How long do you think Shredder will last in IDW's continuity? - Page 2

Dirty Blond · 09-12-2012, 10:23 PM

Casey Jones' father will assume the mantle of the Shredder.

Matches Malone · 09-13-2012, 12:58 AM

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I dunno about Shredder, but I would like to see Krang get killed eventually. I think it'd be cool if Shredder was the one who did him in.

I'm down with this. Being rivals, I like the idea of one doing the other in. And Krang can't kill the Shredder cause he's already spoken for.

**Jester** · 09-13-2012, 01:00 AM

Cryomancer · 09-13-2012, 02:41 AM

Well if we're speculating...

TMNT defeat Shredder, leave him lying there. Then Karai comes out of a shadow and finishes him off and takes the armor.

Alternatively, Splinter kills him. Then the TMNT deal with the fallout of agreeing/not agreeing with him doing so.

Godzilla · 09-13-2012, 04:03 AM

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That's why in Mirage it didn't matter. Shredder was dead but his shadow cast on the rest of the series with Karai/The Foot being recurring characters.

Just look at City at War, Volume 2, Image and even Volume 4...the Turtles were never full free under Shredder's shadow.

Mirage killing off a character like Shredder, and keeping him dead was a very unique stance in the world of comicdom. Even with his legacy never fully going away, it was certainly contrary of what a reader has come to expect from long running titles.

Don't really see the IDW continuity retreading this concept, though if they did, it would be surprising.

funatic · 09-13-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone

I'm down with this. Being rivals, I like the idea of one doing the other in. And Krang can't kill the Shredder cause he's already spoken for.

I wonder if they'll form an alliance at some point to echo the OT, only to backstab one another in the future (something they toyed with in the OT, but never seriously). Not that I want this series to parallel the OT at all really...

A literal backstab (brainstab?) would be preferable, and suit the IDW tone.

*CyberCubed* · 09-13-2012, 03:57 PM

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I wonder if they'll form an alliance at some point to echo the OT, only to backstab one another in the future (something they toyed with in the OT, but never seriously). Not that I want this series to parallel the OT at all really...

A literal backstab (brainstab?) would be preferable, and suit the IDW tone.

Haha, I agree.

In the old show Shredder and Krang always talked about betraying or turning against each other, but it never actually happened. Probably because the writers treated them as an old married couple.

funatic · 09-13-2012, 10:52 PM

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Probably because the writers treated them as an old married couple.

My friends and I would always debate who would get to keep the kids (Bebop & Rocksteady) after the divorce...

n-zero · 09-14-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Probably because the writers treated them as an old married couple.

It's a classic sitcom formula:

Krang = Nagging wife
Shredder = Dumb husband
Bebop and Rocksteady = Idiot kids

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My friends and I would always debate who would get to keep the kids (Bebop & Rocksteady) after the divorce...

This was addressed in the Return of the Shredder episodes- Krang kept the kids and the house (Technodrome) in Dimension X and Shredder had to move into a rundown apartment and take on a roommate (Baxter)

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 · 09-14-2012, 09:58 AM

Shredder will not die until the last issue of the series. Only in Mirrage they killed him . In 1987 cartoon and Archie comics he didnt die and in the 4kids cartoon he died in TMNT Forever. Dont worry they will not kill him! No one wants him to die! The fans will be very angry if something like this happens.

thelouisguy · 09-14-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN 19

Dont worry they will not kill him! No one wants him to die! The fans will be very angry if something like this happens.

Not sure if "fans will be very angry" if he dies. Some fans would be, but not all.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 09-14-2012, 11:55 AM

I'm not worried about him being killed off. I think I'd actually prefer it. The legacy of the Shredder is more threatening then the actual man.

*Powder* · 09-14-2012, 07:55 PM

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Not sure if "fans will be very angry" if he dies. Some fans would be, but not all.

No, no, you're wrong. Baxter speaks for every fan when he posts.

