the ot tmnt on blu ray in europe - Page 2

*MrPliggins* · 10-22-2013, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendamu

That honestly depends on what sort of source is being used. If they just have some standard definition digital masters or tapes, then this would be an upscale at best. However, if the source footage they have is actual 16mm film (like FUNimation's masters of Dragon Ball Z), then it actually can be scanned in actual 1080p HD for a Blu-ray release.

Would it benefit from being in HD without some sort of remastering, though?

True, but judging from the DVD releases, the original films are either lost, inaccessible, or they didn't want to go through the trouble using them. I know a few episodes were merely VHS rips on the DVDs.

*DVD* · 10-22-2013, 09:35 AM

Time to do the math.
50 episodes ( rounding down for ease of numbers) on 50Gb equals 10 eps per 10 Gb.
8Gb of DVD has about 8 episodes on each disc.

Ergo both sets are using aprox 1Gb per episode.

I think this is the same SD set but carried over 4 discs instead of 20.

*Refractive Reflections* · 10-22-2013, 02:20 PM

I would buy it on Blu ray if it was released in the U.S. and if there truly was a visual improvement on the digital quality here.

...Yet even after all of that I probably won't, because I know they are going to slowly leak out extras (interviews, how to draw OT Turtles, maybe some copies of some unused scripts, or the vocals from the "Shredder In Love" unfinished episode, etc.) with each release. Pssh, I'll probably be waiting for another 2 years until I feel satisfied enough to buy anything.

Dawnatello Turtle Chick · 10-22-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JYX

Pssh, I'll probably be waiting for another 2 years until I feel satisfied enough to buy anything.

Or 10, lol. They like to drag their feet!

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 10-22-2013, 02:44 PM

Wow. If this is really a digital remaster that'd be awesome. Even better if it had 5.1 sound - a better chance of a fan-made soundtrack coming out.

But it's probably an SD upscale.

*Refractive Reflections* · 10-22-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawnatello Turtle Chick

Or 10, lol. They like to drag their feet!

It's smart from a business perspective to do that, but of course maddening for us fans. We keep buying the same previous 97% content for an additional bonus on each release.

~~ledahead~~ · 10-22-2013, 04:02 PM

I purchased all the seasons of the OT on DVD over the summer so it sucks to know that the OT will be coming out on blu-ray. Unless there is some sort of visual improvement I won't buy the OT on blu ray.

*Refractive Reflections* · 10-23-2013, 01:17 AM

Wait a second... I know this is off-tangent but on those Amazon website Blu-Ray cover pictures, is the green circle on the bottom left corner the German rating system?

I'm just surprised that they consider the OT episodes so "mature" (Freigegeben ab 12 Jahren (FSK 12): children 12 or older admitted, children between 6 and 11 only when accompanied by parent or a legal guardian (green sign)), that it has the SAME rating as Gravity (PG-13), 2 Guns (R), and Jurassic Park (PG-13).

...Say what?

You see American TMNT fans, the OT is still apparently considered "too violent" in parts of Europe! So don't criticize the show for being so "slapstick", it was forced to tone it down for international appeal.

*Zulithe* · 10-23-2013, 02:00 AM

itshappening.gif

I may have to get these!!

*Powder* · 10-23-2013, 02:08 AM

Maybe it's just a matter of politically correct sensitivity?

*Refractive Reflections* · 10-23-2013, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Maybe it's just a matter of politically correct sensitivity?

Could be...

**shrug**
I guess I find it hilarious that according to this German rating system, if I have a 7 or 8 year old child who watches the OT with me and doesn't find it disturbing, then theoretically, my 7 or 8 year old kid is "mature enough" to handle Jurassic Park, 2 Guns, Gravity, Hotel Rwanda (2004) (PG-13 rating in U.S.), Crash (2004) (R rating), and Argo (R rating) with me as well.

...They should lower it to FSK 6, but whatever.

*Shark_Blade* · 10-23-2013, 04:06 AM

Now if people say OT is too childish I'll just shove this "mature" rating down their throat.

mb1025 · 10-23-2013, 06:42 PM

I hope we get this in NA even if it isn't better quality. I had the first few seasons on DVD, but when the releases became to far apart I just lost track of getting them.

Here I can just put them in with the other blu rays I have.

AleXviD · 11-07-2013, 12:07 AM

Sorry for being the party pooper, guys, but do any of you know that KSM also released original He-Man and the MOTU on Blu-Ray? Are you aware that this releases is THE s***? No? Read here and here (use Google translate to have a basic idea of what is said in the product comments)!

And let's not forget that German versions of the OT was made from censored British version (no chucks or "ninja" words). KSM DVDs included both censored and uncensored versions, but I'm pretty sure that Blu-rays will get only those with German audio.

*Cipher* · 11-07-2013, 12:23 AM

One disc for 56 episodes? That can't be right. Or the quality must be at or sub-DVD level.

Also, re: the standard definition comment last page, the Fred Wolf cartoon used actual film. With access to masters in high-enough quality, a true high definition version that looks significantly better than its standard-definition counterpart could be produced. And, while not as noticeable as with live action due to a lower level of detail, high-definition film animation still does look noticeably better.

This, as opposed to say the 4Kids series or Turtles Forever, which, as far as I know, were filmed digitally in standard definition; they'll never be able to look better than the best standard-definition encode they could get.

Ryanator008 · 11-20-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DVD

Time to do the math.
50 episodes ( rounding down for ease of numbers) on 50Gb equals 10 eps per 10 Gb.
8Gb of DVD has about 8 episodes on each disc.

Ergo both sets are using aprox 1Gb per episode.

