Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - Page 2

**Barkworm** · 04-04-2005, 04:17 PM

Alright, just finished it. The game was awesome although the camera and the controls sucked. The story was a lot simpler than the one of MGS2. Actually a very good thing since the story of MGS got more than... let's say strange towards the end. My favourite character was definitely the Boss, the way she kept kicking Snake's ass and even scared Volgin was extremely cool.

*Spitfire* · 04-04-2005, 07:00 PM

I cant enjoy this game. Im tired of sitting through hours of dialog and watching movies that can last up to 40 minutes *cough*the ending*cough*. Its a great game but Konami focus is on the movie portion I guess. I know I could just skip the movies but you kinda wanna know the story after spending all that time playing. I have to say it's the best to date*Though I still like Twin Snakes better* Im not into stealth games anymore...Im into games that give me arthritis with-in 10 minutes

**Barkworm** · 04-05-2005, 01:02 AM

Yeah, if you don't wanna see a lot of movies the MGS series is not for you.

InsaneZane · 04-05-2005, 06:18 PM

I am a fan of the entire metal gear franchise.
As far as gameplay,
I agree, the overhead view gets old, and the only thing its good for is for a good view when pressed against walls and looking at enemies around a corner at a distance....
I found myself switching in and out of 1st person view mode waaaay too much, just in order to see whats in front of me....
I like the first person view mode, but it shouldnt be a press to hold feature....
thats too limited, it should switch between 1st and 3rd person mode freely with the tap of a button, so that when you are in 1st person mode you can actually move forward without reverting ack to 3rd person view......
and further more, i like the crouching feature, but i dont like that i cant move while crouching either, that should be changed too... crawling can be initiated a different way so that we can move while crouching.
And I also think that a solid jump button would've recreated some of the levels to be a little more interesting.
The Camo, Backpack, and MedCare should be easier to access during gameplay, just like the items and weapons.
Other than these flaws, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is the best stealth Action game with access to all the weapons you want (except maybe a flamethrower would be cool)....

And as far as Storyline.....
((((SPOILERS))))
I didnt care for how the Cobras explode after they're defeated in the story...
That takes away from the realism....
I know that the Metal Gear Solid series isnt known for being realistic as far as supernatural powers and stuff, but.... somebody should be slapped when when they have an idea to end the game 's story with The Boss's scar slivering off of her onto the ground like a snake, just because they want to be symbolic with that and all the crass and flowers in the field mysteriously changing color.....yeah, it was dramatic but that is definatly senseless expressionism....and speaking of senseless, I could've done without Volgin feeling up Snake, or The Fury's flaming face ghost thing, or the constant going on and on and on with the excessive blah blah and more blah blah...waste of game's memory to put so much bull crap....
Ohkay, now that i got through the nagative part.... I did enjoy the story.... and the fact that Ocelot picked up the revolver because of Big Boss's advice....and later when Ocelot shot Big Boss's eye... that and Volgin beating the everliving crap out of Snake's face was one of the heaviest cutscenes in video game history I was also wondering how the hell he survived......I like how we get to see Big Boss kinda turn sour at the very end.
And I really hope to see a future game , like a re-make of MG1 and MG2:SS combined since they're old nintendo games....
Or maybe we can see another game that takes place after this, So they can get into detail about forming Fox-Hound and his involvement with Grey Fox before 'Outer Heaven.'

Anyway, despite the negative things i've said i will always be a fan of the Metal Gear franchise...(believe me, i have a lot more bad i can say about MGS2.)
And Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater will be the best of it's kind untill we see yet another Metal Gear.

愛 · 04-07-2005, 09:52 AM

I've been going off and on with this game as far as difficulties go for a good while now. The game truly is wonderful. It's different from the other games, but I actually found that appealing.

*damnhooligan* · 04-07-2005, 05:06 PM

I bought this game for my husband for Christmas, and despite devouring the last MGS in one day, I can't get him to play the game for love or money. I've actually kicked him off his computer, turned the playstation on, shoved the controller in his right hand, a beer in his left and locked the door behind me.

Ten minutes later, he's watching curling on Eurosport.

The controlls just piss him the hell off.

**Barkworm** · 04-08-2005, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by damnhooligan

I've actually kicked him off his computer, turned the playstation on, shoved the controller in his right hand, a beer in his left and locked the door behind me.

I hope you're husband knows that you're the best wife a man could wish for.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 04-08-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by damnhooligan

I've actually kicked him off his computer, turned the playstation on, shoved the controller in his right hand, a beer in his left and locked the door behind me.

