"Why my Turtlez has lips?" - An Explainer - Page 2

*chrisdude* · 01-22-2014, 06:23 PM

See how the opening of Mikey's mouth completely changes size while he talks, but he's not puckering? If this wasn't a cartoon, it would look ludicrous. Only an anus can pucker without lips.

TurtleMikey · 01-22-2014, 06:36 PM

Why is it that when people look at this mask, they see this:

Really....... the lips on this turtle are barely noticable.

Its only the strong curve on the underside of the bottom lip that make them visable at all.

The lips are so damn thin, that it really isn't visably different than the classic designs other than that it doesn't have a pronounced snout.

*The Stryker* · 01-22-2014, 06:38 PM

Yo. Seriously.

The lips are barely there.

*CyberCubed* · 01-22-2014, 06:39 PM

The horrible nostril and lips design was done for two reason:

1. They want the real-life actors faces to be recognizable on the TMNT. In fact they look human now with green skin instead of turtle faces.

2. Megan Fox is probably going to have a make out scene with one of the Turtles, judging by those set-pics its likely going to be Raphael. She needs something to kiss.

As for Cipher's other points they all feel very, "apologist" as in he's trying to make the best out of a bad situation. But this is just asinine, everything about this movie is asinine.

Between this and a white 60 year old crusty Eric Sachs Shredder...this movie is an abomination.

*Cipher* · 01-22-2014, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

As for Cipher's other points they all feel very, "apologist" as in he's trying to make the best out of a bad situation.

I will be here next week when you deliver a realistic design that could be animated to plausibly pronounce English words without involving some form of lips.

Guys, I don't even like this movie. I have said almost nothing to defend it before, except of the "Well, it might as well be what it is" variety. I just think the complaints surrounding the design, particularly this element of it, are the dumbest.

*CyberCubed* · 01-22-2014, 06:47 PM

We don't need realism. It never bothered me the way the turtles mouths moved in the live action movies, or the CG in the 4th movie, or the Nick show.

The Turtles don't even look like the turtle anymore. They literally look like humans with green skin and a shell on their back. Between their human faces and that clothing, you can tell what they were going for. It has nothing to do with how they would speak.

But then again we still have to deal with white man Shredder, so this all boils down to an epic disaster.

At this point I'd welcome Venus de Milo back into the fold, she certainly couldn't make this movie any worse. Perhaps Megan Fox will get mutated into her.

TurtleMikey · 01-22-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The horrible nostril and lips design was done for two reason:

1. They want the real-life actors faces to be recognizable on the TMNT. In fact they look human now with green skin instead of turtle faces.

2. Megan Fox is probably going to have a make out scene with one of the Turtles, judging by those set-pics its likely going to be Raphael. She needs something to kiss.

As for Cipher's other points they all feel very, "apologist" as in he's trying to make the best out of a bad situation. But this is just asinine, everything about this movie is asinine.

Between this and a white 60 year old crusty Eric Sachs Shredder...this movie is an abomination.

........ Yeah. You're clearly just someone clamoring for a reason, any reason (no matter how minute) to hate this film.

Probably because Bay's name is attach. Even if just as a Producer.

*Aelia* · 01-22-2014, 06:53 PM

Alright, but what shade of lipstick do you think would look good on him?

*CyberCubed* · 01-22-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleMikey

........ Yeah. You're clearly just someone clamoring for a reason, any reason (no matter how minute) to hate this film.

Are you being serious?

1. Humanoid turtles with ugly designs

2. White man Eric Sachs Shredder

3. Original script that was leaked was horrible

4. Turtles originally had alien origins (and maybe still do?)

5. Megan Fox was a bad choice for April

And this is just what we know so far, let alone how bad the script could be.

*Cipher* · 01-22-2014, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

The first movie turtles didn't have lips, they talked just fine and it looked awesome, cg cartoon turtles didn't have lips...

This is dumb and you should feel dumb for typing it.

