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Old 12-31-2004, 04:46 AM   #21
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Sorry I'm a little behind here, but I just thought I'd point out that the PSP has nowhere near PS2 graphics. Have you seen the screenshots? They're a little better than PS-X maybe, but PS2? No.

DS is just plain more original. I already have one, and I honestly couldn't care less about the PSP. It just never interested me much. Hell, when I heard they were gonna have Animal Crossing, I jumped right on the DS bandwagon. When I went to pick up my DS from EB, I then found out it would be coming out sometime next September, but hey I can wait.

I still don't have any games for it yet... The Metroid demo got old fast and I got tired of sending myself crudely drawn doodle-porn.

I'm just waiting for something good to come along. I gotta say, the launch lineup wasn't exactly spectacular. I want a good RTS to come along. It'd be sweet it they could get Blizzard to do Warcraft of Starcraft for them.
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Old 12-31-2004, 08:47 AM   #22
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Sorry I'm a little behind here, but I just thought I'd point out that the PSP has nowhere near PS2 graphics. Have you seen the screenshots? They're a little better than PS-X maybe, but PS2?
I agree that the PSP is a crappy handheld but that's just not true. The graphics look almost as good as the PS2's. Haven't you seen the "Metal Gear: Acid" or "Ridge Racers" videos?
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Old 12-31-2004, 09:02 AM   #23
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PSP cannot play DVDs. Only movies made for it like FF:AC
I said I doubt it can play DVD's if you read
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Old 12-31-2004, 09:39 AM   #24
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Things to clear up.

1. The PSP plays movies on specially made Universal Media Discs that were created so that Sony could usher in some portable format that people couldn't rip and so they could block the recordable disc media that has lately become they're worst enemy. The things cost more than standard DVD's, and you're having to basically buy the same movies twice, only without the neato DVD extras, because simply put, this ain't DVD. It's the same as how Sony's going to use some new super density DVD's in the Playstation 3 so they can "attempt" to force the public to convert to a new media format. They want this so they can resell every movie ever made on a new format, and if they control the format, they control the licencing fees, as well as what gets released to some extent. In other words, they'd control Hollywood. The MPEG group is a non-biased nutral party....Sony isn't in the slightest. No media company sould ever hold the rights to the standard formats. I don't care who they are. It would just cause a monopoly and drive most companies out of buisness.

2. I've seen the Metal Gear Acid and Ridge Racer videos. They definately look good. Damn good graphically, but PS2 they ain't. More like slightly sub Dreamcast. The Dreamcast still has far better texture mapping than the PS2 ever had to this day. PSP is just scaled sown PS2 hardware. They did that intentionally so they could easily port PS2 games over, or slightly rework existing engines to create cheaply produced new games for quick release on the handheld. The entire PSP idea is just basically an excuse to go for NIntendo's heart. Nintendo is a pain in the ass for Sony. Sony has the bigger market share, but Nintendo keeps raising the bar with they're games, and Sony's having a hard time keeping up. They want to just buy them out and end it, but they can't because NIntendo owns the majority of their own stock (Sega taught them a lesson). Same goes for Microsoft. If they can get Nintendo out of the way, the quality bar goes down, and it becomes easier to convert the gaming industry into a Hollywood driven racket used to create games that arre nothing but tie-in's to the year's Summer blockbuster. Original content is hitting an all time low in gaming. The DS attempts to solve that by giving the artists new tools rather than just using the same old battered paintbrush they've had for the past 15 years.

The PSP is an attempt from Sony to push Nintendo out of they're home market (portables). They know if Nintendo looses money, they have to issue stock to recoup, and at that point, they become buyable. Nintendo knows this, and I believe they will come out fighting this next year the likes of which no one has ever seen before. Not, during the NES era, not during the console war of '91, not during anything we have seen. They will rise and conquer Sony. This so called "war of the handhelds" is nothing more than aprelude to the next console war. They know if they slap down the Playstation brand in portables, people will give them a second glance in the console world. The real war hasn't even started......but it will come the second week in May. All hell will break loose, and it isn't going to be pretty.
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:25 AM   #25
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Am I the only one who thinks the whole console war thing is really really stupid?
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:31 AM   #26
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No, it actually is completely retarded. I always said I'd buy every console that has a couple of outstanding games.
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:35 AM   #27
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I f*cking hate this console war talk. Who cares. No one. People are going to buy the systems whether you like it or not. Just because GameCube can be thrown off a building and have it still playable does NOT make it better than the others.
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:36 AM   #28
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If the game companies could just put out the games that they're fans want to play, and everyone make money and be happy, then the world would be a better place. Sadly, all everyone is concerned with nowadays is just taking over someone else (points to EA and Microsoft). It sucks.
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:51 AM   #29
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The point to the console wars is this: most people can't afford three $150 machines.

Gamers buy one machine, studios flock to that machine, and in the case with Gamecube you end up missing out a lot of great games (although I strongly belive that Nintendo's offerings make up for that, which is why I got a 'Cube).