I think this is the same SD set but carried over 4 discs instead of 20.

...You must not know just how big a gigabyte is... To put it in perspective: One episode of Pokemon (an SD season made around the same time as the OT) that I copied to my computer is about 150 megabytes. There are about 1000 megabytes in a gigabyte. EDIT: That still doesn't mean that they used up all the space, or even dual-layer Blu-Rays.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 11-22-2013, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryanator008

...You must not know just how big a gigabyte is... To put it in perspective: One episode of Pokemon (an SD season made around the same time as the OT) that I copied to my computer is about 150 megabytes. There are about 1000 megabytes in a gigabyte. EDIT: That still doesn't mean that they used up all the space, or even dual-layer Blu-Rays.

That's your heavily compressed Pokemon episode on your computer. I'm sure the master copy of the episode is at least a gig.

rickwj324 · 11-22-2013, 09:53 AM

I'm pretty certain the company that does these (and other complete series like He-man) is quite notorious for horrible quality. These are definitely SD videos and if I'm not mistaken they are GERMAN ONLY AUDIO!! I know the other series they've done have been this way.
I'm not sure if they are region-locked, but whether they are or aren't I'm quite sure these are not worth buying.

Rick

Ryanator008 · 11-22-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

That's your heavily compressed Pokemon episode on your computer. I'm sure the master copy of the episode is at least a gig.

Well couldn't they heavily compress TMNT?

AleXviD · 11-22-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanator008

Well couldn't they heavily compress TMNT?

But why? OT looks like crap as it is, no need to compress it even harder.

10-22-2013, 02:20 PM	#23
Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	I would buy it on Blu ray if it was released in the U.S. and if there truly was a visual improvement on the digital quality here. ...Yet even after all of that I probably won't, because I know they are going to slowly leak out extras (interviews, how to draw OT Turtles, maybe some copies of some unused scripts, or the vocals from the "Shredder In Love" unfinished episode, etc.) with each release. Pssh, I'll probably be waiting for another 2 years until I feel satisfied enough to buy anything.
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10-23-2013, 01:17 AM	#28
Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	OT has the same German Motion Picture Rating as Gravity, 2 Guns, and Jurassic Park?!? Wait a second... I know this is off-tangent but on those Amazon website Blu-Ray cover pictures, is the green circle on the bottom left corner the German rating system? I'm just surprised that they consider the OT episodes so "mature" (Freigegeben ab 12 Jahren (FSK 12): children 12 or older admitted, children between 6 and 11 only when accompanied by parent or a legal guardian (green sign)), that it has the SAME rating as Gravity (PG-13), 2 Guns (R), and Jurassic Park (PG-13). ...Say what? You see American TMNT fans, the OT is still apparently considered "too violent" in parts of Europe! So don't criticize the show for being so "slapstick", it was forced to tone it down for international appeal. Last edited by Refractive Reflections; 10-23-2013 at 03:30 AM.
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10-22-2013, 09:35 AM	#22
DVD Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Shanghai Posts: 2,066	Time to do the math. 50 episodes ( rounding down for ease of numbers) on 50Gb equals 10 eps per 10 Gb. 8Gb of DVD has about 8 episodes on each disc. Ergo both sets are using aprox 1Gb per episode. I think this is the same SD set but carried over 4 discs instead of 20.

10-22-2013, 04:02 PM	#27
~~ledahead~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 64	I purchased all the seasons of the OT on DVD over the summer so it sucks to know that the OT will be coming out on blu-ray. Unless there is some sort of visual improvement I won't buy the OT on blu ray.

10-23-2013, 02:00 AM	#29
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	itshappening.gif I may have to get these!!

10-23-2013, 02:08 AM	#30
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Maybe it's just a matter of politically correct sensitivity?

10-23-2013, 04:06 AM	#32
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Now if people say OT is too childish I'll just shove this "mature" rating down their throat.

10-23-2013, 06:42 PM	#33
mb1025 Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 42	I hope we get this in NA even if it isn't better quality. I had the first few seasons on DVD, but when the releases became to far apart I just lost track of getting them. Here I can just put them in with the other blu rays I have.

11-07-2013, 12:07 AM	#34
AleXviD Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 187	Sorry for being the party pooper, guys, but do any of you know that KSM also released original He-Man and the MOTU on Blu-Ray? Are you aware that this releases is THE s***? No? Read here and here (use Google translate to have a basic idea of what is said in the product comments)! And let's not forget that German versions of the OT was made from censored British version (no chucks or "ninja" words). KSM DVDs included both censored and uncensored versions, but I'm pretty sure that Blu-rays will get only those with German audio.

11-07-2013, 12:23 AM	#35
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	One disc for 56 episodes? That can't be right. Or the quality must be at or sub-DVD level. Also, re: the standard definition comment last page, the Fred Wolf cartoon used actual film. With access to masters in high-enough quality, a true high definition version that looks significantly better than its standard-definition counterpart could be produced. And, while not as noticeable as with live action due to a lower level of detail, high-definition film animation still does look noticeably better. This, as opposed to say the 4Kids series or Turtles Forever, which, as far as I know, were filmed digitally in standard definition; they'll never be able to look better than the best standard-definition encode they could get.

11-22-2013, 09:53 AM	#38
rickwj324 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,019	I'm pretty certain the company that does these (and other complete series like He-man) is quite notorious for horrible quality. These are definitely SD videos and if I'm not mistaken they are GERMAN ONLY AUDIO!! I know the other series they've done have been this way. I'm not sure if they are region-locked, but whether they are or aren't I'm quite sure these are not worth buying. Rick