New Ep Discussion: 4-14: Ancient One - Page 2

*XERO* · 12-10-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Katie

There are things I definitely could do without in my past.....but I am one of those people who (eventually) come back to the conclusion that everything has a reason for happening.

I cannot think of one experience in my life that i cannot look logically at and say "yes, that really was for the best" Now, as we see with Leo this eason, that does take a goodly amount of time....but all the life experiences we have are what make up the fabric of who we are....you could no sooner cut out a chunk of a sweater and still call it useful.

Yeah.

Sometimes, the reasoning has no reason, so we try to make it reasonable. And like Leo, we fail. But, unlike Leo up to this point, we choose to move on.

Leo tried so hard to make a reason to the obvious. He failed, but he still tried to make a reason why he failed.

The reason was you failed because you failed. As long as you did your best, that's all that matters.

As for the 'sweater' quote, I believe that anything can be useful to any creature, big or small. Even the chunk you cut off will be the savior of a clan cold insects seeking warmth.

BTW, if any of this stuff doesn't all make sense... I did my best to explain.

*Katie* · 12-10-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IceFlash78

Question... from you guys, it seems like Leo's finally staring to heal...so is he staying in Japan for a few more episodes, or is he coming back to NY?

And who was the master? I mean... I'm assuming he had to be nonhuman cuz Splinter knew him and I'm assuming Leo could walk around without disguise with him and all...

Well....we don't know if he's staying for awhile or not...but guessing from the ending, he might.

Actually, the old fat farting guy was teh master....specifically, Yoshi's master....which would make the old fat farting guy like the TMNT's Great Grandfather???????

*Katie* · 12-10-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto

As for the 'sweater' quote, I believe that anything can be useful to any creature, big or small. Even the chunk you cut off will be the savior of a clan cold insects seeking warmth.

BTW, if any of this stuff doesn't all make sense... I did my best to explain.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh.....very wise Benvenuto-san.....very wise indeed

Turtle Dove · 12-10-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Katie

Well....we don't know if he's staying for awhile or not...but guessing from the ending, he might.

Actually, the old fat farting guy was teh master....specifically, Yoshi's master....which would make the old fat farting guy like the TMNT's Great Grandfather???????

Leo might stay for like 2 or 3 episodes maybe. Well if that was the granddad that'sa nasty looking granddad. The scene that made be scream was wen Leo and him were climbing up the rock and you could see him.

I'm blind!! I can take looking up Leo but the farting fat dude? No way!

*XERO* · 12-10-2005, 10:08 AM

Thanks, Katie.

*psst* Watch for double-posting.

I would love to have a episode where we finally get to veiw Master Yoshi entirely. How he talked, how he interacted. That sort of thing. The flashbacks don't really do you justice after a while.

Give that man an episode to really shine.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 12-10-2005, 10:08 AM

I got really excited when the ancient one said he had a story about master Yoshi at the very end. Then I looked my clock and realized the episode was over. dissapointed

...
I think it would almost make sense to have an episode about what is going on back in New york. Just the trip alone on a boat...think how much times has passed.
All the flash backs during the rock guy/Leo fight from being on the space ship were pretty sad, no wonder Leo is so messed up if that is how he remembers everything.
I was truly shocked when he even disarmed Splinter two times, but then cut him?! I was also surprised Master Splinter didn't knock him on his butt or that Raph didn't at least. I expected a bigger reaction. Very reminiscent of the meet Casy Jones Epi when Raph almost clobber Mikey with that pipe.
When Raph called Leo a hot head...haha I though I would never see the day.

*Katie* · 12-10-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto

*psst* Watch for double-posting.

Yeah...I messed up when i was trying to fix my post....

sorry!

*XERO* · 12-10-2005, 10:14 AM

It's okay.

Shell happens.

