Watching through the 2k3 series for the fist time - Page 2

*Spitfire* · 12-01-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineapplehead

Just personal preference, but I kind of preferred Fast Forward over the 2k3. I don't see why everyone hates it so much when I compare it to the 2k3.

The FF hate comes from a rejection of change. The same crap happened when 2K3 first aired. OT fans whined and most comic fans cheered. FF was the end of the Mirage era of 2K3 turtles and it ticked off fans of the series. They wanted the "dark" turtles of season 4 back but that was far gone.

I personally enjoyed FF. It had many interesting new villains and while the story wasn't as interconnected as 2K3 it was still good. Sure they toned it down a bit but anyone who can handle watching the OT can handle most of FF. I don't see why more people just can't accept both.

Fugitoid Jones · 12-01-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

The FF hate comes from a rejection of change. The same crap happened when 2K3 first aired. OT fans whined and most comic fans cheered. FF was the end of the Mirage era of 2K3 turtles and it ticked off fans of the series. They wanted the "dark" turtles of season 4 back but that was far gone.

I personally enjoyed FF. It had many interesting new villains and while the story wasn't as interconnected as 2K3 it was still good. Sure they toned it down a bit but anyone who can handle watching the OT can handle most of FF. I don't see why more people just can't accept both.

This is probably very true for many people, but for me it was never about change or the lighthearted tone. I just didn't like the idea of the Turtles in the future being surrounded by aliens for an entire season. I always felt that surrounding the Turtles with aliens makes them less special, harder to stand out. It's like if the X-Men were in a world that was 80% mutants. Plus the decline of the animation in FF bothered me.
(sorry to feed into the 'FF VS 2K3' ongoing debate, I know it's been done to death here)

*VaughnMichael* · 12-01-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineapplehead

Just personal preference, but I kind of preferred Fast Forward over the 2k3. I don't see why everyone hates it so much when I compare it to the 2k3.

Not everyone hates it, it's my favorite TMNT of this period in time.

technicalfoul · 12-01-2010, 07:37 AM

I've seen the first 2 seasons of the 2003 series and it's great, I even prefer it over the original cartoon. I intend to watch the rest of it!

*Turo602* · 12-02-2010, 10:35 AM

Lucky you, I need to rewatch the entire series again too. I'm starting to miss it. The whole series is enjoyable as a whole. Fast Forward offers something new,a little awkward at first but then you get used to it. And from there on it gets a little better but not as good as the first five really well done seasons. I also really like all the Shredder battles. They're so epic!

*CyberCubed* · 12-02-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

This is probably very true for many people, but for me it was never about change or the lighthearted tone. I just didn't like the idea of the Turtles in the future being surrounded by aliens for an entire season. I always felt that surrounding the Turtles with aliens makes them less special, harder to stand out. It's like if the X-Men were in a world that was 80% mutants. Plus the decline of the animation in FF bothered me.

Volume 4 did the same thing, and that was present day. At least in FF, you knew they could only walk among aliens in the future.

I also remember some people saying some really stupid things when FF first started, like, "Why didn't the Turtles visit April and Casey's graves?"

WTF?

Seriously, the stuff people were spouting was so stupid.

*Sage Ninja* · 12-02-2010, 11:37 PM

people give it a f*cking rest!

*Powder* · 12-03-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

people give it a f*cking rest!

Give what a rest, exactly? Everyone in here has been civil.

*gobo* · 12-03-2010, 01:54 AM

I am also confused.

k_lala · 12-03-2010, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

The FF hate comes from a rejection of change. The same crap happened when 2K3 first aired. OT fans whined and most comic fans cheered. FF was the end of the Mirage era of 2K3 turtles and it ticked off fans of the series. They wanted the "dark" turtles of season 4 back but that was far gone.

I personally enjoyed FF. It had many interesting new villains and while the story wasn't as interconnected as 2K3 it was still good. Sure they toned it down a bit but anyone who can handle watching the OT can handle most of FF. I don't see why more people just can't accept both.

Yup not only that, but the action was different. Original 2K3 series had an amazing action choregraphy fight scenes. 2K3 wasn't as bad, but it wasn't anything close to what the original series was. And then when BTTS came I don't know what happen with that, it dropped even worse!

I have a hard time believing it was the same creative team working on all three shows. I just refuse to believe it.

Also the storylines were OK with FF, but they didn't have connecting story arcs just mainly one off shows.

*CyberCubed* · 12-03-2010, 08:12 PM

Fast Forward had a LOT of continuing story arcs.

The only stand-alone eps I can think of is all the Triple Threat eps, the Turtle Titan ep, and that ep with the collector at the end.

Fast Forward had:

- Darius Dun's story, intertwined with the Inuwashi Gunjins and Dark Turtles

- Sho'konobo and Virals story of taking over the planet

- Boss Zukko's story

- Jammerhead's sideplot

k_lala · 12-03-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Fast Forward had a LOT of continuing story arcs.

The only stand-alone eps I can think of is all the Triple Threat eps, the Turtle Titan ep, and that ep with the collector at the end.

