Republicans push for an amendment that would ban abortion; even if the woman is raped

[psych23232323]

Apparently, the Republican Party is trying to get a "human life amendment" pushed through that would make abortion illegal; even in cases of rape or incest.

They want to basically have the Fourteenth Amendment of the US Constitution to apply to unborn babies as well.

Mitt Romney; representing the Republican Party in this year's Presidential Election; is supporting that abortion should be illegal but should be allowed in cases of rape.

His VP Candidate, Paul Ryan, was against abortion, even in cases of rape, but has changed his tone to allow abortion in rape circumstances.

Todd Akin, a U.S. senate candidate, made statements of how pregnancy can't occur if a woman is raped; something along the lines of her tension from the rape causes hormones to be released that prevent pregnancy from occurring; something like that.

Romney and Ryan are against his statements but it's now become a hot issue.


I personally would not support an anti-abortion law. I just don't like the government taking away rights from people that they've been entitled to have for a long time.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1818532.html

[Spitfire]

Won't ever happen. Even if it did pass it would take one person to die from an illegal basement abortion for them to revoke it. I think the Republicans are trying campaign with insanity this time around. Every week they come up with some crazy thing they want to do.

[Leo656]

I was gonna say the same exact thing, bro. I think it's pretty clear this election is fixed (like they all are). It's the same script as 1996, weak Democrat candidate whose biggest hook is that he's not his opponent.

In fact, anyone notice that as soon as it looked like Romney might actually win, he and his associates started acting batsh*t crazy? I swear it's fixed, and they'r just not "supposed" to win this time, and are taking no chances. Obama will win, then in 4 years the Repulican candidate will win. You start to see patterns if you pay close enough attention to this nonsense.

[Cure]

I remember when these threads were locked right away.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Cure

I remember when these threads were locked right away.

Yeah....those were the days.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

At least the Chick-Fil-A thread wasn't so controversial, and fizzled out on its own.

[Leo656]

I still fundamentally disagree with the idea that a bunch of grown-ups can't discuss grown-up things on a message board.

[mysterycolor]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I still fundamentally disagree with the idea that a bunch of grown-ups can't discuss grown-up things on a message board.

i agree, i wish more topics could be freely discussed.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by psych23232323

I personally would not support an anti-abortion law. I just don't like the government taking away rights from people that they've been entitled to have for a long time.

I personally don't like abortion. I support giving rights to those who don't have them.

Originally Posted by Leo656

I still fundamentally disagree with the idea that a bunch of grown-ups can't discuss grown-up things on a message board.

And you actually think conspiracy theories are grown-up things?

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Xav

I personally support giving rights to those who don't have them.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
- Declaration of Independence (emphasis mine)

[mysterycolor]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I was gonna say the same exact thing, bro. I think it's pretty clear this election is fixed (like they all are). It's the same script as 1996, weak Democrat candidate whose biggest hook is that he's not his opponent.

In fact, anyone notice that as soon as it looked like Romney might actually win, he and his associates started acting batsh*t crazy? I swear it's fixed, and they'r just not "supposed" to win this time, and are taking no chances. Obama will win, then in 4 years the Repulican candidate will win. You start to see patterns if you pay close enough attention to this nonsense.

what patterns? let's take a look at the amount of time each party has controlled office- starting in 2012 and working our way back...
current- 4yrs democratic party (obama)
8yrs republican party (g.w. bush)
8yrs democratic party (clinton)
12yrs republican party (g.h.w bush & reagan)
4 yrs democratic party (carter)
8 yrs republican party (ford & nixon)
8yrs democratic party (kennedy & johnson)
4 yrs republican party (eisenhower)
20yrs democratic party (Roosevelt & Truman)

the serving 8yrs and switching parties stops with George H.W. Bush, as he only served one term... technically if you are looking for patterns we are more likely to only see Obama serve one term because out of the 12 names (excludes Obama) only 5 have successfully served 2 (or more) full terms as president.

[Candy Kappa]

The US politicians are a lot more entertaining then ours.

