30 AM	#62
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Tough call really. There's been some pretty horrible stuff. Things that make me embarrassed to say I'm a fan. I'd have to go with Turtles 3 though. Of all the bad things it's the most well known. I get some people like it for whatever reason but the film has no redeeming qualities to me. It's almost clear from the second you see the turtles that no one involved gave a crap. Sure they might have cared at first but as time went on with the lazy performances, bad script, and horrid special effects you can tell even the actors themselves didn't want to be there. Just to test out I showed a group of friends who don't know my opinion on the films Turtles 2 and then right after 3. They laughed their way through 2 but 10 minutes into 3 they asked me to turn it off. Their reaction was basically "Wtf is this crap?" Which happened about 5 seconds after that horrid Splinter puppet comes out. I worshiped the turtles as a kid and even then as a young child I hated 3. That really tells me something. The experience of seeing it in the theater pissed me off so bad I've literary blocked out most of the film from memory. Any time I've attempted to watch it again I don't get very far. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

06-20-2012, 04:41 AM	#63
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Anyone who doesn't like TMNT III is a whiny, self-important film buff wanna be, who has no sense of wonder or imagination and probably still lives with their parents and is totally a virgin.... Man...how does Zarius type this stuff with a straight face? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

06-20-2012, 07:48 AM	#64
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	At least they used the then state-of-the-art Windows 3.1 for some of the effects, but considering how much in the spotlight Turtles III received, it really spread how much of a failure that movie was, and started to turn more and more people against TMNT. Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas came out at a time when fewer people cared about the Turtles, feeling that Power Rangers was far superior. Still, at least TMNT brought the attention of the turtles traveling to ancient Japan to the masses, as it was recently introduced in #46 and #47, and spawned the Legend of Koji episode. Season 9 of the OT and most of Fast Forward and parts of Back to the Sewer are dishonorable mentions as well, really killing those shows. Turtle Tunes I'd say is the absolute worst though: the singing is so bad, but not quite bad enough that you can't really make a joke about it. As for April's Vol. 4 origin, I think the writers were trying to make a joke that IT'S ONLY A CARTOON! __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

06-20-2012, 05:49 PM	#70
Francis The Lost Turtle Random Punk Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 35	For me it would have to be the character redesigns for the Back To The Sewers season. __________________

06-20-2012, 04:56 PM	#68
Drose18 The Catalina Wine Mixer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,865	Michael Bay, definiteley Michael Bay.

06-20-2012, 06:01 PM	#71
Killer Moth Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 384	Character-wise, it's a toss-up between April in Vol. 4, Karai's bizarre characterization ("I slept with Casey Jones, because..., why?" and, later, "I kidnap babies in the FUTURA!") and the Rat King's "origin." In terms of the latter, it answered a question no one asked. El Goonish Shive did a good job going there, so go read: http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-04-26 Or for more heinous things, the Mutanimals being killed off, because their animated series didn't materalize. We had Terracide, which is great, but was it worth all the bloodshed? Do what most writers do -- let your characters languish in obscurity. Beats killing them off viciously. In terms of writing, TMNT Adventures' heavy-handed politics in certain matters for me. Some issues, I no longer re-read (such as issue #40), because I don't want my intelligence insulted. Plus, life is too short. Regardless, it's all a subjective standard, and what may be the worst thing evah to one, may be a minor irritation to another.

06-21-2012, 03:37 AM	#74
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06-21-2012, 04:08 AM	#75
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06-21-2012, 05:58 AM	#77
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Says the guy who has been temp banned more times than he's been laid.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

06-21-2012, 02:38 PM	#79
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,878	In terms of characters there have always been crappy one-off characters in every series, but as said they were such minor characters it didn't matter. The good thing is the core cast and major villains are usually good.