Dan Duncan DONE with IDW Turtles - Page 5

*Kendamu* · 07-17-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well that's cool, fill-in and all. I don't mean to be a wet blanket about this.

Did you see the pics of his more recent work on the first page? It might change your opinion a little.

*Donnie* · 07-17-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Plasticplayhouse

wow, that is gnarly! while i love his rocksteady, i love his rendition of turtle equally. i would second this guy in a heartbeat! his style has a great feel to it that's perfect for tmnt.

I agree. After Ross Campbell, I'd put Mateus as my next choice.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The artist from the Michelangelo special is taking over full-time on the flagship book? I respect his style... but I'd be lying if I didn't say that, to me, he seems like literally the worst possible candidate from all the IDW TMNT artists we've seen so far.

I don't think you're being a wet blanket for stating this. I am of the same mind. I don't dislike Kuhn's art, but I feel like any of the other Micro artists would have been a better choice, if Kuhn is indeed picked to continue the book for the long term.

Has anybody mentioned Charles Paul Wilson III, the artist of the Splinter Micro? I could totally get behind that.

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I've probably missed something in the last 24 hours, but I don't think Kuhn has been announced as a full-time replacement. He had already been scheduled for a couple of issues in the main series, but Duncan recently announced his departure, so IDW is still looking for a replacement.

It's not official, like you said he's been signed on for a few issues. However, I have a feeling he might take over after that. These first couple of issues Kuhn is doing seem preliminary...just a feeling, I guess.

Archon_Turtle · 07-17-2012, 11:19 PM

Throw money at Ross until he says yes. *nod*

*CyberCubed* · 07-17-2012, 11:21 PM

I think this might actually cost IDW some sales.

When a big art shift happens in an ongoing monthly comic, sales usually decline. I can't imagine people uninformed about this change going from #12 to #13 and wondering why everything looks so different.

They should find someone who is going to be around for a year or more like Duncan was to do a bunch of issues in a row. Different artists for micros and mini-series are fine, but when it comes to the main series, the art changing every couple of issues isn't a good idea.

Lampy · 07-17-2012, 11:38 PM

Khun's art on people looks great though... I'll give him that. And his splinter too. But I'll really miss Duncan's Turtles.

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-18-2012, 09:34 AM

For the record, I actually enjoy Khuns art....more than Duncans! Surprise.

Still, Mateus, would propel this to being one of my favorite books, I assume. I love each taste I get of his turtle art.

*Plasticplayhouse* · 07-18-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think this might actually cost IDW some sales.

When a big art shift happens in an ongoing monthly comic, sales usually decline. I can't imagine people uninformed about this change going from #12 to #13 and wondering why everything looks so different.

They should find someone who is going to be around for a year or more like Duncan was to do a bunch of issues in a row. Different artists for micros and mini-series are fine, but when it comes to the main series, the art changing every couple of issues isn't a good idea.

lol. i totally second this method. i know he's currently working on glory, but you offer him a nice contract to lure him in and let khun fill in for six months so Campbell can give Image a respectable amount of notice to find a new artist...badabing badaboom we'll have ourselves a fan fav artist at the helm.

*Redeemer* · 07-18-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob

As I said before I love this picture. I'd love to see his Bebop. Man if this is in an IDW book I'm really super excited.

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I really like the Rocksteady in these pics, but I dont like the way the turtles look.....

Dirty Blond · 07-18-2012, 11:15 AM

Maybe we'll get to see some decent plastrons from now on.

*Donnie* · 07-18-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Blond

Maybe we'll get to see some decent plastrons from now on.

I really hope so. That was my biggest gripe with Duncan.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-18-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Blond

Maybe we'll get to see some decent plastrons from now on.

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Originally Posted by Donnie

I really hope so. That was my biggest gripe with Duncan.

Myself as well. Though it did improve over time, it was like Dan was drawing the plastrons as though they were soft and squishy and foam-like, like the ones from the movies. Why someone would want to intentionally set out making the plastrons look like Halloween costumes, I have no idea.

*Candy Kappa* · 07-18-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Myself as well. Though it did improve over time, it was like Dan was drawing the plastrons as though they were soft and squishy and foam-like, like the ones from the movies. Why someone would want to intentionally set out making the plastrons look like Halloween costumes, I have no idea.

I guess in a way to explain how the turtles can move by making the Plastron (and perhaps the Carapace) softer and flexible.

But I wasn't a fan of Duncan's Plastrons either, everything else was fine.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-18-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I guess in a way to explain how the turtles can move by making the Plastron (and perhaps the Carapace) softer and flexible.

