Which Splinter is better?

*J Legault* · 02-21-2003, 09:21 PM

Hello all you TNMT fans. I'm a new member and I was woundering about one thing. Which Splinter seems better:

~ The one when He was once human and became a rat by the ooze

~ Or the one that was once a pet rat and became a larger one from the ooze.

For me I like the one that was once a pet rat. And I have no clue why the original cartoon had the other option.

What do you think?

~~Tokka-B~~ · 02-21-2003, 09:50 PM

Um, sorry to burst your bubble, but this should be in another forum, maybe general tmnt, but you are new, this is a common thing. Anyway, I like the one when he turns from human to rat.

*J Legault* · 02-21-2003, 10:14 PM

Sorry, I didn't know. And I am just a new guy here.

**Machias Banshee** · 02-21-2003, 10:28 PM

Heh, already done..

*Eye of Sarnath* · 02-21-2003, 10:54 PM

I think the cartoon made Splinter be a man who becomes like a man so they wouldn't have to address Hamato Yoshi's death. Death in cartoons=big no-no.

One Radical Dude · 02-21-2003, 10:54 PM

I prefer Master Splinter from the old cartoons (from human [as Hamato Yoshi] to rat).

*J Legault* · 02-21-2003, 11:26 PM

OK I guess some like the old cartoon Splinter a bit better. Of course I don't know why two different origins are 25% different. I E-Mailed Shredder once and he had no clue ether. The point is at least all the TMNT Series will always be 4 mutated turtles to ninja turtles and not 4 humans mutated to turtles.

Donatello · 02-21-2003, 11:33 PM

i like splinter being a pet rat, if he's human it makes the mutagen to versitlie, i never understood why just contact with an animal would affect the mutation

*J Legault* · 02-21-2003, 11:50 PM

Finally! Someone likes the pet rat plot better than the human.
Thank You & Thank You

~~Tokka-B~~ · 02-21-2003, 11:58 PM

I don't know, it just seems more fun to have a human turn into a rat rather than a rat growing, it gives kids hope that they too can turn into rats...

**Karpo_007** · 02-22-2003, 02:29 AM

The origin was changed because it would have been too heavy for the children. I say Original Splinter of course. It is also more realistic that one being could evolve than a human turnig into a diffrent specie.

warbird · 02-22-2003, 04:19 AM

Thats my favourit:

~ Or the one that was once a pet rat and became a larger one from the ooze.

But the other version is quite good too.

Quote:

The origin was changed because it would have been too heavy for the children. I say Original Splinter of course. It is also more realistic that one being could evolve than a human turnig into a diffrent specie.

Yes,
but i think Bebob and Rockstady where although human beings bevor mutating to a Pic/Rhino -> and that story wasn`t changed, if i'm right

*Jephael* · 02-22-2003, 08:36 AM

I liked the idea of Hamato Yoshi turning into Splinter since Oroku Saki became Shredder. It was cooler that way because they would call each other by their proper names and it would sound so cool.

SHREDDER: "Prepare to die, Yoshi!"
SPLINTER: "I think not, Saki!"

*J Legault* · 02-22-2003, 09:11 AM

[quote="Karpo_007"]The origin was changed because it would have been too heavy for the children.

Was that why. So the company decided to change for less heavy matiral.
The one in the movie didn't look too heavy. And why bother walking around and say "Well the rat need to be human at first" said one of the writers.

Too Heavy

*heretic888* · 02-22-2003, 09:53 AM

actually, child, even the movie version was a candy-coated remake of the mirage story.

**Karpo_007** · 02-22-2003, 09:57 AM

When they made the cartoon, there was now way they could have shown death in it. That is why they chaged it. But in the new show it seems we will have the real origin.

As for the movie, It was pretty much the original Story, without Nagi.

*Skeletoncrew* · 02-22-2003, 10:16 AM

I'm all for Splinter being a rat originally. Rats make such great pets!

**Machias Banshee** · 02-22-2003, 10:44 AM

I dont care How he came to be, just as long as he's around...

I like both origins....I kinda had my own theory, too. that both Yoshi AND the pet Rat kinda got "fused" together, from the mutagen, so that the two became one. (dont ask how, its just an idea..

