IDW's TMNT #13 discussion - Page 3

*Andrew NDB* · 08-21-2012, 02:45 PM

You know, it's a bit like the Hedden/McWeeney Mirage material... except those guys were intentionally trying to make the Turtles look ridiculous.

*CyberCubed* · 08-21-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You know, it's a bit like the Hedden/McWeeney Mirage material... except those guys were intentionally trying to make the Turtles look ridiculous.

It's really weird because as seen in all the different micros there are TONS of talented artists at IDW who would have made good Duncan replacements. I realize their schedules may already be booked with other comic projects but it seems weird that Andy was chosen over the others.

I guess we can only hope Ross Cambell comes on board full time with #17.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-21-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It's really weird because as seen in all the different micros there are TONS of talented artists at IDW who would have made good Duncan replacements.

I don't disagree, but why even stop the envelope at IDW? I would bet the farm there's a small armada of up-and-coming Jim Lee/Ethan Van Sciver-caliber artists out there who would love to work on a TMNT book. In fact, I know there is.

Dirty Blond · 08-21-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Splinter s in the preview.

Spoke too soon, but I try and not look at the previews, anway.

*frank_one* · 08-21-2012, 05:37 PM

Frankly, I don't care about the teeth that much.

strugler · 08-21-2012, 06:42 PM

Just posted my review of issue 13. Enjoy:

http://www.tmntlair.com/2012/08/22/r...ja-turtles-13/

*Andrew NDB* · 08-21-2012, 07:42 PM

Man, these Turtle heads of Kuhn's have been reminding me of something. It's been bugging me for a while, but I think I know what it is now.

*Xav* · 08-21-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shreddhead

Lets just hope it doesnt look like this:

I never noticed this before but why does Slash have a Z on his belt?

*Andrew NDB* · 08-21-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

I never noticed this before but why does Slash have a Z on his belt?

Since he's an alien I always just figured that an "S" in whatever alien written language his people practice happens to look like a "Z." Or maybe he flips it around intentionally because either, A) He is a little mental and doesn't realize it's backwards, or B) He's just that badass.

*CyberCubed* · 08-21-2012, 08:44 PM

I really wish Slash wasn't debuting in an Andy issue. Its going to ruin our first impression of what IDW Slash is like.

I'll say it again, the Slash on #16's cover by Ross Campbell is going to look a billion times better than what he looks like inside the book by Andy.

It reminds me of Tales V.2, Michael Dooney would draw this beautiful frontipiece that set the mood for the issue and then we went from that to Jim Lawson's style and the feeling was lost. Granted I am saying this as a fan of Lawson's art, his Turtles are fantastic, but given the choice between the two I would have went with Dooney.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-21-2012, 08:48 PM

It might be Leatherhead.

*Jephael* · 08-21-2012, 09:27 PM

I just took a look at the preview, and I don't understand what the big fuss is all about. I kinda like the artwork for this issue!

nelodiavolo · 08-21-2012, 11:43 PM

Separated at birth?

I added mad photoshop skills.

But while I do think the new style looks like a bunch of Maxx's, it still looks good to me. A change in style keeps things fresh.

Toby Barrett · 08-22-2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You know, it's a bit like the Hedden/McWeeney Mirage material... except those guys were intentionally trying to make the Turtles look ridiculous.

I think that right there is my major issue with Andy's art.
His style I feel went perfectly well with the Michelangelo micro, because it was just a fun little heist comic, and I think the artstyle added to that.
But here, it's supposed to be a serious story, with Splinter teaching Raph the "true way of the ninja" and Casey bruised up from parental abuse...

And it's being drawn by someone who just doesn't really fit the bill for that kind of story telling...

*CyberCubed* · 08-22-2012, 11:32 AM

The artwork is seriously impacting my enjoyment of this issue.

If only Dan Duncan did it I would probably enjoy it 100% more. (And yes, I know Duncan was taking a break around this time even if he didn't leave entirely).

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-22-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The artwork is seriously impacting my enjoyment of this issue.

If only Dan Duncan did it I would probably enjoy it 100% more. (And yes, I know Duncan was taking a break around this time even if he didn't leave entirely).

If Kuhn can change the way he draws the turtles' teeth it will be fine. Its just that bit which bugs me.

So having read the issue...

Spoiler:

*Plasticplayhouse* · 08-22-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It reminds me of Tales V.2, Michael Dooney would draw this beautiful frontipiece that set the mood for the issue and then we went from that to Jim Lawson's style and the feeling was lost. Granted I am saying this as a fan of Lawson's art, his Turtles are fantastic, but given the choice between the two I would have went with Dooney.

in all fairness to Jim (who's work i am a fan of) his stuff looks a lot better when he inks it than when the majority of others have inked it. when he inks it, you get the full effect of his work and its got pizzaz.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrible2z/3274964743/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrible2z/3696761725/

others...not so much

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Originally Posted by nelodiavolo

Separated at birth?

I added mad photoshop skills.

But while I do think the new style looks like a bunch of Maxx's, it still looks good to me. A change in style keeps things fresh.

lol

corvus · 08-22-2012, 12:35 PM

Looks like a fantastic issue too bad comixology won't let me download it.

