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[Brodie]

You're worried about Amazing Spider-Man paling in comparison to Max Payne 3? What a ****ing joke.

I've seen better noir storytelling etched into the walls of public restroom stalls.

[Peanut]

Considering none of those games are even close to the same in any fundamental way it's even more insane.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I've been in a Zelda mood and played a Minish Cap for a little while today.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Considering none of those games are even close to the same in any fundamental way it's even more insane.

arkham city and the amazing spiderman arent comparible? take a look at the mechanics tasm is trying so hard to replicate from ac - combat system, stealth mechanics, they are also both open-world games featuring comic book characters/atmosphere, by the way. get a damn clue before you jump to disagree with me lol.

brodie, stryker, you guys think mp3 and arkham city are mediocre. fair enough, good for you.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

are you kidding? spiderman is extremely influenced by the batman games. they basically stole arkhams combat and stealth system. probably less polished but the comparison is completely valid. ha. i know you love to disagree with me, but don't be an idiot over it.

I agree about Batman. They said themselves that they took inspiration from their, but Max Payne?

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Turo602

I agree about Batman. They said themselves that they took inspiration from their, but Max Payne?

my point was i really liked max payne 3 (insane, i know), so my personal standards are high right now. didn't compare any fundamentals. this is pretty simple guys. no offense turo, i know you are just asking.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

my point was i really liked max payne 3 (insane, i know), so my personal standards are high right now. didn't compare any fundamentals. this is pretty simple guys. no offense turo, i know you are just asking.

Ah, I get it. I too liked Max Payne 3. I gave the multiplayer a shot recently, and I enjoyed it more than I usually enjoy multiplayer. And none taken.

Also, I recently passed Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. I enjoyed it for the most part, but it has to be my least favorite so far. It just suffers from crap overload. Ubisoft really went out of their way to try and lengthen the game and justify the 60 dollar price tag that it ended up hurting the experience. Well, I completed it a couple hours back so I'm now playing Uncharted 2. So far it feels better than the first, but still too early to tell.

[Peanut]

Arkham City is as much an open world game as it is an RPG. It's a f*cking hub world that leads you to incredibly linear AA style levels. Instead of having each area connect through a series of hallways, Arkham City uses a small area to connect the actual meat of the game. Arkham is a game made with time and money, based on no specific version of Batman, and with a scale small enough to add detail to every area of the design. Amazing is a game made with little time or money, based on a movie, with a large enough scale that adding the same amount of care and detail is entirely unrealistic. These are things that all contribute to those games being fundamentally different. Are you going to compare Batman to God of War because they share a combo based combat system and you can upgrade your abilities?

And yeah, Batman was the first game to do combo based combat and stealth sections, therefore every single game that ever comes out with those specific mechanics should be compared to Batman. Right?

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Arkham City is as much an open world game as it is an RPG. It's a f*cking hub world that leads you to incredibly linear AA style levels. Instead of having each area connect through a series of hallways, Arkham City uses a small area to connect the actual meat of the game. Arkham is a game made with time and money, based on no specific version of Batman, and with a scale small enough to add detail to every area of the design. Amazing is a game made with little time or money, based on a movie, with a large enough scale that adding the same amount of care and detail is entirely unrealistic. These are things that all contribute to those games being fundamentally different. Are you going to compare Batman to God of War because they share a combo based combat system and you can upgrade your abilities?

And yeah, Batman was the first game to do combo based combat and stealth sections, therefore every single game that ever comes out with those specific mechanics should be compared to Batman. Right?

Oh, give it a rest, Peanut. The games are entirely comparable and share a lot of the same game mechanics. Lots of games have combo's and stealth sections, but if you are trying to deny how similar Batman's and Spider-man's are, you are, well...totally ignorant or an idiot. Let's not forget I didn't even bring up game mechanics in my original post, as I was speaking of personal enjoyment.
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Been itching for a new game lately. I've basically narrowed it down to Rage, Mass Effect 3, and Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom ( Only played the original release of Mvc3, and not sure whether the reworked balance and characters make it worth a revisit). Anyone have any opinions? I know Rage was a letdown for a lot of people, but I enjoyed aspects of the demo and it's only ten bucks.

[Peanut]

My point is that if you know sh*t about games you should know better than to try and compare games on such different levels. You'll just set yourself up for disappointment every time.

It's like going into a Tenchu game expecting a Ninja Gaiden level of combat depth and polish.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Peanut

My point is that if you know sh*t about games you should know better than to try and compare games on such different levels. You'll just set yourself up for disappointment every time.

It's like going into a Tenchu game expecting a Ninja Gaiden level of combat depth and polish.

not a similar comparison. tenchu (someone bring this series back to its brighter days) and ninja gaiden attemt total opposite styles, yes? ac and tasm do not. not that i ever intended to compare actual game mechanics in my original post. get that through your thick skull before you attempt to reply! i was saying that since i enjoyed those games so much,i would be critical of a game that is probably mediocre anyways, but alas, i love me some spider-man.


to recap, you are wrong on two levels:

1. i never even tried to compare them on any level but pure enjoyment factor so this debate was not warranted by my post.

2 . batman and spider-man are indeed comparible. no **** batman is way more polished. that was my point.