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Shellfox · 02-22-2003, 11:30 AM

Origin I like the old toon

Personality wise, I really like how the new toon Splinter is coming along, a nice blend os wisdom and comidy

TMNT is cooler than MOTU · 02-22-2003, 01:55 PM

I like the pet rat-giant rat origin story.

02-21-2003, 09:21 PM	#1
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	Which Splinter is better? Hello all you TNMT fans. I'm a new member and I was woundering about one thing. Which Splinter seems better: ~ The one when He was once human and became a rat by the ooze ~ Or the one that was once a pet rat and became a larger one from the ooze. For me I like the one that was once a pet rat. And I have no clue why the original cartoon had the other option. What do you think? __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

02-21-2003, 10:14 PM	#3
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	Sorry, I didn't know. And I am just a new guy here. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

02-21-2003, 10:54 PM	#5
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	I think the cartoon made Splinter be a man who becomes like a man so they wouldn't have to address Hamato Yoshi's death. Death in cartoons=big no-no. __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

02-21-2003, 10:54 PM	#6
One Radical Dude Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Central/SW AR, USA Posts: 495	I prefer Master Splinter from the old cartoons (from human [as Hamato Yoshi] to rat). __________________

02-21-2003, 11:26 PM	#7
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	OK I guess some like the old cartoon Splinter a bit better. Of course I don't know why two different origins are 25% different. I E-Mailed Shredder once and he had no clue ether. The point is at least all the TMNT Series will always be 4 mutated turtles to ninja turtles and not 4 humans mutated to turtles. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

02-21-2003, 09:50 PM	#2
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Um, sorry to burst your bubble, but this should be in another forum, maybe general tmnt, but you are new, this is a common thing. Anyway, I like the one when he turns from human to rat.

02-21-2003, 10:28 PM	#4
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Heh, already done..

02-21-2003, 11:33 PM	#8
Donatello Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Posts: 565	i like splinter being a pet rat, if he's human it makes the mutagen to versitlie, i never understood why just contact with an animal would affect the mutation

02-21-2003, 11:50 PM	#9
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	Finally! Someone likes the pet rat plot better than the human. Thank You & Thank You __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

02-21-2003, 11:58 PM	#10
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	I don't know, it just seems more fun to have a human turn into a rat rather than a rat growing, it gives kids hope that they too can turn into rats...

02-22-2003, 02:29 AM	#11
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	The origin was changed because it would have been too heavy for the children. I say Original Splinter of course. It is also more realistic that one being could evolve than a human turnig into a diffrent specie.

02-22-2003, 08:36 AM	#13
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I liked the idea of Hamato Yoshi turning into Splinter since Oroku Saki became Shredder. It was cooler that way because they would call each other by their proper names and it would sound so cool. SHREDDER: "Prepare to die, Yoshi!" SPLINTER: "I think not, Saki!" __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

02-22-2003, 09:11 AM	#14
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	[quote="Karpo_007"]The origin was changed because it would have been too heavy for the children. Was that why. So the company decided to change for less heavy matiral. The one in the movie didn't look too heavy. And why bother walking around and say "Well the rat need to be human at first" said one of the writers. Too Heavy __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

02-22-2003, 09:53 AM	#15
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmm actually, child, even the movie version was a candy-coated remake of the mirage story. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

02-22-2003, 09:57 AM	#16
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	When they made the cartoon, there was now way they could have shown death in it. That is why they chaged it. But in the new show it seems we will have the real origin. As for the movie, It was pretty much the original Story, without Nagi.

02-22-2003, 10:16 AM	#17
Skeletoncrew Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bearing in on your spicy brains Posts: 3,275	I'm all for Splinter being a rat originally. Rats make such great pets! __________________ Adult TMNT fan art and fiction contest Now accepting entries!

02-22-2003, 10:44 AM	#18
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	I dont care How he came to be, just as long as he's around... I like both origins....I kinda had my own theory, too. that both Yoshi AND the pet Rat kinda got "fused" together, from the mutagen, so that the two became one. (dont ask how, its just an idea.. )

02-22-2003, 11:30 AM	#19
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Origin I like the old toon Personality wise, I really like how the new toon Splinter is coming along, a nice blend os wisdom and comidy

02-22-2003, 01:55 PM	#20
TMNT is cooler than MOTU Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Southern CA Posts: 858	I like the pet rat-giant rat origin story. __________________ Thank you for getting rid of Hamato Yoshi, Michael Bay and Co.! He was suuuuuper unnecessary.