Marry me....

PiffDaddy · 05-01-2005, 11:40 PM

Yeah, I believe the straight over-head camera angle was difficult to manage with. For a while I was collecting the Kerotans, but DMC3 has taken away my time. Plus college...

Edit, sorry didn't see how long the previous post was idle for. Didn't mean to pick up a dead topic, My bad.

Shark · 05-03-2005, 08:36 PM

*Some Spoilers*Sadly, I liked this game more than the first two. I hate thwhole 007 rip off, being the main bad guy of the first two games, knowing his fate (which is why I don't like the new Star wars movies, due to knowing the main characters fate anyway), most of the game is made up of jungle (even though the other games were mostly made up of their main thing, at least Big Shell had girly posters all over the place, more so than MGS3 had, and pathetic bad guys (only liked Ocelot and Volgin, but prefer Liquid, Dead Cell, and Fox Hound). Why I like this game the best, I'll never know...But I do prefer the Codec characters here than the others. Zero, Para, Seigt, those are the most hillarious convo's of all time.

clockstomper · 05-05-2005, 12:28 AM

I don't really get the compliants about there being too many movies since you can always skip right to the gameplay in seconds with the tap of a button. I apriciated that there were less mandatory codec calls than in MGS2.

Oh, and I was surprised they were able to explain the whole "Liquid takes over Ocelot's body" within the frameworks of a prequel.

**Barkworm** · 05-05-2005, 01:30 AM

They did?! How?

Shark · 05-05-2005, 02:36 AM

What? How did they explain Liquid? He was a GREAT villain, now he's reduced to an old mans alter ego...how did they explain that?

For that matter, I always heard (GameFAQS guides) Ocelot was Sorrow and Boss's son, but I never heard mention of that in the actual game.

PiffDaddy · 05-09-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark

What? How did they explain Liquid? He was a GREAT villain, now he's reduced to an old mans alter ego...how did they explain that?

For that matter, I always heard (GameFAQS guides) Ocelot was Sorrow and Boss's son, but I never heard mention of that in the actual game.

When you're in the cave, call Eva. She will tell you that Ocelot is only 19, and was pushed to the top ranks because he was the "son of some legendary soldier". And The Boss (forgot where it states this) gave birth on D. Day. They never tell you flat out that he's her kid...

But, there is no reference to the Sorrow except that he was her partner and good friend/romantic interest. Makes sense if he was Ocelot's pop, but there is still some mystery there.

**Barkworm** · 05-09-2005, 11:01 PM

Whoa, interesting. Makes sense though.

Shark · 05-10-2005, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PiffDaddy

When you're in the cave, call Eva. She will tell you that Ocelot is only 19, and was pushed to the top ranks because he was the "son of some legendary soldier". And The Boss (forgot where it states this) gave birth on D. Day. They never tell you flat out that he's her kid...

But, there is no reference to the Sorrow except that he was her partner and good friend/romantic interest. Makes sense if he was Ocelot's pop, but there is still some mystery there.

Which cave? Guessing the one after the Ocelot fight, or behind the waterfall?

PiffDaddy · 05-11-2005, 12:11 AM

Its in the waterfall right after you meet up with Eva. Im pretty sure if you call her right away, or at the back of the cave the convo will happen. That's what happened for me at least...

*Spitfire* · 05-17-2005, 11:31 PM

Okay so my friend lent it to me in exchange for Devil May Cry 3. I decided Hell I beat the others why not this one? I'll say its different. Still too many movies for my taste but it's better then long drawn out radio convos which there arent many so it's good. Snake is really cool in this game. I like the who style of it and all so once I beat it Ill post more of my opinions.
THese graphics, though impressive, still have rough edges and things still look kinda blocky which doesnt matter but I dont see how it's the best looking PS2 game. Graphics dont mean anything to me but yeah....WOW Revolver looks uhhh really gay o_O He looks like a girl or an asain o_O Either way I find it funny how in the first game he doesnt know who Snake is or remembers Snake fromt his one! Plotholessss

Edit: Wow haha I shot Revolver in the head after Knocking him out and they yelled at me and told me I cant do that or it will create a Time Paradox. Cleaver

Shark · 05-18-2005, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Either way I find it funny how in the first game he doesnt know who Snake is or remembers Snake fromt his one! Plotholessss

MGS2 explains everything.

*Spitfire* · 05-18-2005, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark

MGS2 explains everything.

