April being re-imagined as younger and younger in new incarnations

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2012, 12:08 PM

It seems to me as if, "the powers that be," felt that April was way too old in Mirage, the original cartoon, and the movies. She was always in her mid/late 20's in each, making her a full grown adult.

The 4kids series was the first to have a younger April, I believe it was stated she was only 23 in some of the old 4kids character bios back in the day.

In the IDW comics she's around the same age, a College student and an intern.

And in the Nick cartoon she's 16.

And for the new movie, it sounds like April/Casey will be 18-19 year olds.

Do you feel that having a younger April (and Casey) is something done to make them more relateable to the audience?

Lance_Steele · 08-29-2012, 03:17 PM

I don't get that.

It would make sense if she was in her 20s because she's an adult to balance out the TMNT's youth. I dunno...

Why change the age?

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance_Steele

I don't get that.

It would make sense if she was in her 20s because she's an adult to balance out the TMNT's youth. I dunno...

Why change the age?

According to the Nick writers its because they want her to grow up with the Turtles. And be a sister to them rather than a "den mother," as Rob Paulsen said.

*pannoni1* · 08-29-2012, 06:51 PM

Actually, it was said that April will not be a teenager for the new movie. While I'll be too young to relate to April for the new series, for the targeted audience it should work out fine. With this, that leaves Splinter as the "den parent", and Splinter is much more of a den father than OT April ever was a den mother, since Splinter tends to reserve for fighting. That's why characters like Joi, Mona Lisa, and Kala work more appropriately for teenage crushes, though Don could always like April even if she's quite a bit older than him. Some people don't like it since this April could essentially be a human Venus.

*zkarlette* · 08-29-2012, 10:29 PM

I don't see any comparison between Venus and April..I think they just wan't to give it a different spin on things. I personally don't think it needs the change...

*Andrew NDB* · 08-29-2012, 10:49 PM

I don't see any real need to reimagine April, or to devolve her into something she's not supposed to be.

And that's all I really have to say about that.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 08-29-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't see any real need to reimagine April, or to devolve her into something she's not supposed to be.

And that's all I really have to say about that.

Agreed dude

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 08-29-2012, 11:16 PM

I do prefer April in the "big sister" role. The Turtles all have each other as peers anyway. I don't see a need to make April their age.

With that said, I'm still wondering what will be in store for April O'Neil as a high schooler, and I'm looking forward to the new series.

Funny thing is, for the longest time, despite the word "teenage" in the title, I always saw the TMNT as adults, albeit "man children". Probably because I started watching TMNT as a pre-schooler, so from that perspective they were practically grown ups. That POV kind of stuck for a while.

Bossa Nova · 08-29-2012, 11:27 PM

I can understand April becoming a teenager for the new Nick series as the target audience would likely relate to her better and appreciate her more in that sort of role. Personally, it's not my preferred role for her, as I really like her role as a mother figure with her generally in the later 20's or early 30's age bracket. Motherly doesn't have to mean boring and old-ladyish either, and I think other versions of April have proven that. Still, I don't mind her as a teenager too much, as I'll have to wait and see the actual show before fully forming my opinion.

I do know I greatly dislike this whole 'Don having a crush' on her deal though, since when she was older it seemed like a silly aside I could easily ignore or even find endearing in its own way(didn't all the turtles crush on her in the first film anyway cause she was a "babe?"). But with her being closer to his age I could see this turning into a story point that will be revisited more than once. Not looking forward to that. At all.

*Powder* · 08-30-2012, 12:12 AM

I'm fine with whatever, April is virtually the same character in every universe (short of her profession) regardless of age. So long as she's not a child, being entirely useless, they can do as they wish with her age.

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 08-30-2012, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The 4kids series was the first to have a younger April, I believe it was stated she was only 23 in some of the old 4kids character bios back in the day.

Actually, I think she was more or less the same age in the 2k3 series as she was in the 1987 series. I remember reading that she was in her early 20s in the '87 series, and I guess everybody just assumes that she was older than that.

