What do you think is the worst thing in TMNT history?

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

If you read the last sentence in that post, it's pretty obvious it was a silly joke

I did read that last sentence and that's why I was hoping for the possibility that it was indeed a joke, albeit a rather messed up one.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

I did read that last sentence and that's why I was hoping for the possibility that it was indeed a joke, albeit a rather messed up one.

Yeah, I was lampooning Zarius' whole "If you dislike what I like then you are a idiot/virgin/mouth breather." posts style. I don't feel that way about it. I think Turtles 3 gets to much flack, but I can understand the naysayers.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Jester

Says the guy who has been temp banned more times than he's been laid....

Lol...

Post of 2012.

[psych23232323]

Would this count?:

I thought the worst thing in TMNT history was when news hit of a blu-ray special edition pack of all 4 movies to be released in a box set in the U.S.

Then it comes out, I didn't get the special features I wanted like the deleted scenes of the first live action movie.

AND I ESPECIALLY KNOW THERE WERE DELETED SCENES WHEN GERMANY GOT THE SPECIAL EDITION DVD!

But yes, I believe the worst thing was that Blu-Ray pack, promising special features when it was just those movies put in Blu-Ray format to suck out our money.

[rufus]

Originally Posted by psych23232323

Would this count?:

I thought the worst thing in TMNT history was when news hit of a blu-ray special edition pack of all 4 movies to be released in a box set in the U.S.

Then it comes out, I didn't get the special features I wanted like the deleted scenes of the first live action movie.

AND I ESPECIALLY KNOW THERE WERE DELETED SCENES WHEN GERMANY GOT THE SPECIAL EDITION DVD!

But yes, I believe the worst thing was that Blu-Ray pack, promising special features when it was just those movies put in Blu-Ray format to suck out our money.

Have to agree with this. WB owning TMNT 1 U.S release rights is just sad.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Jester

THAT is the single worst thing to happen in TMNT. April is a drawing created by one of the "Kirby Crystals"? What was Laird thinking?

When did that comics come out? It's as silly as 2003 Shredder.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982

When did that comics come out?

June 2005, says the cover.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Jester

June 2005, says the cover.

I hope it will be declared to not have happened later (just some silly dream or whatever, or just declared non-canon official).

[Fugitoid Jones]

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982

I hope it will be declared to not have happened later (just some silly dream or whatever, or just declared non-canon official).

Doubtful that it will get retconned, because the continuation of the Mirage continuity lies in the hands of Laird, and I doubt he will be continuing it. And I seriously doubt he will make an announcement on his blog like
"Hey guys, remember when I said that April was a drawing come to life in vol. 4? Well, just kidding! Savanti Romero cast a spell on her that caused her to have a horrible nightmare where she became a bug with Renet and saw how she was drawn to life, only so he could mess with her mind and make her vulnerable to the alien Brontosaurus invasion that he was planning."

Anyway, as much as I dislike most of vol. 4, I almost think of it as non-canon, cause not only does it help me sleep at night, but I personally think Peter was off his rocker while writing it. Pete wants to ignore vol. 3 and say it's non-canon, then I will ignore vol. 4 and say it's non-canon.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

"Hey guys, remember when I said that April was a drawing come to life in vol. 4? Well, just kidding! Savanti Romero cast a spell on her that caused her to have a horrible nightmare where she became a bug with Renet and saw how she was drawn to life, only so he could mess with her mind and make her vulnerable to the alien Brontosaurus invasion that he was planning."

I, uh... wouldn't actually mind that explanation, really.

[Oniri]

For me, the worst decisions in TMNT has to be April's drawing background (which many have said already) and Venus (sorry to Venus fans).

Kirby had his moment with Don and April had other things to work out. Thus, I really felt like April's whole "I am just a picture" background was really unnecessary characterization-wise. There was so many other ways to work on her character without dealing with her parents at all.

Venus did not bother me because of the "there is no need for a fifth turtle" argument/rant that most V-haters go through. I dislike Venus because they didn't develop her and it was waste of a character. Venus honestly had potential. I just feel that they made her and some how did not have a plan for her when they did.

Her background was ridiculously round-about even by TMNT standards. Her only speciality was " dream magic" and understanding "magic", neither which were used in a productive way (my magic senses tell me that there is something in the darkness...while martial arts training, if I had it, could have told me the same thing). She got through the first episode and her place in the plot was lost afterwards. She didn't really contribute anything and just didn't need to be there anymore once she explained the whole dream situation.

I felt that a new female character (turtle or no turtle) could have been cool, but they totally trashed it! I admit that I still a little sore about it.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Oniri

For me, the worst decisions in TMNT has to be April's drawing background (which many have said already) and Venus (sorry to Venus fans).

Kirby had his moment with Don and April had other things to work out. Thus, I really felt like April's whole "I am just a picture" background was really unnecessary characterization-wise. There was so many other ways to work on her character without dealing with her parents at all.

Venus did not bother me because of the "there is no need for a fifth turtle" argument/rant that most V-haters go through. I dislike Venus because they didn't develop her and it was waste of a character. Venus honestly had potential. I just feel that they made her and some how did not have a plan for her when they did.