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Originally Posted by Aelia

Alright, but what shade of lipstick do you think would look good on him?

Fuschia.

But I doubt the fandom is ready for Teenage Mutant Cross-Dressing Turtles and I don't want to poke that hornets' nest.

*The Stryker* · 01-22-2014, 06:57 PM

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

*turtlefanforever* · 01-22-2014, 06:58 PM

If u want green humans just say so. Their lips are very prominent. You'd think for 150 mil you'd get a better product considering the first movie was made with only thousands

*The Stryker* · 01-22-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

If u want green humans just say so. Their lips are very prominent. You'd think for 150 mil you'd get a better product considering the first movie was made with only thousands

Nobody has seen the movie yeeeeeettttt.......

TurtleMikey · 01-22-2014, 07:12 PM

1. Humanoid turtles with ugly designs

Matter of opinion. Objectively, and subjectively speaking, it isn't bad. It looks a Ninja Turtle, more than most other realistic designs do. So, why bitch?

2. White man Eric Sachs Shredder

Another matter of opinion/taste. Depending on the back story they give him, and the portrayal, it could be just as good as if it was a Japanese, or any Asian actor, portraying the character.

3. Original script that was leaked was horrible

The original script wasn't NEARLY as bad as people say it was. The worst part was the strange origin they gave everyone which, admittedly, absorbed the 3rd act.

However, the script has been radically changed, and is now heavily based on the Fred Wolf series (With the original origins restored). Though w/ some visual elements retained, and certain sequences retained.

4. Turtles originally had alien origins (and maybe still do?)

I stated it above, the Utrom/Kraang Ooze origin has been restored.

5. Megan Fox was a bad choice for April

Actually, she is a good fit. At least, if you consider that her April is being based on the Fred Wolf April O'Neil, who didn't have much character depth and was known primarily for her looks.

And as far for Fred Wolf April's character arc, as a reporter who is underestimated for being female and hot, that's perfect for Megan Fox because that's, more or less, her real life.

And one would be full of **** to say that it isn't.

*Aelia* · 01-22-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher

Fuschia.

But I doubt the fandom is ready for Teenage Mutant Cross-Dressing Turtles and I don't want to poke that hornets' nest.

The whole world isn't ready for the Teenage Mutant Cross Dressing lifestyle! And fuschia? With THAT orange? Puh-leeeeze.

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My mother is a saint and you just insulted someone's family over Turtle lips.

Turtle lips are serious business and should be handled seriously.

*Cipher* · 01-22-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aelia

The whole world isn't ready for the Teenage Mutant Cross Dressing lifestyle! And fuschia? With THAT orange? Puh-leeeeze.

You're right and I'm actually kind of embarrassed about that. Then again, Mike never was one for fashion.

Bob · 01-22-2014, 07:23 PM

Why hasn't this clown been banned yet? Honestly, he should have gone the way of the dodo a long time ago.

*Aelia* · 01-22-2014, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher

You're right and I'm actually kind of embarrassed about that. Then again, Mike never was one for fashion.

Still wouldn't stop him from trying to start a trend.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 01-22-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aelia

Still wouldn't stop him from trying to start a trend.

Personally, I think he'd go for a darker shade, probably more of a plum or a dark wine. Mikey's pretty savvy when it comes to what's cool and trendy, plus he would want a shade that brings out his eyes. Since we all know he's the "pretty one".....

hitmonkey · 01-22-2014, 08:56 PM

They're giant talking mutant turtles who know martial arts and fight a clan on ninja based out of Manhattan. Why does that concept need to take realism so far that we analyze the science of their ability to speak? The lips look dumb on a Ninja Turtle.

01-22-2014, 06:23 PM	#21
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	See how the opening of Mikey's mouth completely changes size while he talks, but he's not puckering? If this wasn't a cartoon, it would look ludicrous. Only an anus can pucker without lips. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

01-22-2014, 06:38 PM	#23
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Yo. Seriously. The lips are barely there. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

01-22-2014, 06:57 PM	#31
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... __________________ @~<3 Mom~@ Last edited by Venom; 01-22-2014 at 09:03 PM.