Fast Forward had:

- Darius Dun's story, intertwined with the Inuwashi Gunjins and Dark Turtles

- Sho'konobo and Virals story of taking over the planet

- Boss Zukko's story

- Jammerhead's sideplot

To a degree yeah, but i was referring too how in the original series they had (Part 1 or Part 2, or even part 4) They did this a lot in the previous show, cliff hangers if you will. Justice League did this a lot too.

*Sage Ninja* · 12-03-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Volume 4 did the same thing, and that was present day. At least in FF, you knew they could only walk among aliens in the future.

I also remember some people saying some really stupid things when FF first started, like, "Why didn't the Turtles visit April and Casey's graves?"

WTF?

Seriously, the stuff people were spouting was so stupid.

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Originally Posted by Powder

Give what a rest, exactly? Everyone in here has been civil.

the whole FF vs. 2k3 thing. It's civil now but I've seen it too many times get obnoxious pretty quickly.

*Cure* · 12-03-2010, 10:02 PM

I dunno, yelling at everyone to give it a f*cking rest seems like the most obnoxious thing in this thread.

XxItachixX666 · 12-03-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

I dunno, yelling at everyone to give it a f*cking rest seems like the most obnoxious thing in this thread.

exactly..xp but yeah love the first 5 seasons..dislike the last 2...puipls look weird on them...and didnt like the changes on some of the characters...

*CyberCubed* · 12-04-2010, 10:31 PM

I wish Rat King got a second episode.

Seriously, to see a main TMNT villain like that just get 1 real episode was disappointing.

909 Turtle Fan · 12-04-2010, 11:27 PM

^^^ i agree. that could have been one of the best episodes, "Revenge of the Rat King".

Fugitoid Jones · 12-05-2010, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Volume 4 did the same thing, and that was present day. At least in FF, you knew they could only walk among aliens in the future.

Exactly, but please don't get me started on all the things I hate about Vol. 4.

Berserker · 12-05-2010, 03:25 PM

I also have been watching the 2k3 series for the first time over the past several months. It's taken a lot of money and effort to collect every episode, but so far it's been worth it.

So far, my favorite season is probably season 3, I consider that to be the series peak, since it wrapped up the Triceratons and Shredder nicely and has some of my favorite episodes, like Same As It Never Was.

Season 5 just made me want to play Mortal Kombat. The heavy handed Japanese stuff got old... fast. This is my least favorite season. I've watched 7 episodes of Fast Forward and it was jarring at first, but overall it's more enjoyable than season 5.

*Sage Ninja* · 12-05-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

I dunno, yelling at everyone to give it a f*cking rest seems like the most obnoxious thing in this thread.

If it's civil now than great but in the past it has gotten nasty before when old gripes get revisisted. But whatever it seems everything is alright for now so I'll just leave it at that then.

12-02-2010, 10:35 AM	#25
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	Lucky you, I need to rewatch the entire series again too. I'm starting to miss it. The whole series is enjoyable as a whole. Fast Forward offers something new,a little awkward at first but then you get used to it. And from there on it gets a little better but not as good as the first five really well done seasons. I also really like all the Shredder battles. They're so epic! __________________

12-02-2010, 11:37 PM	#27
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	people give it a f*cking rest! __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

12-03-2010, 01:54 AM	#29
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I am also confused. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-03-2010, 10:02 PM	#34
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I dunno, yelling at everyone to give it a f*cking rest seems like the most obnoxious thing in this thread. __________________

12-04-2010, 11:27 PM	#37
909 Turtle Fan Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2008 Location: Eastbound & Down Posts: 477	^^^ i agree. that could have been one of the best episodes, "Revenge of the Rat King". __________________ "Infinite possibilities have been opened to me thanks to this...Technodrome."-Ch'rell aka The Shredder, Turtles Forever "Breathe in the smoke, Oroku Saki, and meditate. Open your mind and all will become clear."-Kitsune, SHotFC #3

12-01-2010, 07:37 AM	#24
technicalfoul Random Punk Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada Posts: 49	I've seen the first 2 seasons of the 2003 series and it's great, I even prefer it over the original cartoon. I intend to watch the rest of it!

12-03-2010, 08:12 PM	#31
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,793	Fast Forward had a LOT of continuing story arcs. The only stand-alone eps I can think of is all the Triple Threat eps, the Turtle Titan ep, and that ep with the collector at the end. Fast Forward had: - Darius Dun's story, intertwined with the Inuwashi Gunjins and Dark Turtles - Sho'konobo and Virals story of taking over the planet - Boss Zukko's story - Jammerhead's sideplot

12-04-2010, 10:31 PM	#36
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,793	I wish Rat King got a second episode. Seriously, to see a main TMNT villain like that just get 1 real episode was disappointing.

12-05-2010, 03:25 PM	#39
Berserker Thug Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 92	I also have been watching the 2k3 series for the first time over the past several months. It's taken a lot of money and effort to collect every episode, but so far it's been worth it. So far, my favorite season is probably season 3, I consider that to be the series peak, since it wrapped up the Triceratons and Shredder nicely and has some of my favorite episodes, like Same As It Never Was. Season 5 just made me want to play Mortal Kombat. The heavy handed Japanese stuff got old... fast. This is my least favorite season. I've watched 7 episodes of Fast Forward and it was jarring at first, but overall it's more enjoyable than season 5.