Turtle Dove · 12-10-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

I was truly shocked when he even disarmed Splinter two times, but then cut him?! I was also surprised Master Splinter didn't knock him on his butt or that Raph didn't at least. I expected a bigger reaction. Very reminiscent of the meet Casy Jones Epi when Raph almost clobber Mikey with that pipe.
When Raph called Leo a hot head...haha I though I would never see the day.

Didn't Leo deserve a slap in the face? Raph callin him a hothead was funny.Don & Mikey where shocked to hear him.

[QUOTE=Tinuvielsdreams]All the flash backs during the rock guy/Leo fight from being on the space ship were pretty sad, no wonder Leo is so messed up if that is how he remembers everything [/QOUTE]

Poor Leo- he must of thought because he was the leader-that everyone was counting on him no matter what.That's too much pressure for anyone. At least Leo finally put it behind him and can move foward.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 12-10-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Turtle Dove

Didn't Leo deserve a slap in the face? Raph callin him a hothead was funny.Don & Mikey where shocked to hear him.

You would think but I guess Splinter figures never strike a student on the verge of nervous collaspe.
There doesn't seem to be any trouble wacking Mikey though

poor guy...
Don and Mikey facially were like, Raph says what?

*tOkKa* · 12-10-2005, 10:32 AM

-->> ..ok here is my note to Playmates Toys i am passing around.. ::

Dear Playmates Toys ..
I don't live in hong Kong.. please make an Ancient One action Figure that you squeeze and it farts and teaches Leonardo Lessons cuz he is my favourite. Amen..

..ok..so whatcha think ?! ..it's only air..

..please sign my petition ..

Rikirk · 12-10-2005, 10:50 AM

Anyone else think that Leo's Bounty Hunter outfit was damn cool...

Could have done with a feww less break wind jokes...but .. I digress.

Great Eppisode...

Oh..The fight with the Rock...

Reminds me of Skywalkers fight with the Vader apparition in the Dagobah cave.

LUCKFF · 12-10-2005, 11:08 AM

Top Notch Episode. One Of The Best Of This Season. Very Hilarious And Very Fun To Watch.

Leo's Match With Splinter Was Very Intense And I Couldn't Help Wonder Why Leo Was So Mad At His Master. This Is The 1st Time This Leo Scared Me. There Was No Reason For Him To Talk To Splinter Like That. Guess This Was His Boiling Point. And It Needed To Be Reached For His Journey To Begin.

It Was Cool To See The Yeti's. They Taught A Valuable Lesson. All The Martial Arts And Years Of Training Will Do Leo No Good If He Is Not Composed. They Defeated Leo With Simple Calculated Moves. These Yeti's Were Certainly Not As Skilled As Leo.

I Don't Think The Farting Was Over Done. I Got The Idea From The Beginning That This Is Something He Does All Day. It Was Obvious That This Fart Master Was The Ancient One. I Don't Think It Was Meant To Be A Secret To The Viewers.

The Symbolism Was Nifty In This One. The Demons Obviously Represented Leo's Own Demons. The Fact That The Only Way To Defeat The Demons Was To Fail. And Failing Is One Of The Demons Leo's Has Been Battling. I Think Leo Learned A Very Valuable Lesson Right There. Leo Himself Describes The Symbolism With The Rock Monster: "i Hardened My Heart Like A Rock, Wrapped Up Inside My Own Shell."-leo. This Is Why Leo Was Inside Of The Rock Monster. I Love Stuff Like That.

I Was Hoping On Learning More About Yoshi. But It Was Interesting To Meet The Great Grand Master Of The Turtles.

14 Straight New Episodes Is Not Bad. Better Then Some Other Toons That Repeat After Just 5. 8 More Till 100, Wonder If It Will Be Special.

LUCKFF · 12-10-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikirk

Anyone else think that Leo's Bounty Hunter outfit was damn cool...

I THOUGHT IT WAS COOL. IT REMINED ME OF RAPHS COAT IN THE 1ST MOVIE.

stege-chan · 12-10-2005, 11:09 AM

A nice episode. The beginning seriously freaked me out. I about had that horrified expression Donnie did when he first saw Leo really going at it with Splinter. And MAN, when Leo actually hurt him! MAN. @_@ Oopsie. I'm being repetitive.