[psych23232323]

Originally Posted by Cure

I remember when these threads were locked right away.

I was just posting what was currently happening; kept seeing it on news sites I visit, so I thought it was important for people to know.

If it's going to cause problems, then I'll stop posting. I'd delete them but there's no way I can do that.

There should be a feature that allows me to delete posts if they are going to cause problems for people.

[Katie]

Originally Posted by Jester

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
- Declaration of Independence (emphasis mine)

So if, God forbid, your wife was violently raped and became pregnant from that rape (yes, senator Akin, that can happen) you would want herf to carry that child to term and give birth to it......a daily 9 month reminder of that rape?

I probably would never have an abortion unless I was raped or would die from carrying the child. But I'm also not going to tell some other woman how to handle her body....and I'm definitely not for old white men making laws that dictate what I can or can't do with my own reproductive health.

[oldmanwinters]

I usually try to avoid these types of threads like the plague, but I think Jester deserves a little back-up as the poor token conservative.

Rape, under any circumstances is a horrible thing. But even that doesn't give the victimized mother a right to take away her unborn child's life.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I usually try to avoid these types of threads like the plague, but I think Jester deserves a little back-up as the poor token conservative.

Rape, under any circumstances is a horrible thing. But even that doesn't give the victimized mother a right to take away her unborn child's life.

Very much agreed. Abortion is a selfish and murderous act. Take the positives out such a harrowing experiance and deal with the issue like a grown-up.

[PAAATE]

It's fighting abortion that's a selfish act. Trying to impose your beliefs on another person, because.... Why? Why do people feel the need to invade other peoples privacy like that? Some people believe abortion is wrong, they will never have one. Fine. That's their decision, I don't care. Some people believe it's right. They might get one. Fine, okay. Once again, I don't care.

Why do we care what other people do, as long as it doesn't affect us? It's such a disgusting, authoritarian state of mind. I mean, for all the liberty, independence and freedom that Americans like to talk about, some of you sure like to remove those same values from other individuals.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Very much agreed. Abortion is a selfish and murderous act. Take the positives out such a harrowing experiance and deal with the issue like a grown-up.

Are you ****ing kidding me? "Positives" of rape... I mean, sure. Between the physical and emotional trauma, I'm sure it's a ****ing party.

[The Stryker]

Raise the baby of the man that raped you! Hey! You didn't want to have sex or get impregnated that day but you got both! Bonus! Look at the positives! Now you're forced to raise a baby you don't want! All that joy and wonder of spending money and resources to raise the child of a rapist is now yours!

Oh boy! Rape me now!

[Xav]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Raise the baby of the man that raped you! Hey! You didn't want to have sex or get impregnated that day but you got both! Bonus! Look at the positives! Now you're forced to raise a baby you don't want! All that joy and wonder of spending money and resources to raise the child of a rapist is now yours!

Oh boy! Rape me now!

Well that's an extreme example, but even than there's always adoption.

Originally Posted by PAAATE

It's fighting abortion that's a selfish act. Trying to impose your beliefs on another person, because.... Why? Why do people feel the need to invade other peoples privacy like that? Some people believe abortion is wrong, they will never have one. Fine. That's their decision, I don't care. Some people believe it's right. They might get one. Fine, okay. Once again, I don't care.

Why do we care what other people do, as long as it doesn't affect us? It's such a disgusting, authoritarian state of mind. I mean, for all the liberty, independence and freedom that Americans like to talk about, some of you sure like to remove those same values from other individuals.

Because a lot people think abortion is murder, and don't think people should have the right to murder their own children.

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by Xav

Well that's an extreme example, but even than there's always adoption.

Extreme? A very real example. Sure, in an ironic voice, but still. That's the reality right there.

Originally Posted by Xav

Because a lot people think abortion is murder, and don't think people should have the right to murder their own children.

And a lot of people don't think it's murder. Once again, why do you care? Should we ban meat since a lot of people think that's murder?

And don't say "Meat is something natural, we're designed to eat blah-blah-blah", because we've been aborting pregnancies since we learned how pregnancies work all those thousands of years ago.