I beat that game 2 years ago o_O I totally forgot most of the story anyone wanna summarize it for me? All I remember is the whole thing was just a virtual reality simulation to get Jack, a clone of Snake?, to be able to act just like Snake and such.

Anyways I just beat "The Pain" I like this game alot actually my only grip, which is a huge one, is the horrible camera angles but other then that it's really cool. I like all the new weapons and how you dont really have to stealth about though getting spotted means getting shot by off screen enemies O_O

04-04-2005, 04:17 PM	#21
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,755	Alright, just finished it. The game was awesome although the camera and the controls sucked. The story was a lot simpler than the one of MGS2. Actually a very good thing since the story of MGS got more than... let's say strange towards the end. My favourite character was definitely the Boss, the way she kept kicking Snake's ass and even scared Volgin was extremely cool. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

04-04-2005, 07:00 PM	#22
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I cant enjoy this game. Im tired of sitting through hours of dialog and watching movies that can last up to 40 minutes coughthe endingcough. Its a great game but Konami focus is on the movie portion I guess. I know I could just skip the movies but you kinda wanna know the story after spending all that time playing. I have to say it's the best to dateThough I still like Twin Snakes better Im not into stealth games anymore...Im into games that give me arthritis with-in 10 minutes __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

04-05-2005, 01:02 AM	#23
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,755	Yeah, if you don't wanna see a lot of movies the MGS series is not for you. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

04-05-2005, 06:18 PM	#24
InsaneZane Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Silent Hill Posts: 1,198	I am a fan of the entire metal gear franchise. As far as gameplay, I agree, the overhead view gets old, and the only thing its good for is for a good view when pressed against walls and looking at enemies around a corner at a distance.... I found myself switching in and out of 1st person view mode waaaay too much, just in order to see whats in front of me.... I like the first person view mode, but it shouldnt be a press to hold feature.... thats too limited, it should switch between 1st and 3rd person mode freely with the tap of a button, so that when you are in 1st person mode you can actually move forward without reverting ack to 3rd person view...... and further more, i like the crouching feature, but i dont like that i cant move while crouching either, that should be changed too... crawling can be initiated a different way so that we can move while crouching. And I also think that a solid jump button would've recreated some of the levels to be a little more interesting. The Camo, Backpack, and MedCare should be easier to access during gameplay, just like the items and weapons. Other than these flaws, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is the best stealth Action game with access to all the weapons you want (except maybe a flamethrower would be cool).... And as far as Storyline..... ((((SPOILERS)))) I didnt care for how the Cobras explode after they're defeated in the story... That takes away from the realism.... I know that the Metal Gear Solid series isnt known for being realistic as far as supernatural powers and stuff, but.... somebody should be slapped when when they have an idea to end the game 's story with The Boss's scar slivering off of her onto the ground like a snake, just because they want to be symbolic with that and all the crass and flowers in the field mysteriously changing color.....yeah, it was dramatic but that is definatly senseless expressionism....and speaking of senseless, I could've done without Volgin feeling up Snake, or The Fury's flaming face ghost thing, or the constant going on and on and on with the excessive blah blah and more blah blah...waste of game's memory to put so much bull crap.... Ohkay, now that i got through the nagative part.... I did enjoy the story.... and the fact that Ocelot picked up the revolver because of Big Boss's advice....and later when Ocelot shot Big Boss's eye... that and Volgin beating the everliving crap out of Snake's face was one of the heaviest cutscenes in video game history I was also wondering how the hell he survived......I like how we get to see Big Boss kinda turn sour at the very end. And I really hope to see a future game , like a re-make of MG1 and MG2:SS combined since they're old nintendo games.... Or maybe we can see another game that takes place after this, So they can get into detail about forming Fox-Hound and his involvement with Grey Fox before 'Outer Heaven.' Anyway, despite the negative things i've said i will always be a fan of the Metal Gear franchise...(believe me, i have a lot more bad i can say about MGS2.) And Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater will be the best of it's kind untill we see yet another Metal Gear. __________________

04-07-2005, 05:06 PM	#26
damnhooligan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dorksville, USA Posts: 1,745	I bought this game for my husband for Christmas, and despite devouring the last MGS in one day, I can't get him to play the game for love or money. I've actually kicked him off his computer, turned the playstation on, shoved the controller in his right hand, a beer in his left and locked the door behind me. Ten minutes later, he's watching curling on Eurosport. The controlls just piss him the hell off. __________________

04-07-2005, 09:52 AM	#25
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	I've been going off and on with this game as far as difficulties go for a good while now. The game truly is wonderful. It's different from the other games, but I actually found that appealing.