That Indiana Jones outfit made Leo look really slim, hardly like he even had a shell! XD And the hat was awesome, but then, hats are. Ooh! And those too snow demons, er, oni, er Ronsos? >.> Yeah, they deffinately reminded me of Yenke and Biran, the Ronsos that made fun of Khimari in the same way in Final Fantasy X. Maybe even the same voices?

I wasn't surprised that Leo's a health food nut, but maybe he hoards chocolate somewhere his brothers won't find it. A funny thought at least.

I especially loved Leo's fight with 'himself' at the end. That was great. Especially the clips with the other guys being 'omgz, help' I loved that. But I'm a total nut for full out angst. XD The Ancient One was great too, he reminded me of Rafiki from Lion King.

Anyone else think so? Especially when he bopped Leo over the head.

I for one hope Leo's back in New York by the next episode though. It's no fun to split up the main characters so there's less interaction. It's happened in a few series I like, so I'm not looking forward to something like that happening. *crosses fingers* So yeah, maybe a month or so will pass, and by the next new eppy Leo will be back home. *nods*

TerranigmaFreak · 12-10-2005, 11:11 AM

This episode is a total *fart* gas!!! Still, one minor detail *farrrrrt* bothers me. I mean, why is Luke using a pair of katanas? I thought *FFfaaarrTTTtttt* that was weird. What happened to the part where he's suppose to get the X-wing out of the swamp? I didn't know Japanese people lived on planet Dagobah, either. Why isn't Yoda green? And why is Yoda wearing a diaper!?!? Am I *faaaaaaaaaarrrrt* the only guy here more annoyed with the whole Empire Strikes Back rip-off than the fart jokes?

*Masked Ninja* · 12-10-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikirk

Reminds me of Skywalkers fight with the Vader apparition in the Dagobah cave.

Very true. Heck, did anyone think the Ancient One was acting just like Yoda? Rummaging through Leo's stuff, looking like a crazy old guy... and then you realize (or Leo does) at the end that he's the sensei he was seeking.

And actually... I was impressed that they only made direct reference to the farting two or three times. Sure, it was always there and that was annoying... but they didn't feel the need to make 2837463874 verbal jokes about it.

I really liked seeing how Leo interpreted the events from "Exodus." It helps everyone understand why he went so psycho. Gosh, I love this show.

EDIT:TerranigmaFreak beat me to it. And no, I wasn't bothered... I just enjoyed the homage.

Lioness-Goddess · 12-10-2005, 11:28 AM

I started laughing when those two big blue dudes called Leo poopy-face. Immature? A little. Funny? Hell ya!

Anyway, nice to have Leo at least sort of back to normal. *huggles Leo* No more being more uptight than usual? Good.

Yes...Leonardo's fight with the rock guy was very Star Wars-esque. I'm beginning to think the script writers are Star Wars fans!

How come we're getting reruns next week? The season isn't over already, is it?

TerranigmaFreak · 12-10-2005, 11:29 AM

But it made things way too predictable. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed this episode, but it just bothers me how close it follows Empire. And am I the only disappointed that the Ancient One didn't fly to the top of the mountain being propelled by his farts?

LUCKFF · 12-10-2005, 11:57 AM

"Ancient One Heh? I Know The Way To That Old Wind Bag." - The Ancient One

Its Funny That He Refers To Himself As A "Wind Bag" And Leo Didn't Even Catch On. Even After Constant Passing Of Wind By This Old Fat Guy.

"Thats Just Air!" - Ancient One

Lol

"Um...ah....the Path Continues In This Direction" (unsure Tone) - Leo

"I Said Some Roads Are Shorter Then Others, That Means A Short Cut Stupid!. Kapeesh?!" - Ancient One

He Played Leo. Thats Mad Funny.

