Why are other cartoons set in the future better than FF? - Page 2

The Master Meglomaniac · 03-25-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

A futuristic earth in which Spider-man has a futuristic outfit with cloaking devices on it and other stuff. The fact that it was on another Earth made it even lamer. It jumped on trend just like all those other shows.

No I never saw Phantom 2040, I glanced over it at work. Being int he anime section I dismissed it instantly. Also images of the terrible live action Phantom movie I saw when I was a kid stuck in my head.

I was joking around, but from a technical stand point, Spider-man unlimited was not set in the future, but it was a Batman Beyond ripoff and it did suck.

It is too bad you missed Phantom 2040, it was a good show. Anyway the point is that there have good shows set in the future, it is a shame FF couldn't measure up.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-25-2007, 04:49 PM

Batman Beyond owes a lot to Spider-Man 2099 actually.

Spawn Guy · 03-25-2007, 04:56 PM

Wasn't Spider-Man Unlimited going to be Spider-Man 2099 until Columbia got the movie rights?

*ZariusTwo* · 03-25-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

Wasn't Spider-Man Unlimited going to be Spider-Man 2099 until Columbia got the movie rights?

Yeah. 2099 did'nt depend too much on the older mythology though

Time Mistress · 03-25-2007, 06:05 PM

Batman Beyond owes a lot to Phantom 2040 as well I think. Never got to see much Spidey Unlimited, but I love Beyond and 2040.

The great things about Phantom 2040:

Judith and Garfield Reeve-Stevens as the main writing staff. As Star Trek novelists they knew how to set up a cool future world, not to mention some great in-jokes. Dixon Hill and Bruce Wayne are mentioned in Kit's Fictional Detectives of the 20th Century college class.

The show was one of the first American cartoons that dared to have ongoing story arcs. It promoted environmental messages, and could be very philosophical at times. It took the aproach of a hardcore sci-fi show that just happened to be told in animation rather than what was expected from a cartoon of the time.

I can't comment on 2040's second season since it aired in syndication and got dropped from my local channel. But season one is great stuff. Not to mention, 2040 was my first big exposure to the Phantom who is a really awesome superhero period. I really wish 2040 would come out on DVD.
(There is a "movie" version of the first four eps available, but it's chopped up some.)

"There's an old jungle saying - The bigger they are..."
"That is not an old jungle saying."
"This isn't the old jungle, Guran, and I'm not the old Phantom."

Spawn Guy · 03-25-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Time Mistress

Batman Beyond owes a lot to Phantom 2040 as well I think. Never got to see much Spidey Unlimited, but I love Beyond and 2040.

Apart from some better animaated acrobatics, web effects and the best voice acting for the title character, you didn't miss much.

Although I will admit that while the Unlimited suit looked stupid and was just lame overall, it made sense as an anti symbiote weapon. It just wasn't a spidey costume.

The Master Meglomaniac · 03-25-2007, 09:00 PM

I think the future in "Same As It Never Was" was a million times more interesting than anything in FF.

kerfootw · 03-25-2007, 09:08 PM

Indeed. But I just found a problem in SAINW: What about Bishop and the rest of Area 51?

The Master Meglomaniac · 03-25-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kerfootw

Indeed. But I just found a problem in SAINW: What about Bishop and the rest of Area 51?

They were likely defeated and killed by Shredder's forces, that is not unbelievable.

Jamboree · 03-25-2007, 09:28 PM

I hope this hasn't been answered in another topic, but is FF canon?
and to stay on topic, I think whomever said it's alittle out of the turtles element is right on. It's not as stealthy and ninjaesque, but more adventurous and experimental.

kerfootw · 03-25-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master Meglomaniac

They were likely defeated and killed by Shredder's forces, that is not unbelievable.

Boooorrrring!

*VaughnMichael* · 03-26-2007, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinning Cutter

I hope this hasn't been answered in another topic, but is FF canon?
and to stay on topic, I think whomever said it's alittle out of the turtles element is right on. It's not as stealthy and ninjaesque, but more adventurous and experimental.

well it was suposed to be but I think it's pretty much gone off track.

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Time Mistress Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennshellvania, or the 79th level of Null-Time Posts: 710	Batman Beyond owes a lot to Phantom 2040 as well I think. Never got to see much Spidey Unlimited, but I love Beyond and 2040. The great things about Phantom 2040: Judith and Garfield Reeve-Stevens as the main writing staff. As Star Trek novelists they knew how to set up a cool future world, not to mention some great in-jokes. Dixon Hill and Bruce Wayne are mentioned in Kit's Fictional Detectives of the 20th Century college class. The show was one of the first American cartoons that dared to have ongoing story arcs. It promoted environmental messages, and could be very philosophical at times. It took the aproach of a hardcore sci-fi show that just happened to be told in animation rather than what was expected from a cartoon of the time. I can't comment on 2040's second season since it aired in syndication and got dropped from my local channel. But season one is great stuff. Not to mention, 2040 was my first big exposure to the Phantom who is a really awesome superhero period. I really wish 2040 would come out on DVD. (There is a "movie" version of the first four eps available, but it's chopped up some.) "There's an old jungle saying - The bigger they are..." "That is not an old jungle saying." "This isn't the old jungle, Guran, and I'm not the old Phantom." __________________ AKA the Edwardian Adventuress and Fairlady_Z "You just made your last mistake, Bugeyes -- 'cuz nobody beats up my best buddy and gets away with it -- Nobody! Got that?!" Raphael about Michaelangelo, TMNT Volume 1

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The Master Meglomaniac Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 131	I think the future in "Same As It Never Was" was a million times more interesting than anything in FF.

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kerfootw Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 405	Indeed. But I just found a problem in SAINW: What about Bishop and the rest of Area 51?

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Jamboree Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Orange, N.J. Posts: 28	I hope this hasn't been answered in another topic, but is FF canon? and to stay on topic, I think whomever said it's alittle out of the turtles element is right on. It's not as stealthy and ninjaesque, but more adventurous and experimental.