And until every system is exactaly the same, there's always going to be "A is better then B" talk. It's always been around, and it always will be. It's sad, really, because that takes away from what they should be focusing on: the games.
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Old 12-31-2004, 12:00 PM   #30
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Well sure it's always going to be around. I'm talking about the fights and arguments taken to the extreme by over zealous fanboys. It's just so damn annoying to read something where someone will say "This system is so sh*tty! I hate it so much. They deserve nothing but death!" then another person will come along and say "Well you're a queer and my system is so much cooler! You should be hung!". All of this is without proper reason. There's no real reason to wish death upon a certain company and all it's followers, or to even hope that company will go out of business. There's no just cause to the "Console Wars". Swapping opinions about various games and consoles, "I enjoy so and so's console!" "Well old chap you've got your points, but I enjoy this console more!" "Good show!", even a little bit of arguing is ok, because expressing opinions tends to cause that. I'd much rather have some healthy debating rather than "My system can fall of a building and still work. So this other system is garbage.". Like I told Ai on MSN, If you're living in a place where your console has a chance of falling of a building, I suggest you dive off the building along with it.
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Old 12-31-2004, 01:04 PM   #31
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If you're living in a place where your console has a chance of falling of a building, I suggest you dive off the building along with it.
Hahaha, yeah Can the GC really be thrown off a building and still work? I'm not trying it with mine anyway!
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Old 12-31-2004, 01:09 PM   #32
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Old 12-31-2004, 01:25 PM   #33
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Sorry I'm a little behind here, but I just thought I'd point out that the PSP has nowhere near PS2 graphics. Have you seen the screenshots? They're a little better than PS-X maybe, but PS2? No.

DS is just plain more original. I already have one, and I honestly couldn't care less about the PSP. It just never interested me much. Hell, when I heard they were gonna have Animal Crossing, I jumped right on the DS bandwagon. When I went to pick up my DS from EB, I then found out it would be coming out sometime next September, but hey I can wait.

I still don't have any games for it yet... The Metroid demo got old fast and I got tired of sending myself crudely drawn doodle-porn.

I'm just waiting for something good to come along. I gotta say, the launch lineup wasn't exactly spectacular. I want a good RTS to come along. It'd be sweet it they could get Blizzard to do Warcraft of Starcraft for them.
Ive read that the graphics are great and that Screen shots do it no justice

Heres what Gamepro said

After sitting in our offices for almost two weeks, the handheld still hasn't lost it's "wow factor," largely eclipsing interest in the Nintendo DS.

The main draw of the handheld is its graphical prowess. Forget Zodiacs, N-Gages, GBAs and any other pocket game platform--the PSP blows others out of the water with an LCD that shows almost no pixilation, and unprecedented 3D graphics. Screenshots don't do the console justice. For those that stayed away from handhelds because of mediocre graphics, this may be the first to pique your interest.

The PSP isn't without flaws or concerns however--one being the UMD drive. Already we've experienced a couple long loading times and freezes where you can hear the motor whirring, trying hard to read the discs. The issues are reminiscent of MD Walkman's giving out after a year's worth of use (disc-based Walkmans in general seem to have a relatively shorter lifespan recently), and these minor hiccups revive such concerns. However, it hasn't faced any serious hang-ups, such as discs bursting from the tray as some news sites have reported, and has overall been pretty reliable.

Another drawback are the controls, both directional keypad and analog stick. The d-pad is a lot more mushy and vague in feel than the PlayStation 2 controller, and there lacks a concrete transition between diagonals, and ups, downs, and so on. The issue surfaces playing Vampire Chronicles--most may find it difficult to execute even the simpler quarter circle fireball moves. The problems in executing moves may be either a software or hardware problem, so there still isn't enough to go on to make definitive conclusions--but Capcom has never been one to skimp on controls for fighting games.

The analog stick seems to face the same issues as the PlayStation 2 did--dead zones and/or dull thresholds. Moving the analog stick slightly in Ridge Racers has no effect, making steering vague (the game still controls well overall, however). While again, there still aren't enough titles to back the finding, it may potentially mean that the console is ill-suited toward first-person shooters, which require pinpoint accuracy to play.

Batteries, despite the pre-release noise generated for low battery life, has been exactly what Sony stated--lasting 4-6 hours.

While the console itself has surpassed expectations, the lack of compelling launch titles means we have yet to see whether or not Sony's PSP will overrun Nintendo's DS as the lead handheld platform. With Nintendo having an already significant user base of 2 million, it won't be an easy fight.

http://www.gamepro.com/sony/psp/hard...es/40689.shtml

Gamepro is the last Magazine to lie about stuff like that they have slammed some games pretty hard
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Old 12-31-2004, 03:06 PM   #34
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The fact that every ad in Gamepro is for Sony makes me take everything thay say with a grain.....no, the whole damn salt mine.

Mushy cross pads are what I hated about the original GBA. They hurt your fingers after 1 hour. I guarntee you all the Final Fantasys will come to DS. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if Sony attempted to buy Square for the betrayl.

It'll do better in the US market simply because people over here are stupid as hell.
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Old 01-01-2005, 08:55 AM   #35
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So, they're willing to have a shoddy console just because the graphics are good?

Psh. Morons.
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:18 PM   #36
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People are shallow minded if magazines tell them its good then people will buy it. Thats how it works. Im pretty sure every magazine is going to kiss Sony's butt and say its the best handheld ever and give it lots of praise. They will pretty much take what is true and warp it to make it sound better. The only reason I agree with that Gamepro article is because their really picky on graphics and them saying something like that has to mean something.
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:36 PM   #37
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How do the graphics on MGS: Acid even get displayed? Isn't it a card game?
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:40 PM   #38
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How do the graphics on MGS: Acid even get displayed? Isn't it a card game?
In a sense yes it is but its not like any other card game Ive ever seen
http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strategy...lid/media.html
Watch a video or two its not like your normal card game. Its looks kinda slow but probly once you get used to it Im sure it gets pretty fun
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:44 PM   #39
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Any kind of card game...and I'm out.
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:49 PM   #40
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I agree it doesnt look to fun like I said. Plus every card game Ive ever had wasnt very good. Like Lost Kingdoms GAH I hate that game I bought in hopes of it holding me over until PSo was released for GC but it didnt help me at all! I also hated PSO 3 the card concept ruined it for me it. The only card game thats still cool is the Pok'emon card game for GBC haha that game was fun
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