*Slade* · 08-22-2012, 05:28 PM

Read the issue thought it was good. The end actually had me do a double take.

As for the art? Well...every character EXCEPT the turtles looked good. It's not even just the teeth. Their entire heads just look strange. A panel on page 3 with Raph's head had took me out of the book for a second or two. Enough complaining about the art though, I still enjoyed the issue.

By the way, anyone have Cover B they'd maybe trade for A? Just tossing that out there.

Matches Malone · 08-22-2012, 06:22 PM

I thought the issue was pretty solid. I'll give Tom this, he's got a really nice finesse handling and setting up multiple storylines. It's mostly the payoff I tend to be let down by. Again, I'm intrigued and excited for what's to follow with Baxter/Krang, Shredder/Karai and Raph/Splinter.

I also thought Karai had a really nice character moment displaying that she's not blindly obedient to Saki. I wonder who he has in mind for second in command? BEBOP OR ROCKSTEADY? Kidding. I hope.

Regarding the art, I actually enjoyed it for the most part. The turtles look a little off, yes, but with how warped their heads were becoming with Duncan, these are preferred at the moment. I'm bothered more by the sloppily tied belts, to be honest. Still, it's a little sad it's so though to get a mainstay artist who can consistently turn in good work for the monthly series. It's a tall order but let's hope whoever is chosen as the permanent replacement is up to the task!

08-21-2012, 02:45 PM	#41
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,506	You know, it's a bit like the Hedden/McWeeney Mirage material... except those guys were intentionally trying to make the Turtles look ridiculous. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

08-21-2012, 06:42 PM	#46
strugler Thug Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 73	Just posted my review of issue 13. Enjoy: http://www.tmntlair.com/2012/08/22/r...ja-turtles-13/ __________________ Visit www.tmntlair.com, your one stop source for everything Ninja turtles related.

08-21-2012, 07:42 PM	#47
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,506	Man, these Turtle heads of Kuhn's have been reminding me of something. It's been bugging me for a while, but I think I know what it is now. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

08-21-2012, 08:48 PM	#51
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,506	It might be Leatherhead. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

08-21-2012, 09:27 PM	#52
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I just took a look at the preview, and I don't understand what the big fuss is all about. I kinda like the artwork for this issue! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

08-21-2012, 05:37 PM	#45
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 2,245	Frankly, I don't care about the teeth that much.

08-21-2012, 08:44 PM	#50
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,835	I really wish Slash wasn't debuting in an Andy issue. Its going to ruin our first impression of what IDW Slash is like. I'll say it again, the Slash on #16's cover by Ross Campbell is going to look a billion times better than what he looks like inside the book by Andy. It reminds me of Tales V.2, Michael Dooney would draw this beautiful frontipiece that set the mood for the issue and then we went from that to Jim Lawson's style and the feeling was lost. Granted I am saying this as a fan of Lawson's art, his Turtles are fantastic, but given the choice between the two I would have went with Dooney.

08-21-2012, 11:43 PM	#53
nelodiavolo Thug Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 97	Separated at birth? I added mad photoshop skills. But while I do think the new style looks like a bunch of Maxx's, it still looks good to me. A change in style keeps things fresh.

08-22-2012, 11:32 AM	#55
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,835	The artwork is seriously impacting my enjoyment of this issue. If only Dan Duncan did it I would probably enjoy it 100% more. (And yes, I know Duncan was taking a break around this time even if he didn't leave entirely).

08-22-2012, 12:35 PM	#58
corvus Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 783	Looks like a fantastic issue too bad comixology won't let me download it. __________________

08-22-2012, 05:28 PM	#59
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	Read the issue thought it was good. The end actually had me do a double take. As for the art? Well...every character EXCEPT the turtles looked good. It's not even just the teeth. Their entire heads just look strange. A panel on page 3 with Raph's head had took me out of the book for a second or two. Enough complaining about the art though, I still enjoyed the issue. By the way, anyone have Cover B they'd maybe trade for A? Just tossing that out there. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

08-22-2012, 06:22 PM	#60
Matches Malone Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: California Posts: 954	I thought the issue was pretty solid. I'll give Tom this, he's got a really nice finesse handling and setting up multiple storylines. It's mostly the payoff I tend to be let down by. Again, I'm intrigued and excited for what's to follow with Baxter/Krang, Shredder/Karai and Raph/Splinter. I also thought Karai had a really nice character moment displaying that she's not blindly obedient to Saki. I wonder who he has in mind for second in command? BEBOP OR ROCKSTEADY? Kidding. I hope. Regarding the art, I actually enjoyed it for the most part. The turtles look a little off, yes, but with how warped their heads were becoming with Duncan, these are preferred at the moment. I'm bothered more by the sloppily tied belts, to be honest. Still, it's a little sad it's so though to get a mainstay artist who can consistently turn in good work for the monthly series. It's a tall order but let's hope whoever is chosen as the permanent replacement is up to the task! __________________ "Baxter, you slime puppy!"