01-22-2014, 06:58 PM	#32
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	They should really just change the name of the film If u want green humans just say so. Their lips are very prominent. You'd think for 150 mil you'd get a better product considering the first movie was made with only thousands

01-22-2014, 07:12 PM	#34
TurtleMikey Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 347	1. Humanoid turtles with ugly designs Matter of opinion. Objectively, and subjectively speaking, it isn't bad. It looks a Ninja Turtle, more than most other realistic designs do. So, why bitch? 2. White man Eric Sachs Shredder Another matter of opinion/taste. Depending on the back story they give him, and the portrayal, it could be just as good as if it was a Japanese, or any Asian actor, portraying the character. 3. Original script that was leaked was horrible The original script wasn't NEARLY as bad as people say it was. The worst part was the strange origin they gave everyone which, admittedly, absorbed the 3rd act. However, the script has been radically changed, and is now heavily based on the Fred Wolf series (With the original origins restored). Though w/ some visual elements retained, and certain sequences retained. 4. Turtles originally had alien origins (and maybe still do?) I stated it above, the Utrom/Kraang Ooze origin has been restored. 5. Megan Fox was a bad choice for April Actually, she is a good fit. At least, if you consider that her April is being based on the Fred Wolf April O'Neil, who didn't have much character depth and was known primarily for her looks. And as far for Fred Wolf April's character arc, as a reporter who is underestimated for being female and hot, that's perfect for Megan Fox because that's, more or less, her real life. And one would be full of **** to say that it isn't. Last edited by TurtleMikey; 01-22-2014 at 07:30 PM.

01-22-2014, 06:36 PM	#22
TurtleMikey Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 347	Why is it that when people look at this mask, they see this: Really....... the lips on this turtle are barely noticable. Its only the strong curve on the underside of the bottom lip that make them visable at all. The lips are so damn thin, that it really isn't visably different than the classic designs other than that it doesn't have a pronounced snout.

01-22-2014, 06:39 PM	#24
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,814	The horrible nostril and lips design was done for two reason: 1. They want the real-life actors faces to be recognizable on the TMNT. In fact they look human now with green skin instead of turtle faces. 2. Megan Fox is probably going to have a make out scene with one of the Turtles, judging by those set-pics its likely going to be Raphael. She needs something to kiss. As for Cipher's other points they all feel very, "apologist" as in he's trying to make the best out of a bad situation. But this is just asinine, everything about this movie is asinine. Between this and a white 60 year old crusty Eric Sachs Shredder...this movie is an abomination.

01-22-2014, 06:47 PM	#26
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,814	We don't need realism. It never bothered me the way the turtles mouths moved in the live action movies, or the CG in the 4th movie, or the Nick show. The Turtles don't even look like the turtle anymore. They literally look like humans with green skin and a shell on their back. Between their human faces and that clothing, you can tell what they were going for. It has nothing to do with how they would speak. But then again we still have to deal with white man Shredder, so this all boils down to an epic disaster. At this point I'd welcome Venus de Milo back into the fold, she certainly couldn't make this movie any worse. Perhaps Megan Fox will get mutated into her.

01-22-2014, 06:53 PM	#28
Aelia Hamfisted Bun Vendor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 1,582	Alright, but what shade of lipstick do you think would look good on him?

01-22-2014, 07:23 PM	#37
Bob Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK, England Posts: 546	Why hasn't this clown been banned yet? Honestly, he should have gone the way of the dodo a long time ago. Last edited by Venom; 01-22-2014 at 09:00 PM.

01-22-2014, 08:56 PM	#40
hitmonkey Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 236	They're giant talking mutant turtles who know martial arts and fight a clan on ninja based out of Manhattan. Why does that concept need to take realism so far that we analyze the science of their ability to speak? The lips look dumb on a Ninja Turtle.