*Redeemer* · 09-14-2012, 09:13 PM

Im with many other dromers on here and would like to see the Shredder as a "Mantle" I think that would be pretty interesting take on the foot

*Cowabunga Carl* · 09-14-2012, 09:47 PM

That is one thing that I loved about Mirage. They had the gumption to kill of Shredder and let the Foot be in the background always. It wasn't scheme after scheme failing. I don't want to see IDW Shredder fall into that stereotype either. I'd rather see him get killed off and then the Foot try to get revenge. Heck they could even try to resurrect him from time to time.

*Andrew NDB* · 09-14-2012, 10:03 PM

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I'm not worried about him being killed off. I think I'd actually prefer it. The legacy of the Shredder is more threatening then the actual man.

Agreed. And in my head I've not been convinced that Oroku Saki himself was ever the guy that actually "Created" the Shredder at all... but rather a mantle that even he himself accepted at some point.

I wish Mirage explored that a bit. A "Tales of the Shredder" exploring previous Shredders -- including Saki -- would have been awesome.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 09-14-2012, 10:35 PM

Sounds like another Andrew issue needs to be put into the works

I'd read the issue about the mantle of the Shredder.

**Jester** · 09-14-2012, 10:41 PM

Indeed, the legacy/mantle of the Shredder is far more important than just the man Oroku Saki.

And, yes, Andrew. if that was ever a thing, I'd love to read it...or even help with it.

*Powder* · 09-15-2012, 12:42 AM

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Sounds like another Andrew issue needs to be put into the works

I'd read the issue about the mantle of the Shredder.

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Indeed, the legacy/mantle of the Shredder is far more important than just the man Oroku Saki.

And, yes, Andrew. if that was ever a thing, I'd love to read it...or even help with it.

To the punch I've been beaten. This.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 09-15-2012, 12:49 AM

I'd even be willing to help in some way if he would have me. Heck if he doesn't do it maybe some of us others should. But Andrew's stuff is top notch and I think he would do an amazing issue.

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09-13-2012, 02:41 AM	#24
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Well if we're speculating... TMNT defeat Shredder, leave him lying there. Then Karai comes out of a shadow and finishes him off and takes the armor. Alternatively, Splinter kills him. Then the TMNT deal with the fallout of agreeing/not agreeing with him doing so. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

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Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Im with many other dromers on here and would like to see the Shredder as a "Mantle" I think that would be pretty interesting take on the foot __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

09-14-2012, 10:41 PM	#38
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,295	Indeed, the legacy/mantle of the Shredder is far more important than just the man Oroku Saki. And, yes, Andrew. if that was ever a thing, I'd love to read it...or even help with it. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

09-12-2012, 10:23 PM	#21
Dirty Blond Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 827	Casey Jones' father will assume the mantle of the Shredder.

09-14-2012, 09:58 AM	#30
BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 661	Shredder will not die until the last issue of the series. Only in Mirrage they killed him . In 1987 cartoon and Archie comics he didnt die and in the 4kids cartoon he died in TMNT Forever. Dont worry they will not kill him! No one wants him to die! The fans will be very angry if something like this happens.

09-14-2012, 11:55 AM	#32
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I'm not worried about him being killed off. I think I'd actually prefer it. The legacy of the Shredder is more threatening then the actual man.

09-14-2012, 09:47 PM	#35
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	That is one thing that I loved about Mirage. They had the gumption to kill of Shredder and let the Foot be in the background always. It wasn't scheme after scheme failing. I don't want to see IDW Shredder fall into that stereotype either. I'd rather see him get killed off and then the Foot try to get revenge. Heck they could even try to resurrect him from time to time.

09-14-2012, 10:35 PM	#37
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Sounds like another Andrew issue needs to be put into the works I'd read the issue about the mantle of the Shredder.

09-15-2012, 12:49 AM	#40
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I'd even be willing to help in some way if he would have me. Heck if he doesn't do it maybe some of us others should. But Andrew's stuff is top notch and I think he would do an amazing issue.