05-01-2005, 11:40 PM	#29
PiffDaddy Thug Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 55	Yeah, I believe the straight over-head camera angle was difficult to manage with. For a while I was collecting the Kerotans, but DMC3 has taken away my time. Plus college... Edit, sorry didn't see how long the previous post was idle for. Didn't mean to pick up a dead topic, My bad. __________________ _________________________ ________________________________ You have just read an inspired post. Although the author might not post as many replies, the replies made make up the quantity through the exquisite quality. Truly your life is better having read it. Rejoice.

05-03-2005, 08:36 PM	#30
Shark Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In my Wii, playing with my Wii. Playing with TMNT on the Wii. Wii Play TMNT WEEE!!! Posts: 653	Some SpoilersSadly, I liked this game more than the first two. I hate thwhole 007 rip off, being the main bad guy of the first two games, knowing his fate (which is why I don't like the new Star wars movies, due to knowing the main characters fate anyway), most of the game is made up of jungle (even though the other games were mostly made up of their main thing, at least Big Shell had girly posters all over the place, more so than MGS3 had, and pathetic bad guys (only liked Ocelot and Volgin, but prefer Liquid, Dead Cell, and Fox Hound). Why I like this game the best, I'll never know...But I do prefer the Codec characters here than the others. Zero, Para, Seigt, those are the most hillarious convo's of all time. __________________ The Forum's Un-Official Karai Obsessor!!! And my unhealthy obsession for Karai continues...I need therapy... Enter: Shadow Assassin RP has just started, and still open for new people. Favorite Sloganizer Quotes: "I quit smokeing with Karai.", "Karai on the outside, tasty on the inside." and "I'd sleep with Karai." Man that Sloganizer can be pretty perverted O.o

05-05-2005, 12:28 AM	#31
clockstomper Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 116	I don't really get the compliants about there being too many movies since you can always skip right to the gameplay in seconds with the tap of a button. I apriciated that there were less mandatory codec calls than in MGS2. Oh, and I was surprised they were able to explain the whole "Liquid takes over Ocelot's body" within the frameworks of a prequel.

05-05-2005, 01:30 AM	#32
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,755	They did?! How? __________________ Make ****, not kill!

05-05-2005, 02:36 AM	#33
Shark Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In my Wii, playing with my Wii. Playing with TMNT on the Wii. Wii Play TMNT WEEE!!! Posts: 653	What? How did they explain Liquid? He was a GREAT villain, now he's reduced to an old mans alter ego...how did they explain that? For that matter, I always heard (GameFAQS guides) Ocelot was Sorrow and Boss's son, but I never heard mention of that in the actual game. __________________ The Forum's Un-Official Karai Obsessor!!! And my unhealthy obsession for Karai continues...I need therapy... Enter: Shadow Assassin RP has just started, and still open for new people. Favorite Sloganizer Quotes: "I quit smokeing with Karai.", "Karai on the outside, tasty on the inside." and "I'd sleep with Karai." Man that Sloganizer can be pretty perverted O.o

05-09-2005, 11:01 PM	#35
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,755	Whoa, interesting. Makes sense though. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

05-11-2005, 12:11 AM	#37
PiffDaddy Thug Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 55	Its in the waterfall right after you meet up with Eva. Im pretty sure if you call her right away, or at the back of the cave the convo will happen. That's what happened for me at least... __________________ _________________________ ________________________________ You have just read an inspired post. Although the author might not post as many replies, the replies made make up the quantity through the exquisite quality. Truly your life is better having read it. Rejoice.

05-17-2005, 11:31 PM	#38
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Okay so my friend lent it to me in exchange for Devil May Cry 3. I decided Hell I beat the others why not this one? I'll say its different. Still too many movies for my taste but it's better then long drawn out radio convos which there arent many so it's good. Snake is really cool in this game. I like the who style of it and all so once I beat it Ill post more of my opinions. THese graphics, though impressive, still have rough edges and things still look kinda blocky which doesnt matter but I dont see how it's the best looking PS2 game. Graphics dont mean anything to me but yeah....WOW Revolver looks uhhh really gay o_O He looks like a girl or an asain o_O Either way I find it funny how in the first game he doesnt know who Snake is or remembers Snake fromt his one! Plotholessss Edit: Wow haha I shot Revolver in the head after Knocking him out and they yelled at me and told me I cant do that or it will create a Time Paradox. Cleaver __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/ Last edited by Spitfire; 05-17-2005 at 11:39 PM.