TMNT 2 Box Office Predictions and Results

[Andrew NDB]

"#1 Movie" of last weekend is pretty meaningless. What, it went up against X-Men: Apocalypse in its third week and won? What a victory.

[TigerClaw]

Found this new video of Dave Green's Interview on TMNT 2
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-capture...-for-turtles-2

[Vicky82]

BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice 2m2 minutes ago
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2 earned $2.841 on Monday and has grossed $38.157M in 4 days domestically. #TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles

https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status/740280976631332864

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And it pretty much cut-and-pasted their exaggerated personalities from the cartoon. The constant slapstick element, sight gags, the feel and tone. There's jokes and humor in Mirage but not anywhere near this.

The movie itself, basically Danny: The Movie, starring the evil Darth Shredder and his halfway house for troubled New York youths. All of that has very, very little to do with Mirage on any level, and it's like the spine of the movie.

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the movie. It's just pretty wrong for folks to parade it around like it's this near-perfect Mirage adaptation. It's pretty far from that.

Once again, i have to respectfully disagree.

Raph was a hot head in Mirage, not so much in the Fred Wolf cartoon, so Raph character feels much more Mirage inspired than Fred Wolf. Donatello is another character who doesn't resemble their FW counterpart whatsoever.

Leonardo and Michelangelo may slightly resemble their FW counterparts, but they
aren't pinned down into characatures.
Leonardo shows he likes to goof around in the opening "meditation" scene and we see Mikey taken down a notch when Splinter goes missing. They feel rounded and natural, unlike the FW cartoon (and sadly, most tmnt incarnations) where the turtles seem glued to "nerd, leader, goofball, and jerk", with no wiggle room. The Mirage turtles felt well-rounded and so did the 1990 movie turtles, imo.

The plot is a straight rip from the Mirage books, as we both know. Sure, they integrated Danny but it works well enough and gives us a parallel to the issues the turtles are facing. You mention "feel and tone" which are a bit abstract to argue, but i would definitely say the movie had the "feel and tone" of Mirage - the dark streets, rundown buildings, and gritty filter they used to film all absolutely scream Mirage comics to me and remind me of those old scratchy, inky issues.

TMNT 1990 is not only as close as we are going to get to Mirage, but it's also as close as we need to get. Would I take a film more in line with RTNY or CAW? Definitely, but this film definitely carries the spirit of those early Mirage issues and adapts them quite faithfully considering the transition from page to screen can be strenuous. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Kevin seems to heavily share this view as well and he created the darn thing. I've given my own points but I feel it's worth mentioning.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Like it or not, Its the #1 movie in the US.

So were TMNT III AND TMNT 2007 when they released. They still underperformed and didn't get sequels.

[Technogeek29]

#1 movie has lost it's meaning over the years. It's an emptier title than Executive producer.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Bry

So were TMNT III AND TMNT 2007 when they released. They still underperformed and didn't get sequels.

Those were different times back then, the suits and the CGI at the time was expensive to produce, in today's world, everything is digital and easier to make.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice 2m2 minutes ago
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2 earned $2.841 on Monday and has grossed $38.157M in 4 days domestically. #TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles

https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status/740280976631332864

Wow, that's actually pathetic, even Terminator Genisys did better the monday after opening weekend.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice 2m2 minutes ago
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2 earned $2.841 on Monday and has grossed $38.157M in 4 days domestically. #TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles

https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status/740280976631332864

Yeah, not great. Especially when you compare to the movies directly below it:

1. TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: OUT OF THE SHADOWS - $2,841,228
2. X-MEN: APOCALYPSE - $2,428,013
3. ME BEFORE YOU - $2,137,067

An underperforming blockbuster in its second week and a drama-romance with a much smaller opening. And it's barely holding its own against them.

That is a massive Monday drop: 71% down. To compare, the 2014 movie's first Monday brought in $6,670,138, with a 62.6% drop. Oof.

Not many smiles at Paramount over these numbers, I'm sure.

[NinjaPug]

But but but but but the word of mouth for this has been great.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Bry

Yeah, not great. Especially when you compare to the movies directly below it:

1. TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: OUT OF THE SHADOWS - $2,841,228
2. X-MEN: APOCALYPSE - $2,428,013
3. ME BEFORE YOU - $2,137,067

An underperforming blockbuster in its second week and a drama-romance with a much smaller opening. And it's barely holding its own against them.

That is a massive Monday drop: 71% down. To compare, the 2014 movie's first Monday brought in $6,670,138, with a 62.6% drop. Oof.

Not many smiles at Paramount over these numbers, I'm sure.

I'd also love, love to know the marketing budget. As much as I've seen Bebop and Rocksteady TV spots and trailers and marketing everywhere, I bet we're talking about 50-60 million right there alone. And that's probably a conservative estimate.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

BoxOffice ‏@BoxOffice 2m2 minutes ago
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2 earned $2.841 on Monday and has grossed $38.157M in 4 days domestically. #TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles

https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status/740280976631332864

OH. MY. GOD.

I won't dare to dream, but this...this might be 2016's Fantfourstic...

Hoooooly damn.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

OH. MY. GOD.

I won't dare to dream, but this...this might be 2016's Fantfourstic...

Hoooooly damn.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I think it's still a bit early to tell (overseas stuff)...but:

If this is Truly a Bomb after the dust clears?

Then I Will Do This.

[Bry]

I used my Potential Future Footage Machine to check in on The Technodrome Forums if the movie bombs outright:

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/wp-con...rs-crossed.png

Not any pandering to chinese audiences that I'm aware of in this movie so...here's hoping!

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Not any pandering to chinese audiences that I'm aware of in this movie so...here's hoping!

You mean aside from mostly removing all Japanese elements?

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

OH. MY. GOD.

I won't dare to dream, but this...this might be 2016's Fantfourstic...

Hoooooly damn.

Give TMNT back to Mar....oh wait.

Y'know just give it to Marvel anyway.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

OH. MY. GOD.

I won't dare to dream, but this...this might be 2016's Fantfourstic...

Hoooooly damn.

That'd be awesome.

Of course, it'd mean no studio would want to touch the TMNT property for quite a while, but 'no TMNT movies' is sooo much better than the garbage we have now.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

You mean aside from mostly removing all Japanese elements?

Oh sure. But there also aren't any pro Chinese elements(unless people haven't been talking about them), like that one Transformers movie that was basically a Chinese ad at one point.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Give TMNT back to Mar....oh wait.

Y'know just give it to Marvel anyway.

Dear god I'd be just fine with this.