Her background was ridiculously round-about even by TMNT standards. Her only speciality was " dream magic" and understanding "magic", neither which were used in a productive way (my magic senses tell me that there is something in the darkness...while martial arts training, if I had it, could have told me the same thing). She got through the first episode and her place in the plot was lost afterwards. She didn't really contribute anything and just didn't need to be there anymore once she explained the whole dream situation.

I felt that a new female character (turtle or no turtle) could have been cool, but they totally trashed it! I admit that I still a little sore about it.

The worsr with Venus is her using magic.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I'm going to say Venus DeMilo. I think they could have had April be their female sidekick again and it would have been fine. Or Mona Lisa, or some other female mutant. Shoehorning in a 5th female turtle was such a blatant attempt at trying to make TMNT like Power Rangers by making sure there was at least one girl on the team, that as neat as the character might have become later it will seem lame to me. I've never gotten more than ten minutes into the first episode, so I don't know. The Venus idea kind of makes me want to avoid the series.

Coming Out of Their Shells is a close second. Even when I was a kid I didn't bother watching it a second time. As an adult there are a few parts that are "so bad they're good", which is why Venus took the title of worst of the worst for me.

TMNT III wasn't very good, but it was far from the worst thing about TMNT. There are even many, many movies that are far worse.

[shuriken]

Originally Posted by Jester

Says the guy who has been temp banned more times than he's been laid....

BWAHAHAHA

The PSA's were cheesy yes, but that's their charm so I give em a pass.
The Next Mutation was bad, but the first Wave of toys was awesome, especially the Elite Guard (one of the most badass TMNT toys to date), so they get a pass.
All in all there are a lot of terrible things about TMNT or in the TMNT.
I can't really narrow it down but here are my top 5 worst in no particular order of terribleness.
*Rat Kings Origin Story- I had to read it to find out how ridiculous it was. Being an insane Homeless man in a silo beats the crap out of getting rat powers and squandering them in what exactly? terrible
*The Coming out of their SHell Tours and the making of the coming out of their shells tour- both made me a bit sick.
*Turtlecest
*April Being a Drawing and all the threads that made up the latter part of Volume four that never went anywhere(Although I will say Donnie killing Baxter was about 15 shades of awesome).
*Fanbase complaining before seeing/watching/reading something

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by shuriken

*Rat Kings Origin Story- I had to read it to find out how ridiculous it was. Being an insane Homeless man in a silo beats the crap out of getting rat powers and squandering them in what exactly? terrible

Still a drop in the pan compared to the whole mismanagement thing I mentioned earlier (as is pretty much everything in this thread), but man, do I ever agree.

"The Pantheon" is my personal "I'm just going to pretend this never happened" issue.

[psych23232323]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

I'm going to say Venus DeMilo. I think they could have had April be their female sidekick again and it would have been fine. Or Mona Lisa, or some other female mutant. Shoehorning in a 5th female turtle was such a blatant attempt at trying to make TMNT like Power Rangers by making sure there was at least one girl on the team, that as neat as the character might have become later it will seem lame to me.

Funny thing is...Ninja Turtles the Next Mutation was actually made by the same company that made Power Rangers XD.

[PizzaPower]

Ima have to disagree with alot of you and say that I liked the Next Mutation and wish there was at least another season, on that note ima have to say Fast Forward and Back to the Sewer where my least favorites.

[Killer Moth]

Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

Doubtful that it will get retconned, because the continuation of the Mirage continuity lies in the hands of Laird, and I doubt he will be continuing it. And I seriously doubt he will make an announcement on his blog like
"Hey guys, remember when I said that April was a drawing come to life in vol. 4? Well, just kidding! Savanti Romero cast a spell on her that caused her to have a horrible nightmare where she became a bug with Renet and saw how she was drawn to life, only so he could mess with her mind and make her vulnerable to the alien Brontosaurus invasion that he was planning."

Anyway, as much as I dislike most of vol. 4, I almost think of it as non-canon, cause not only does it help me sleep at night, but I personally think Peter was off his rocker while writing it. Pete wants to ignore vol. 3 and say it's non-canon, then I will ignore vol. 4 and say it's non-canon.

Works for me. Ignore stupid canon is what I say.

Since we're talking recent Mirage, I'm surprised no one cited the Brain Thief. I don't hate it, yet I can see why people don't care for it.

As for Venus, I haven't seen enough to comment beyond "I'm fine with her general existence and using magic, but not so much of injecting her into the origin, via a retcon." I didn't care for it when Fred Wolf went there with Mondo Gecko, so I wouldn't care for the redux.

For a slight shift in topic, we could discuss how some concepts that received major backlash at the time, but we eventually loved them or at least, accepted them (depending on who you ask). Ch'rell, anyone? (Again, depending on who you ask.)

[tomservo95]

dvd releases and lack thereof for anything pertaining to tmnt. there's some really good dvds and really terrible dvds and things that aren't even on dvd. it's just a big mess. almost as big a mess as muppets dvds.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by tomservo95

dvd releases and lack thereof for anything pertaining to tmnt. there's some really good dvds and really terrible dvds and things that aren't even on dvd. it's just a big mess. almost as big a mess as muppets dvds.

Actually at this point only the 4kids DVDs are a mess.

We're hoping Shout Factory re-releases the entire series.