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Are you sure? Because in the central mediums/universes of film, TV, and comics...
Hamato Yoshi is Technically Not Splinter: 1. Mirage Comics 2. Movies 3. NT:TNM 4. 4Kids Show 5. IDW (he is still a normal rat, reincarnation of Hamato Yoshi or not) Hamato Yoshi is Technically Splinter: 1. Fred Wolf 2. Archie 3. Nickelodeon show Even if you were to grant the IDW example, it still seems you're wrong.
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It's not so much 'redundancy' as different iterations/universes influencing one another. I see no problem with it - you may argue it's lazy from a creative standpoint but I've liked the majority of all universe's characters - although I could be doing with less mutants in 2k12.
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Even if you put IDW Splinter in the WAS Hamato Yoshi column, it's still an even split....
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Further splitting (rat) hairs, doesn't Next Mutation technically take place within the movieverse?
Though I guess one could argue Archie and Fred Wolf are the same universe. |
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Like I said above, it's more a borrowing between different universes - whether that be of the same character or different but similar characters. |
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They're not really redundant... they're just the same kind of animal, but not the same kind of person and/or personality. It's just after a while... how many more animals are left that aren't already mutants, gods or aliens.
And you're insane if you're throwing in a 4-armed god to a mutant martial artist. By your weird logic, Rahzar is also Dreadmon. Jagwar is Tiger Claw. Scratch is Old Hob.
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He was an Akita, a Japanese breed.
To be fair though, dogs are basically domesticated wolves, so when Dogpound/Bradford got mutated again, the second mutation probably reverted the Akita portion back into it's old ancestor, the wolf. Quote:
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Exactly, cause they ARE separate characters.
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Characther redundancy is the simple act of recycling characters by just changing their name along with some minor design differences, such as the weapons used, body layout, and origin. They do make great crossover jokes though! You even see this in Power Rangers, Pro Wrestling (ever heard of the Seven Year Rule?)
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I think he ment "trash" as "sucks".
And he was a worm not a leech. |
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I have to disagree on some of those. Namely, Dogpound/Rahzar, Lotus/Karai, and CT/Scumbug. Obviously, there are some characters who would be redundant IF THEY WERE IN THE SAME CONTINUITY. But most of them aren't!
The only REALLY redundant characters I can think of are Slash and Tokka, who BOTH appeared in the OT. It never made much sense to me to have TWO "evil" turtles in the same universe. I liked the double mutation as a way to introduce Rahzar, but now that they've done that, who would be Tokka? Slash? Because now it would be redundant if they had both in Nick- and honestly, what's Rahzar without Tokka? Or are we going to double-mutate one of the TMNT a la Mirage/4Kids and turn him "evil" to just have Tokka running around? Either way would just be ridiculous. Granted, doing a "Gamora-Don(or Raph)" would be cool for an ep or two, or having one of the turtles turn evil (like IDW's Leo) but to double-dip mutant turtle characters just to have Tokka? That's stretching it.
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Slash is so huge in this version he's basically Tokka too. And I doubt Bradford needs him. This isn't like the movie where both animals were mutated at the same time like Bebop and Rocksteady. 'Rahzar' has been in the show since the 4th episode... so he doesn't now need a 'Tokka' all of a sudden, especially since he already has Xever.
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Yeah, but it goes back to fan expectations- if you have Rahzar, then by extension, you have to include Tokka, too- they are a duo just as R&B are. It's like splitting up Rocksteady and Bebop for no reason. Fans think of them as two halves of a whole, so why do it? Same thing with T&R. They go together, and always have.
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My only question is, if they do pair off Bradford and Slash (cause really, Slash already fills that role), where does that leave Xever?
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Uh.... Armaddon?(sp?) Seriously, though, those two don't really strike me as a true "pairing" of henchmen like the others. They don't seem to "fit" in the same way. It's kind of like taking Bing and Bob and replacing one of them with someone else. (For those who don't know whom I'm referring to- I'm a fan of the old Bing Crosby/Bob Hope "Road To" movies.) It's just not the same....
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