I have no idea how old she was in the original comics, though.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-30-2012, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't see any real need to reimagine April, or to devolve her into something she's not supposed to be.

Where do you get off saying what is and isnt "supposed to be" in a franchise that has constantly reinvented the interpretation of the characters over the decades?

**Jester** · 08-30-2012, 04:44 AM

April has always had a set purpose: the Turtles' closest human friend and window to the outside world. There's a lot of wiggle room there.

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 08-30-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Where do you get off saying what is and isnt "supposed to be" in a franchise that has constantly reinvented the interpretation of the characters over the decades?

To be fair, Andrew's pretty consistent with his opinion. He doesn't really care for any reinventing, since I believe he's a bit of an original comics purist, for the most part. So while the franchise may be constantly reinventing itself, he doesn't really like any of said reinventing.

I apologize if it seems like I'm answering for someone else, or making complete assumptions.

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Originally Posted by Jester

April has always had a set purpose: the Turtles' closest human friend and window to the outside world. There's a lot of wiggle room there.

Ya, I think I agree. I'm still a little weirded out by April being so young in the new series, I'll admit, but at the same time... I don't think it's quite that big of a deal, like so many have made it out to be. It certainly is nowhere near the levels of reinventing the TMNT as aliens. But there's no way anyone would ever do that. That's just silly.

But, ya, so long as April is still used as the TMNT's link to the human world, and a close, personal friend, then there's still much that they could with her and keep true to the character's purpose.

Hmmm... I dunno, though. I think I'll still reserve complete judgment on this new April until I actually see how she works.

*The Stryker* · 08-30-2012, 07:44 AM

I'd rather have April as a teen over her being a sad 30 something with nothing to do but hang around with teenage mutant turtles.

Plus, why not change it up a bit? It's been like 20 years homies.

**GK Punk** · 08-30-2012, 07:52 AM

I actually agree with Stryker on this. Plus if she's a teen as well it makes more sense for her to relate personality wise with the TMNT, as well as with the younger audience.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-30-2012, 07:58 AM

While I'm not entirely sure about April being a teenager, I can see why Nick did that. They want to have her relate more to the Turtles on a teen level, something she couldn't do as an adult. But then again, there will still be problems as she won't be independent and will have to answer to her parents about the Turtles. I prefer her as an adult and the big sister type, but I'm willing to wait and see what happens with this new incarnation.

FoxZerro · 08-30-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

April has always had a set purpose: the Turtles' closest human friend and window to the outside world. There's a lot of wiggle room there.

I think that April works very well in that purpose, the problem I have is when she's older it seems like she's experienced more of the world and will be able to actually guide an educate the Turtles as their embassador to world. If she's younger then there's a lot she doesn't know about either and it feels like she's experiencing rather than educating the turtles on what it is to be human and live in the modern world.

I suppose when you make Splinter a former human, like they are doing in the Nick series, then you have him to fulfull that role. Still it feels odd to make her essentially one of the gang as opposed to a semi-mentor.

*chrisdude* · 08-30-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

While I'm not entirely sure about April being a teenager, I can see why Nick did that. They want to have her relate more to the Turtles on a teen level, something she couldn't do as an adult. But then again, there will still be problems as she won't be independent and will have to answer to her parents about the Turtles. I prefer her as an adult and the big sister type, but I'm willing to wait and see what happens with this new incarnation.

I just imagined the Turtles hiding out in the antique shop while it's still in business!

Logan · 08-30-2012, 08:44 AM

I'm not crazy about them making April a teen, but I'll wait and see if it works for the new toon.

08-29-2012, 12:08 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,813	April being re-imagined as younger and younger in new incarnations It seems to me as if, "the powers that be," felt that April was way too old in Mirage, the original cartoon, and the movies. She was always in her mid/late 20's in each, making her a full grown adult. The 4kids series was the first to have a younger April, I believe it was stated she was only 23 in some of the old 4kids character bios back in the day. In the IDW comics she's around the same age, a College student and an intern. And in the Nick cartoon she's 16. And for the new movie, it sounds like April/Casey will be 18-19 year olds. Do you feel that having a younger April (and Casey) is something done to make them more relateable to the audience?