[Peanut]

Jesus Christ. You trying to talk about thick skulls is a joke. How many more times do you need to entirely miss a f*cking point in this section before you just give up and go away? Weren't you planning on selling all your sh*t because you were an emo b*tch a few months back? Just do that and leave.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Jesus Christ. You trying to talk about thick skulls is a joke. How many more times do you need to entirely miss a f*cking point in this section before you just give up and go away? Weren't you planning on selling all your sh*t because you were an emo b*tch a few months back? Just do that and leave.

Comparing Arkham City and Amazing Spider-Mam is like comparing Tenchu and Ninja Gaiden?

What a joke.

(Oh wait that wasn't your point!!!) Sure.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

Oh, sorry. I was interested in debating games, not throwing out insults with no real point.

A debate can't be had when one side refuses to see the other side's point. You know, like you.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Cure

A debate can't be had when one side refuses to see the other side's point. You know, like you.

Wait...what was the point that I missed, cure? No...not you, Peanut. I'd like to hear Cure's view.

Pretty sure Peanut was trying to say that the games play way differently. I disagreed. Point missed?

And man, oh, man....I never even ever... ever... ever compared the way the play compared to eachother until you guys did. PLEASE read my original post before continuing.

Originally Posted by Peanut

My point is that if you know sh*t about games you should know better than to try and compare games on such different levels. You'll just set yourself up for disappointment every time.

It's like going into a Tenchu game expecting a Ninja Gaiden level of combat depth and polish.

I mean, c'mon cure...Do you too think that Comparing ASM and AC is the equivalent of comparing Tenchu and Ninja Gaiden? I know you and Peanut are buds...but really? You want to stick to that arguement?

Gaming journalism may be a joke in most area's but everyone else on the web seem's pretty open to the fact that ASM is trying hard to replicate Arkham City( it goes without saying that AC is likely the better game, but hell, we've all three said it anyway) . You don't see the comparisons? REALLY?

[Cure]

The point is that you should let every game stand on its own. Liking one game a lot is a stupid reason to not like another. That's the point you missed.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Cure

The point is that you should let every game stand on its own. Liking one game a lot is a stupid reason to not like another. That's the point you missed.

Okay we aren't allowed to compare games on the video-game forum anymore. That might almost make sense, if Beenox wasn't totally ripping off what Rocksteady was trying to do. It warrants a comparison, dude. It's okay to compare two games. It's okay, to be disappointed with one, after playing a much better one that shares a lot in common. It's okay. I am willing to bet that if Rocksteady Batman games did not exist ASM would be getting a slightly warmer welcome with it's audience. It would seem more fresh, more innovative, because Rocksteady would have yet to bring those combat/stealth mechanics to the majority of gamers.

[愛]

I gotta get away from message boards...

[Cure]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

We aren't allowed to compare games anymore? You've never enjoyed a game a lot, and felt the jolt of playing a lower quality game after? k. Did I say I did not like Spider-man? Um, no. I said after Enjoying two great games (IMO), it may be hard to enjoy a mediocre movie tie in. Perhaps if I had never played a video-game, Spider-man would rock my socks, but when you play a lot of games you personally love, something that isn't up to high quality may seem a bit disappointing. Jesus, that doesn't make sense to you?

I'm not misunderstanding you. You're getting your point across. I'm just saying it shouldn't be that way, because it's like once you play one game you really like, all others will automatically suffer no matter what. That's retarded. All games, and every piece of media, really, should be viewed with a fresh perspective.

Also, stop editing your posts like 5 times.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Cure

I'm not misunderstanding you. You're getting your point across. I'm just saying it shouldn't be that way, because it's like once you play one game you really like, all others will automatically suffer no matter what. That's retarded. All games, and every piece of media, really, should be viewed with a fresh perspective.

Also, stop editing your posts like 5 times.

Yeah I know the editing is getting confusing, but it seems really hard to get a point across to you guys right now, honestly. So I am just looking for the best way to present it. I should slow down and edit it completely before posting, you are right. Regardless though...

How can you view Spider-Man with a fresh perspective when it blatantly rips off Batman? 95% of games/art rip eachother off. It's only natural to compare. Yes, once you play a great game, other's sometimes suffer in your opinion. Don't you kinda see that that is sadly how the video-game world works? Take graphics for example. What was once beautiful is now often a fugly mess. Take sequels for example as well - Sometimes when a new mechanic is introduced, it becomes hard to go back and play an earlier game in the series. You notice what's missing, and it stings. You compare. Sure, not all the time. There are games that hold up, but as we move on and games build upon eachother, that tends to happen. I would like to say, that you present your points in a much more organized way than Peanut though. I actually feel like you listen to what I am saying and respond accordingly, with real points.

Originally Posted by 愛

I gotta get away from message boards...

If the insults were mostly dropped, it would actually be an interesting debate. I'd like to hear others perspectives, because yeah, we are sort of hogging the thread.
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Picked up Mass Effect 3 today. Going to start after I get a few things done. Smelly dog needs a bath.

Going in with semi-low expectations, but I am sort of a sucker for Outer-Space. Did anyone here actually enjoy the game? Don't need to hear about the ending! ;]