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**Jester** · 08-28-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

I could see it making an interesting elseworld comic book, but certainly not a feature film.

IDW should totally do a Multiverse imprint....it would allow for new takes, and new stories from existing universes.

cartoonistaaron · 08-28-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Lol, I can't believe I'm virtually the only one who thought it would make a really rad elseworld flick.

I think it'd be a fun "Elseworlds" style story, but if they're gonna dump millions into a movie, it's not the story I'd like to see. There are so many facets of the property original to the comics (and the cartoon!) that I've longed to see realized in live-action since I was a kid... I'd like to see Triceratons and a Fugitoid and maybe Rocksteady and Bebop or Krang (closer to their cartoon incarnations than in this script).

This script does give me hope, though, that my own self-published ideas are ripe for the plucking by some big-name Hollywood producer. I mean, if THIS crap can sell...

*BubblyShell22* · 08-28-2012, 08:21 AM

Wow. That script sounds terrible, but I'm not going to panic. After all, it was rejected, so I highly doubt all of this stuff will even be in the movie. Some of it might be, but not all. Even though I've never been fond of the aliens aspect, I now think it would be an interesting twist in the universe if done the right way. Don't overreact, people. This isn't the final product. Just chill out.

Bob · 08-28-2012, 09:37 AM

I think that's the thing we have to remember, it was rejected, or at least that draft (although I still it was more to with money, than anything else). Another thing we have to remember, though, is that no other writers have come on board, which means they're, at least for now, sticking with these two writers, which also means that they're working from the same skeletal structure at least. Of course, that could all change within the next couple of months.

One thing I have been thinking of, though, is that this script is from January this year. It was likely written and completed before the director was hired. When a director comes on board a project, they come on board with their own ideas, and the script usually goes through further changes as a result of that. So its very likely Jonathan Liebesman would have brought his own things to the table. So, for better or worse, the script has definitely gone through changes by now.

I do think that if there are any more delays, though, the first person to leave will be Jonathan Liebesman. After all, he wants work and he’s not going to wait around for Paramount to twiddle their thumbs. Then another writer(s) will definitely be brought on board. May 2014 is still a hell of a long way off, though, so the start of real post-production is still quite far off (by about three months). I don’t see why people think it won’t make that date. No films that are scheduled for summer 2014 have started production yet.

*CyberCubed* · 08-28-2012, 09:47 AM

They need to trash everything though. Even stuff like Casey being the main character while the Turtles are supporting cast is an awful idea.

It's like the writers think we can't relate to mutant turtles that we need a pretty boy Casey and his hot girlfriend with huge boobs April to carry the movie.

Instead of how April and Casey should be, average looking folks.

Genesis · 08-28-2012, 09:49 AM

You know, there's a way that they could put a human in the proverbial front seat of the film that I expected since the whole "Bay" thing began. The focus could potentially start on Chet. I always thought the kid should have had a larger role, and it gives them that "grounded" beginning they seemed to think was so appropriate for the first hour of Transformers.

Maybe they can skip out on the teenage drama bullcrap, this time around.

n-zero · 08-28-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

hot girlfriend with huge boobs April to carry the movie.

April having huge boobs wouldn't be a massive change.

*Donnie* · 08-28-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Genesis

You know, there's a way that they could put a human in the proverbial front seat of the film that I expected since the whole "Bay" thing began. The focus could potentially start on Chet. I always thought the kid should have had a larger role, and it gives them that "grounded" beginning they seemed to think was so appropriate for the first hour of Transformers.

Maybe they can skip out on the teenage drama bullcrap, this time around.

I kind of like the idea of Chet kicking things off. Although, they COULD give that role to Casey, even. He could be the original owner and when they mutate he joins them as a vigilante. Kind of odd, but I guess it could work.

*The Stryker* · 08-28-2012, 10:12 AM

Yeah. Making Chet a fully formed character would muck it up I think unless he replaced Casey Jones then you have the Turtles with 3 human companions.

I don't think that'll help with the 'humans the star over turtles' issue. So it's probably better to make their kid owner April or Casey to save time and character real estate. If they even use that origin that is.

Genesis · 08-28-2012, 10:27 AM

I suppose that's true. April is a totally necessary character, but I don't think it would be so bad to forego Casey, at least for the first film ('cause, y'know, everything is a freakin' trilogy, these days). Maybe they can make Chet die. Who knows?

cartoonistaaron · 08-28-2012, 11:32 AM

Could they maybe just focus on something that DOESN'T involve the Turtles' origin? It seems like that point has been belabored to death, between the first two movies. Let's have the Turtles on an adventure unlike anything that has been in any of the other movies. Send them to D'hoonib, where they and the alien Fugitoid are being chased by the Triceratons, the Federats, and the evil renegade Utrom warlord Krang. That's as crazy as this terrible script but it actually has basis in the source material.