12-10-2005, 10:08 AM	#25
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,179	Thanks, Katie. psst Watch for double-posting. I would love to have a episode where we finally get to veiw Master Yoshi entirely. How he talked, how he interacted. That sort of thing. The flashbacks don't really do you justice after a while. Give that man an episode to really shine. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

12-10-2005, 10:14 AM	#28
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,179	It's okay. Shell happens. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

12-10-2005, 10:32 AM	#31
tOkKa tOkKie-Pokie,puddin'n PIE Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pajamas out of the water on the elephant was sweating a lemon. Posts: 1,729	..!! -->> ..ok here is my note to Playmates Toys i am passing around.. :: Dear Playmates Toys .. I don't live in hong Kong.. please make an Ancient One action Figure that you squeeze and it farts and teaches Leonardo Lessons cuz he is my favourite. Amen.. ..ok..so whatcha think ?! ..it's only air.. ..please sign my petition .. __________________ 666 !!terrible2z /GGM!!/T.G.R.I./ ..モンスターのカメを解読しなさい。

12-10-2005, 10:50 AM	#32
Rikirk Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 208	Anyone else think that Leo's Bounty Hunter outfit was damn cool... Could have done with a feww less break wind jokes...but .. I digress. Great Eppisode... Oh..The fight with the Rock... Reminds me of Skywalkers fight with the Vader apparition in the Dagobah cave. __________________ "Did you say mattress?...I did ask you not to, now I have to get into the fish tank and sing. "Yes, yes I admit I tuned you out but in my defense its because I already figured out that youre stupid.'---Dr Rodney McKay - Stargate: Atlantis

12-10-2005, 11:08 AM	#33
LUCKFF Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NEW YORK CITY Posts: 429	Top Notch Episode. One Of The Best Of This Season. Very Hilarious And Very Fun To Watch. Leo's Match With Splinter Was Very Intense And I Couldn't Help Wonder Why Leo Was So Mad At His Master. This Is The 1st Time This Leo Scared Me. There Was No Reason For Him To Talk To Splinter Like That. Guess This Was His Boiling Point. And It Needed To Be Reached For His Journey To Begin. It Was Cool To See The Yeti's. They Taught A Valuable Lesson. All The Martial Arts And Years Of Training Will Do Leo No Good If He Is Not Composed. They Defeated Leo With Simple Calculated Moves. These Yeti's Were Certainly Not As Skilled As Leo. I Don't Think The Farting Was Over Done. I Got The Idea From The Beginning That This Is Something He Does All Day. It Was Obvious That This Fart Master Was The Ancient One. I Don't Think It Was Meant To Be A Secret To The Viewers. The Symbolism Was Nifty In This One. The Demons Obviously Represented Leo's Own Demons. The Fact That The Only Way To Defeat The Demons Was To Fail. And Failing Is One Of The Demons Leo's Has Been Battling. I Think Leo Learned A Very Valuable Lesson Right There. Leo Himself Describes The Symbolism With The Rock Monster: "i Hardened My Heart Like A Rock, Wrapped Up Inside My Own Shell."-leo. This Is Why Leo Was Inside Of The Rock Monster. I Love Stuff Like That. I Was Hoping On Learning More About Yoshi. But It Was Interesting To Meet The Great Grand Master Of The Turtles. 14 Straight New Episodes Is Not Bad. Better Then Some Other Toons That Repeat After Just 5. 8 More Till 100, Wonder If It Will Be Special. __________________

12-10-2005, 10:08 AM	#26
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	I got really excited when the ancient one said he had a story about master Yoshi at the very end. Then I looked my clock and realized the episode was over. dissapointed ... I think it would almost make sense to have an episode about what is going on back in New york. Just the trip alone on a boat...think how much times has passed. All the flash backs during the rock guy/Leo fight from being on the space ship were pretty sad, no wonder Leo is so messed up if that is how he remembers everything. I was truly shocked when he even disarmed Splinter two times, but then cut him?! I was also surprised Master Splinter didn't knock him on his butt or that Raph didn't at least. I expected a bigger reaction. Very reminiscent of the meet Casy Jones Epi when Raph almost clobber Mikey with that pipe. When Raph called Leo a hot head...haha I though I would never see the day.