As long as the "lines" between the segments of plastron bend where they're supposed to there really isn't a problem. There's no need for the actual segments themselves to be bendable/flexible.

*Coro* · 07-18-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

While I'm not that big a fan of Dan's turtles, I do think they're better than Kuhn's.

Agreed. I would like to see Campbell take over.

Killer Moth · 07-18-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone

In hopes of mustering up support for Mateus, here are some rough pieces he's done of what looks like the turtles fighting Rocksteady!

http://santolouco.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=655&h=995

http://santolouco.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=655&h=995

I'm definitely sold. I also hope he gets to say, "I'm a God-damn rhino," like he did in the Raph one-shot. Why that hasn't been a meme, like the electric death one from the 87 series, that's so wrong.

As for Kuhn, again, I defer to Laird's "didn't make me puke" line. Same with Duncan, as, to me, his art was a nice clean one for the most part. (Save for the plastrons, etc.) Best wishes for Duncan, as he moves on for -- pardon the pun -- greener pastures.

*CyberCubed* · 07-18-2012, 06:26 PM

At least Dan Duncan goes out with #12 which wraps up a year for IDW and ends the main story arc.

Couldn't have picked a better issue to go out on.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-18-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

Did you see the pics of his more recent work on the first page? It might change your opinion a little.

I'm willing to give the guy a second chance if he brings his A game. It is just two issues. I'm just worried that it might create an unwanted "jumping off" point for other readers.

And if he knocks it out of the park? Great. I'd be the first one to sing his praises.

*ToTheNines* · 07-19-2012, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'm willing to give the guy a second chance if he brings his A game. It is just two issues.

Nope, he's doing four issues. 13-16.

FoxZerro · 07-19-2012, 07:09 AM

If they keep the stories contained then I think this will work out ok. Duncan gave us the first year, which is kind of one big story.

It has been said that 13 and 14 are a self contained arc which will benefit from having the same artist. If the same is done with 15 and 16, which based upon the trade lengths would probably be the case, then you have two arcs with the same artist at the helm. Plus consistency of art in the trade.

Where this will start to become hard to deal with, for me anyway, is if you have a story arc start with one artist and finish with another. Art changes always distract me.

Lampy · 07-19-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxZerro

If they keep the stories contained then I think this will work out ok. Duncan gave us the first year, which is kind of one big story.

It has been said that 13 and 14 are a self contained arc which will benefit from having the same artist. If the same is done with 15 and 16, which based upon the trade lengths would probably be the case, then you have two arcs with the same artist at the helm. Plus consistency of art in the trade.

Where this will start to become hard to deal with, for me anyway, is if you have a story arc start with one artist and finish with another. Art changes always distract me.

you have a point there FoxZerro... consistency is very important in a series... especially one that is ongoing.

07-17-2012, 11:19 PM	#83
Archon_Turtle I'm SUPER into myself Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 4,667	Throw money at Ross until he says yes. nod

07-17-2012, 11:21 PM	#84
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,841	I think this might actually cost IDW some sales. When a big art shift happens in an ongoing monthly comic, sales usually decline. I can't imagine people uninformed about this change going from #12 to #13 and wondering why everything looks so different. They should find someone who is going to be around for a year or more like Duncan was to do a bunch of issues in a row. Different artists for micros and mini-series are fine, but when it comes to the main series, the art changing every couple of issues isn't a good idea.

07-17-2012, 11:38 PM	#85
Lampy Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 748	Khun's art on people looks great though... I'll give him that. And his splinter too. But I'll really miss Duncan's Turtles.

07-18-2012, 09:34 AM	#86
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	For the record, I actually enjoy Khuns art....more than Duncans! Surprise. Still, Mateus, would propel this to being one of my favorite books, I assume. I love each taste I get of his turtle art.

07-18-2012, 11:15 AM	#89
Dirty Blond Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 827	Maybe we'll get to see some decent plastrons from now on.

07-18-2012, 06:26 PM	#96
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,841	At least Dan Duncan goes out with #12 which wraps up a year for IDW and ends the main story arc. Couldn't have picked a better issue to go out on.

07-19-2012, 07:09 AM	#99
FoxZerro Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 574	If they keep the stories contained then I think this will work out ok. Duncan gave us the first year, which is kind of one big story. It has been said that 13 and 14 are a self contained arc which will benefit from having the same artist. If the same is done with 15 and 16, which based upon the trade lengths would probably be the case, then you have two arcs with the same artist at the helm. Plus consistency of art in the trade. Where this will start to become hard to deal with, for me anyway, is if you have a story arc start with one artist and finish with another. Art changes always distract me.