I just don't think "the Turtles are actually aliens" can, in any way, be a good story. I don't care how "well told" a story it is. Kind of like "there was actually a fifth turtle, and she was a GIRL!" Some ideas are just bad.

You've got great characters, an iconic origin story, and enough source material to create a fantastic action/adventure/sci-fi movie. Trying to put your unique "spin" on it isn't necessary. I think comparisons to Transformers are not necessarily appropriate because the Transformers were giant talking robots - the Turtles are basically green humans, in how they act and how they relate to other characters. Following around giant robots for an hour and a half will strike most of the general population as odd, I think, whereas the Turtles are again, for all intents and purposes, humanoid characters and much easier to follow as the main protagonists.

I think most of the population will go see a Turtle movie based on what it looks like in the ads - so why not please the hardcore fans as well as people with fond childhood memories of the property?

Bob · 08-28-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

The action, humor, and effects were going to be there always. No matter what was going to be written, it was going to have those "ingredients." In fact, most tentpole action films have that combination. That's pretty much a given. However, clearly the studio didn't have too much faith in what they were doing. Their problems, reportedly, weren't just nudging the budget down, but a dissatisfaction with the script itself.

Although it seems like it, by “ingredients” I wasn’t just referring to action and special effects. I was also referring to the overall tone and feel of the script.

FoxZerro · 08-28-2012, 12:42 PM

Is a copy of the leaked script available anywhere on line anymore? TMNT not TANT had to remove their link. Even though it sounds like a crappy script I'd still like to read it

thingy · 08-28-2012, 02:48 PM

Wow I completely missed this bit of news. Doesn't sound good but the curious part of me wishes I'd had a read.

*Xav* · 08-28-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by n-zero

April having huge boobs wouldn't be a massive change.

Man Leo looks really rapey in the bottom pic.

*Drose18* · 08-28-2012, 03:57 PM

Haha funny ^
I think itd be wierd to make april or casey the original owners.

*Xav* · 08-28-2012, 04:29 PM

Latino Review just posted a video summary of the script.
http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/...script-review/

Cryomancer · 08-28-2012, 04:52 PM

That video is a pretty good summary of the script. I'm sure it's leaving out a few terrible moments that I'm already forgetting and lots of awful dialog but if you wanna know the storyline and so on and can't find it floating around, just watch that and you'll know the gist of it.

Filespit · 08-28-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

http://latino-review.com just posted a video review.
http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/...script-review/

Ok, so instead of trying to get the script and read it I watched this video to get the picture. All I can say is this; I want to strangle the person who wrote this. Seriously, what is this supposed to be? Apparently not a joke as this was a real script written by a real person, who most probably got paid for it. I know the script/draft was rejected, but I don't know if I care about this movie anymore. I won't make a final judgment until I actually see some footage from the movie, but if it contains anything from this crap of a script then I will officially boycott the damn thing. I will forbid myself to go see it and I will watch Batman & Robin repeatedly for a whole week instead. This script has got nothing to do with my Ninja Turtles and I sure hope Paramount make drastical changes here. If they don't, I'll make the movie I want to see myself. Anyone with me?

Rant over.

*The Stryker* · 08-28-2012, 05:26 PM

I'm gonna boycott this guys movie and watch that sh*tty Casey Jones fanfilm thing all week!

Why we gotta be so violent everybody?

08-28-2012, 08:21 AM	#283
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Wow. That script sounds terrible, but I'm not going to panic. After all, it was rejected, so I highly doubt all of this stuff will even be in the movie. Some of it might be, but not all. Even though I've never been fond of the aliens aspect, I now think it would be an interesting twist in the universe if done the right way. Don't overreact, people. This isn't the final product. Just chill out. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-28-2012, 09:37 AM	#284
Bob Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK, England Posts: 546	I think that's the thing we have to remember, it was rejected, or at least that draft (although I still it was more to with money, than anything else). Another thing we have to remember, though, is that no other writers have come on board, which means they're, at least for now, sticking with these two writers, which also means that they're working from the same skeletal structure at least. Of course, that could all change within the next couple of months. One thing I have been thinking of, though, is that this script is from January this year. It was likely written and completed before the director was hired. When a director comes on board a project, they come on board with their own ideas, and the script usually goes through further changes as a result of that. So its very likely Jonathan Liebesman would have brought his own things to the table. So, for better or worse, the script has definitely gone through changes by now. I do think that if there are any more delays, though, the first person to leave will be Jonathan Liebesman. After all, he wants work and he’s not going to wait around for Paramount to twiddle their thumbs. Then another writer(s) will definitely be brought on board. May 2014 is still a hell of a long way off, though, so the start of real post-production is still quite far off (by about three months). I don’t see why people think it won’t make that date. No films that are scheduled for summer 2014 have started production yet. Last edited by Bob; 08-28-2012 at 09:44 AM.

