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Old 07-22-2012, 11:33 AM   #401
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Why would a "comic book virgin" be "change fearing"? You're not making any sense, Zarius. Especially since Nolan and Bale seem to be the kind of people you are referring to (the ones who are not into the Batman family thing).
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:37 PM   #402
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Why would a "comic book virgin" be "change fearing"? You're not making any sense, Zarius.
By "comic book virgin", I didnt mean "people who were unfamiliar with the comics". If you don't have the sligthest comprehension over what I meant by that..well I really have to laugh at that

Read the guy's post, which is basicly "Waaah, Bruce should only be Batman wahhhh", and you'll understand that I, as usual, make perfect sense.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:56 PM   #403
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Just got back. This is an amazing final chapter for Nolan. I don't want to see Nolan or Bale back, it would make the other movies feel cheap. A lot of options for WB.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:08 PM   #404
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What a colossal waste of time.

Levitt was the best part. Bane's voice is a joke. Sounds like he escaped from the island of misfit toys.
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:33 AM   #405
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Yeah Bane's voice was meh. My friend told me tonight he preffered the non-speaking Bane from Batman & Robin

Overall I did like this entry allot. Can't wait to see where we go from here if any where
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:44 AM   #406
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What a colossal waste of time.

Levitt was the best part. Bane's voice is a joke. Sounds like he escaped from the island of misfit toys.
I seriously almost laughed when I heard Bane's voice the first time. A friend of mine asked me to tell her what I thought of the movie (She wasn't stoked to see it at all.) And all I told her was "Bane's voice sounded like a a Latin stage actor trying to do an imitation of Sean Connery using a Darth Vader voice box"

Despite that, I actually DID enjoy the movie, but to each their own I say.
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:52 AM   #407
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I seriously almost laughed when I heard Bane's voice the first time. "Bane's voice sounded like a a Latin stage actor trying to do an imitation of Sean Connery using a Darth Vader voice box"
Sean Connery with marbles in his mouth
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:06 AM   #408
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:25 AM   #409
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Some folks could do a little more research before getting indignant...

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Nolan has always been outspoken in his view that Bruce Wayne in this series has no intention of being Batman long-term. It's a central theme of the second film, how Bruce looks at Harvey as a way out, hoping that Dent's idealism can bring about a lasting change in Gotham and turn it into a city that does not need Batman. He doesn't carry the same obsession as he does in the comics.

In interviews before the film came out, Nolan specifically stated that he chose the film's ending for the reason it can never happen in the comics, and to illustrate the different types of stories films can tell vs. more serialized entertainment. The Batman comics are never-ending, if you give Bruce a "real" ending, either death or retirement, you have to undo it eventually via either retcon or reboot because most fans don't want anyone but Bruce in the suit. The films are a self-contained universe totally different from the comics (even though the tone is great), so you can take leaps into places the comics can't go.

I'm totally accepting that this Bruce Wayne wouldn't want to be Batman forever (no pun intended). These flicks have always been about "keeping it real" and that's not very realistic. Him dying also would have been a misfire, when they showed Bruce's grave a large portion of the audience was vocally upset, and were very happy when the twist was revealed. They did the right thing.

In my head, the Batman of the comics would probably never quit and would probably die in the line of duty, but I think movies can and should be different sometimes. In either case, I see someone else taking up the mantle after Bruce was gone. I'm happy with the ending.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:03 PM   #410
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Some folks could do a little more research before getting indignant...

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Nolan has always been outspoken in his view that Bruce Wayne in this series has no intention of being Batman long-term. It's a central theme of the second film, how Bruce looks at Harvey as a way out, hoping that Dent's idealism can bring about a lasting change in Gotham and turn it into a city that does not need Batman. He doesn't carry the same obsession as he does in the comics.

In interviews before the film came out, Nolan specifically stated that he chose the film's ending for the reason it can never happen in the comics, and to illustrate the different types of stories films can tell vs. more serialized entertainment. The Batman comics are never-ending, if you give Bruce a "real" ending, either death or retirement, you have to undo it eventually via either retcon or reboot because most fans don't want anyone but Bruce in the suit. The films are a self-contained universe totally different from the comics (even though the tone is great), so you can take leaps into places the comics can't go.

I'm totally accepting that this Bruce Wayne wouldn't want to be Batman forever (no pun intended). These flicks have always been about "keeping it real" and that's not very realistic. Him dying also would have been a misfire, when they showed Bruce's grave a large portion of the audience was vocally upset, and were very happy when the twist was revealed. They did the right thing.

In my head, the Batman of the comics would probably never quit and would probably die in the line of duty, but I think movies can and should be different sometimes. In either case, I see someone else taking up the mantle after Bruce was gone. I'm happy with the ending.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:58 PM   #411
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Overall I thought this movie was a huge disappointment. It tried way too hard to showcase profound themes that simply werent there. A very pretentious and overrated film.

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Bane's voice sounded like the English accent Seth Green uses on an episode of Robot Chicken (laughable and stupid). At no point during the movie did Wayne and Kyle develop a believable connection to the point they would run off together into retirement. Also I felt many of the characters were wasted (Lucious Fox and Alfred). Finally the movie's runtime could have been cut by at least 20 minutes. If I felt like writing more I could easily come up with more gripes, but, oh well at last the first two movies were good. Must also mention the only performances in the movie that were quite good were by Hardy, Hathaway, and Gordon-Levitt.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:12 AM   #412
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I had no problems with Bane's voice-heard every word he said and loved seeing him as the main villain. I was also pleasantly surprised by Anne Hathaway, as i was very skeptical of seeing her as cat woman. And of course, Pittsburgh looked great, though it was creepy to see what happened to Heinz field
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Thought it was excellent, and didn't have a problem with Bane's voice...
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My problem with Bane's voice isn't that I didn't understand him. It's that he sounded like Sean Connery doing a dudley do right impression.
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It's that he sounded like Sean Connery doing a dudley do right impression.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:00 AM   #416
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I actually kind of liked Bane's voice. And im a pretty huge batman comic AND animated series fan. I just think the Vader filter was WAY too strong. there were a few times where i couldnt tell what the hell he was saying.

Loved the movie tho. Levitt was a very nice surprise and i feel like it wrapped up just about as well as any live action batman movie could. It left me extremely satisfied, was never boring, and made me want to see the next chapter of Gotham's protector which is the best ending possible imo. (though i cant say i want it to be made, it ends so well that any attempt to "jump back in" will probably be unfulfilling.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:56 AM   #417
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Only problem I had was with Batman's voice,
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when he yells at Bane and talks to Catwoman with The Voice even though she knows who he is and there's no one else around.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:31 AM   #418
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I finally saw it yesterday. While a lot of the story details were either really, really dumb or didn't make any sense, I found myself thoroughly enjoying it. Calling it Oscar worthy is a bit of a stretch though.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:18 AM   #419
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Depends, I think the Oscars should care more about rewarding movies that people actually watch rather than weepy independent stuff that nobody knows exists. By that standard DKR is better than most films that people define as "good".

Titanic won Best Picture and DKR is infinitely better than that movie, after all. Unless you were a 12 year old girl in 1997, in which case mileage may vary.
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TDK was pretty great, Oscar worthy even, but this one? Not so much. It's a really well made film but the story is all over the place.
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