Are the mutant allies more popular than the mutant villains?

[Walkabout]

Correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt Wyrm the most popular figure from the original line?

[Mr.Turtle]

they say it's hard to make animation exactly the same as the comic books...

[LotusBlossom]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

Toxeem, I believe was a tarantula-like being.He only appeared once in TMNT Adventures#52. No word if was to appear a second time in The Forever War.

This dorky dude doesn't count, imo:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GPM_01ZOeT...0/Toxeem01.jpg

In fact, he kinda looks like Carter's "monster mutation", actually (only with a giant spider humping his head).

Plus that's not even really a tarantula (humping his head). Merely a giant "generic" spider-like creature of some sort.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Walkabout

Correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt Wyrm the most popular figure from the original line?

I don't think so, just compare him to Bebop, Rockstready and Slash.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by LotusBlossom

This dorky dude doesn't count, imo:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GPM_01ZOeT...0/Toxeem01.jpg

In fact, he kinda looks like Carter's "monster mutation", actually (only with a giant spider humping his head).

Plus that's not even really a tarantula (humping his head). Merely a giant "generic" spider-like creature of some sort.

Nice description of the guy! I don't believe the character was ever given an origin. I always thought of him as a bug alien from an another dimension much like Antrax only Antrax looks more ant-like. I don't see Cater's mutant form being anything close to Toxem. Toxem is blue with leg of a trantula while Cater is yellow with a ponytail. Same size and msuclar are the only two things the character have in common when Cater is mutated.

[ngroove]

No.

With every incarnation of Turtles, whether in comics / television / video games the Turtles always needs some opposition, at least punching bags! The same goes for toys; I'm sure every kid loved to swarm the Turtles with as many nasty-lookin' baddies as they could; Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, General Traag, Baxter Stockman, Rat King, Leatherhead, Dirtbag, Groundchuck, Wyrm, Scumbug, Wingnut, Screwloose, Scaletail, Slash, Muck Man, Mutagen Man, Tokka, Rahzzar, Triceraton, Chrome Dome...

Even in video games, it probably is a kid, such as me back when,'s excitement, the boss we see we reach to, many times even shout them out, whom we could probably name off the top of our heads.

[ngroove]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think its odd to say really. Muckman/Joe eyeball started off as villains but then became good guys. Same with Mutagen Man really.

Scumbug, Wyrm and Antrax got appearances in the show/Archie series but never seemed to become that popular. Is it because all 3 are based on bugs?

They were probably popular alright, according to kids everywhere who held their toys, and thought they were pretty mean / nasty / scuzzy looking...and believe me, has there ever been a kid who resisted nasty or scuzzy?

[LotusBlossom]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

Nice description of the guy! ... I don't see Cater's mutant form being anything close to Toxem. Toxem is blue with leg of a trantula while Cater is yellow with a ponytail. Same size and msuclar are the only two things the character have in common when Cater is mutated.

Blue?! Well, apparently one of us must be color-blind, because I'm seeing an orange-y yellow-ish ... which is (more or less) how I'd describe mutant Carter.

[Mr.Turtle]

i donno...i remember when i was a kid, i tended to grab things with bright colors...not that into mean looking monster things like u said.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

i think metalhead can be both good n bad.

Yeah, the same with the Punk Frogs. Being bad, becoming good.

[Mr.Turtle]

it's all depends on how u program him.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

it's all depends on how u program him.

The same with other robots (like MACC) of course.

[Newton Gimmick]

Villains over allies. Most of the time, I used any new mutant figure as a bag guy. With a handful of exceptions. Pretty much only Archie fans are big supporters of the mutant heroes, IMO.

Sure there were a handful of mutant good guys that everyone seems to like, Mondo, Mona, Ace Duck, but in general I think the villains are more universally popular.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Villains over allies. Most of the time, I used any new mutant figure as a bag guy. With a handful of exceptions. Pretty much only Archie fans are big supporters of the mutant heroes, IMO.

Sure there were a handful of mutant good guys that everyone seems to like, Mondo, Mona, Ace Duck, but in general I think the villains are more universally popular.

A lot of talking animals in Archie aren't really mutants.

[Newton Gimmick]

Right, but the point remains the same.

[Mr.Turtle]

i think human villains r more popular coz bishop, orokusaki, hun...the big bosses r always human.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

i think human villains r more popular coz bishop, orokusaki, hun...the big bosses r always human.

Or aliens, like Krang.

[Mr.Turtle]

i dont like krang.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

i think human villains r more popular coz bishop, orokusaki, hun...the big bosses r always human.

You see,there are only so many human villians. That is my biggest problem with the 2003 cartoon. Shredder and Rat King are made to be inhuman. The mutant villians are plentiful and we don't need many more added.We need older characters built upon.

[Mr.Turtle]

wut matters is not the amount but the quality. i dont give a damn abt how many mutant villains there r, only the human villains get more attention bcoz they r more decent looking and intelligent, like kusaki, bishop...