08-29-2012, 03:17 PM	#2
Lance_Steele Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Killeen, Texas Posts: 139	I don't get that. It would make sense if she was in her 20s because she's an adult to balance out the TMNT's youth. I dunno... Why change the age? __________________ Warning! Objects in mirror are closer than they appear...

08-29-2012, 06:51 PM	#4
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	Actually, it was said that April will not be a teenager for the new movie. While I'll be too young to relate to April for the new series, for the targeted audience it should work out fine. With this, that leaves Splinter as the "den parent", and Splinter is much more of a den father than OT April ever was a den mother, since Splinter tends to reserve for fighting. That's why characters like Joi, Mona Lisa, and Kala work more appropriately for teenage crushes, though Don could always like April even if she's quite a bit older than him. Some people don't like it since this April could essentially be a human Venus. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

08-29-2012, 10:29 PM	#5
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	I don't see any comparison between Venus and April..I think they just wan't to give it a different spin on things. I personally don't think it needs the change... __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

08-29-2012, 10:49 PM	#6
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,425	I don't see any real need to reimagine April, or to devolve her into something she's not supposed to be. And that's all I really have to say about that. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

08-29-2012, 11:16 PM	#8
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I do prefer April in the "big sister" role. The Turtles all have each other as peers anyway. I don't see a need to make April their age. With that said, I'm still wondering what will be in store for April O'Neil as a high schooler, and I'm looking forward to the new series. Funny thing is, for the longest time, despite the word "teenage" in the title, I always saw the TMNT as adults, albeit "man children". Probably because I started watching TMNT as a pre-schooler, so from that perspective they were practically grown ups. That POV kind of stuck for a while.

08-29-2012, 11:27 PM	#9
Bossa Nova Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States, California Posts: 592	I can understand April becoming a teenager for the new Nick series as the target audience would likely relate to her better and appreciate her more in that sort of role. Personally, it's not my preferred role for her, as I really like her role as a mother figure with her generally in the later 20's or early 30's age bracket. Motherly doesn't have to mean boring and old-ladyish either, and I think other versions of April have proven that. Still, I don't mind her as a teenager too much, as I'll have to wait and see the actual show before fully forming my opinion. I do know I greatly dislike this whole 'Don having a crush' on her deal though, since when she was older it seemed like a silly aside I could easily ignore or even find endearing in its own way(didn't all the turtles crush on her in the first film anyway cause she was a "babe?"). But with her being closer to his age I could see this turning into a story point that will be revisited more than once. Not looking forward to that. At all.

08-30-2012, 12:12 AM	#10
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	I'm fine with whatever, April is virtually the same character in every universe (short of her profession) regardless of age. So long as she's not a child, being entirely useless, they can do as they wish with her age.

08-30-2012, 04:44 AM	#13
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,296	April has always had a set purpose: the Turtles' closest human friend and window to the outside world. There's a lot of wiggle room there. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-30-2012, 07:44 AM	#15
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	I'd rather have April as a teen over her being a sad 30 something with nothing to do but hang around with teenage mutant turtles. Plus, why not change it up a bit? It's been like 20 years homies. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

08-30-2012, 07:52 AM	#16
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I actually agree with Stryker on this. Plus if she's a teen as well it makes more sense for her to relate personality wise with the TMNT, as well as with the younger audience.

08-30-2012, 07:58 AM	#17
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	While I'm not entirely sure about April being a teenager, I can see why Nick did that. They want to have her relate more to the Turtles on a teen level, something she couldn't do as an adult. But then again, there will still be problems as she won't be independent and will have to answer to her parents about the Turtles. I prefer her as an adult and the big sister type, but I'm willing to wait and see what happens with this new incarnation. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-30-2012, 08:44 AM	#20
Logan Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 483	I'm not crazy about them making April a teen, but I'll wait and see if it works for the new toon. __________________ We're a team; and as a team let's go kick some ass! -Leonardo Logan the Layman Critic, a youtube channel for movie reviews and animation appreciation. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjn...xrKPml1WlYh6Mw