12-10-2005, 11:09 AM	#35
stege-chan Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cincinnateh, Ohio... WHO-DEY! Posts: 113	A nice episode. The beginning seriously freaked me out. I about had that horrified expression Donnie did when he first saw Leo really going at it with Splinter. And MAN, when Leo actually hurt him! MAN. @_@ Oopsie. I'm being repetitive. That Indiana Jones outfit made Leo look really slim, hardly like he even had a shell! XD And the hat was awesome, but then, hats are. Ooh! And those too snow demons, er, oni, er Ronsos? >.> Yeah, they deffinately reminded me of Yenke and Biran, the Ronsos that made fun of Khimari in the same way in Final Fantasy X. Maybe even the same voices? I wasn't surprised that Leo's a health food nut, but maybe he hoards chocolate somewhere his brothers won't find it. A funny thought at least. I especially loved Leo's fight with 'himself' at the end. That was great. Especially the clips with the other guys being 'omgz, help' I loved that. But I'm a total nut for full out angst. XD The Ancient One was great too, he reminded me of Rafiki from Lion King. Anyone else think so? Especially when he bopped Leo over the head. I for one hope Leo's back in New York by the next episode though. It's no fun to split up the main characters so there's less interaction. It's happened in a few series I like, so I'm not looking forward to something like that happening. crosses fingers So yeah, maybe a month or so will pass, and by the next new eppy Leo will be back home. nods __________________ "Wash the windows! Scrub the floors! Save the world! My entire life is work, work, work!"

12-10-2005, 11:11 AM	#36
TerranigmaFreak Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 715	This episode is a total fart gas!!! Still, one minor detail farrrrrt bothers me. I mean, why is Luke using a pair of katanas? I thought FFfaaarrTTTtttt that was weird. What happened to the part where he's suppose to get the X-wing out of the swamp? I didn't know Japanese people lived on planet Dagobah, either. Why isn't Yoda green? And why is Yoda wearing a diaper!?!? Am I faaaaaaaaaarrrrt the only guy here more annoyed with the whole Empire Strikes Back rip-off than the fart jokes? __________________ First footage of the new R rated TMNT movie.

12-10-2005, 11:28 AM	#38
Lioness-Goddess Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York, New York Posts: 408	I started laughing when those two big blue dudes called Leo poopy-face. Immature? A little. Funny? Hell ya! Anyway, nice to have Leo at least sort of back to normal. huggles Leo No more being more uptight than usual? Good. Yes...Leonardo's fight with the rock guy was very Star Wars-esque. I'm beginning to think the script writers are Star Wars fans! How come we're getting reruns next week? The season isn't over already, is it? __________________ There are only two things that are infinite; the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not so sure about the universe.

12-10-2005, 11:29 AM	#39
TerranigmaFreak Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 715	But it made things way too predictable. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed this episode, but it just bothers me how close it follows Empire. And am I the only disappointed that the Ancient One didn't fly to the top of the mountain being propelled by his farts? __________________ First footage of the new R rated TMNT movie.

12-10-2005, 11:57 AM	#40
LUCKFF Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NEW YORK CITY Posts: 429	"Ancient One Heh? I Know The Way To That Old Wind Bag." - The Ancient One Its Funny That He Refers To Himself As A "Wind Bag" And Leo Didn't Even Catch On. Even After Constant Passing Of Wind By This Old Fat Guy. "Thats Just Air!" - Ancient One Lol "Um...ah....the Path Continues In This Direction" (unsure Tone) - Leo "I Said Some Roads Are Shorter Then Others, That Means A Short Cut Stupid!. Kapeesh?!" - Ancient One He Played Leo. Thats Mad Funny. __________________ Last edited by LUCKFF; 12-10-2005 at 04:13 PM.