08-28-2012, 09:49 AM	#286
Genesis Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 624	You know, there's a way that they could put a human in the proverbial front seat of the film that I expected since the whole "Bay" thing began. The focus could potentially start on Chet. I always thought the kid should have had a larger role, and it gives them that "grounded" beginning they seemed to think was so appropriate for the first hour of Transformers. Maybe they can skip out on the teenage drama bullcrap, this time around. __________________ "Kage-Maru embodies the ninja philosophy through his elusiveness, deception, and mobility. A single false move can lose the game, and it is this knife-edge strategy that makes Kage exciting to play and fearsome to play against."

08-28-2012, 10:12 AM	#289
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Yeah. Making Chet a fully formed character would muck it up I think unless he replaced Casey Jones then you have the Turtles with 3 human companions. I don't think that'll help with the 'humans the star over turtles' issue. So it's probably better to make their kid owner April or Casey to save time and character real estate. If they even use that origin that is. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

08-28-2012, 10:27 AM	#290
Genesis Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 624	I suppose that's true. April is a totally necessary character, but I don't think it would be so bad to forego Casey, at least for the first film ('cause, y'know, everything is a freakin' trilogy, these days). Maybe they can make Chet die. Who knows? __________________ "Kage-Maru embodies the ninja philosophy through his elusiveness, deception, and mobility. A single false move can lose the game, and it is this knife-edge strategy that makes Kage exciting to play and fearsome to play against."

08-28-2012, 09:47 AM	#285
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,794	They need to trash everything though. Even stuff like Casey being the main character while the Turtles are supporting cast is an awful idea. It's like the writers think we can't relate to mutant turtles that we need a pretty boy Casey and his hot girlfriend with huge boobs April to carry the movie. Instead of how April and Casey should be, average looking folks.

08-28-2012, 11:32 AM	#291
cartoonistaaron Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 737	Could they maybe just focus on something that DOESN'T involve the Turtles' origin? It seems like that point has been belabored to death, between the first two movies. Let's have the Turtles on an adventure unlike anything that has been in any of the other movies. Send them to D'hoonib, where they and the alien Fugitoid are being chased by the Triceratons, the Federats, and the evil renegade Utrom warlord Krang. That's as crazy as this terrible script but it actually has basis in the source material. I just don't think "the Turtles are actually aliens" can, in any way, be a good story. I don't care how "well told" a story it is. Kind of like "there was actually a fifth turtle, and she was a GIRL!" Some ideas are just bad. You've got great characters, an iconic origin story, and enough source material to create a fantastic action/adventure/sci-fi movie. Trying to put your unique "spin" on it isn't necessary. I think comparisons to Transformers are not necessarily appropriate because the Transformers were giant talking robots - the Turtles are basically green humans, in how they act and how they relate to other characters. Following around giant robots for an hour and a half will strike most of the general population as odd, I think, whereas the Turtles are again, for all intents and purposes, humanoid characters and much easier to follow as the main protagonists. I think most of the population will go see a Turtle movie based on what it looks like in the ads - so why not please the hardcore fans as well as people with fond childhood memories of the property?

08-28-2012, 12:42 PM	#293
FoxZerro Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 574	Is a copy of the leaked script available anywhere on line anymore? TMNT not TANT had to remove their link. Even though it sounds like a crappy script I'd still like to read it

08-28-2012, 02:48 PM	#294
thingy Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 111	Wow I completely missed this bit of news. Doesn't sound good but the curious part of me wishes I'd had a read.

08-28-2012, 03:57 PM	#296
Drose18 The Catalina Wine Mixer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,865	Haha funny ^ I think itd be wierd to make april or casey the original owners.

08-28-2012, 04:29 PM	#297
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,040	Latino Review just posted a video summary of the script. http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/...script-review/ Last edited by Xav; 08-28-2012 at 06:01 PM.

08-28-2012, 04:52 PM	#298
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	That video is a pretty good summary of the script. I'm sure it's leaving out a few terrible moments that I'm already forgetting and lots of awful dialog but if you wanna know the storyline and so on and can't find it floating around, just watch that and you'll know the gist of it. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

08-28-2012, 05:26 PM	#300
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	I'm gonna boycott this guys movie and watch that sh*tty Casey Jones fanfilm thing all week! Why we gotta be so violent everybody? __________________ @~<3 Mom~@