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Old 05-25-2014, 08:04 PM   #21
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It can only work if you treat turtles as aliens (note: Make them act like aliens) to contrast how human the ninja turtles have become from being raise by Splinter but the challenge would be writing them without making them seem lesser or glorified. I.E "humanity is superior and we should all try to be human" or noble savages that written to be perfect mary sues.

There would be things that sounds incomprehensible for turtles like raising children or monogamy.

And among other things.
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The desire to avoid death of the individual. (The sole big exception to this is a species with a hive mind, and then, of course, they’re usually presented as faceless enemies)
The desire to “progress.”
The fear of death.
Belief in a supernatural realm of existence beyond the body.
The desire to create art.
The sex drive.
The desire to protect children. (Again, not having this desire, or killing human children, tends to move the species at once into the realm of evil—and, in fact, to give them what’s actually quite a recognizable desire: the immoral love of torture and murder. And yet plenty of animal species do not defend their children, and are neither immoral nor evil).
Division of labor.
Gender roles—or, for that matter, genders at all.
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Old 05-25-2014, 08:32 PM   #22
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No, that would completely change the turtles. If there is a turtle-man race, then they aren't mutants, and they are not alone and only have each other. A huge portion of the turtles identity would be taken away.
No it would because they grew up differently, they would be seen as outcasts by their own turtle race.

It's the same as kid of immigrants. In the country they live they are from "over there" and in their home country they are also thought to be from "over there."

This would actually be a cool story to explore.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:45 AM   #23
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The only other Turtle I want to see in the series is Tokka!
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:16 PM   #24
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No it would because they grew up differently, they would be seen as outcasts by their own turtle race.

It's the same as kid of immigrants. In the country they live they are from "over there" and in their home country they are also thought to be from "over there."

This would actually be a cool story to explore.
No not really, being a turtle race, there is no longer any doom over losing their kin. There's a race to bring future generations, and the turtle a have a possibility for a life that could be considered normal.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:08 PM   #25
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^Mutant turtles that came to be thanks to ooze =/= Turtles that evolved into an intelligent species.

Hell, there's the issue of "They probably won't be biologically compatible"
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:10 PM   #26
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No not really, being a turtle race, there is no longer any doom over losing their kin. There's a race to bring future generations, and the turtle a have a possibility for a life that could be considered normal.
That under the assumption the turtles are within the same species, which is unlikely if they come from far off hidden geological location. It biology impossible to breed a human and chimpanzee together and yet they are consider to be primates. The same situation could applied to here with red slider turtles and map turtles.

Interacting with these people is going to feel very much like hanging out with bunch of aliens that don't have human concepts.
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:17 PM   #27
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No not really, being a turtle race, there is no longer any doom over losing their kin. There's a race to bring future generations, and the turtle a have a possibility for a life that could be considered normal.
Because loosing the only family you know it's ok because there are other turtles?

Most of the mutant characters in the TMNT are the "last of their race." This has been rarely a huge main story factor.
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:22 PM   #28
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I don't think I'd want to see a whole race of turtles, but what about a "B" Team of turtles? How about Venus, Slash, Tokka, and maybe a new version of Kirby? Perhaps have them clashing with the turtles but eventually forming their own team and relocating to a different location, like the West Coast.

I know Venus gets lots of hate, but she could have a totally different origin in the toon.

The line up could be

1) Kirby: The leader of the group. Maybe having an origin of being created in the lab by Shredder/Baxter in an attempt to create their own version of a superior ninja turtle. He could be made up of mutant dna from primarily human/turtle but also containing dna of other animals giving him enhanced strength, speed, and intelligence.
2) Venus: she's 2nd in command. She's a little too serious and has mystical powers. Is excellent in hand-to-hand combat and kind of the "mom" to the team. She was also created by Shredder in an attempt to gain the turtles trust/love and betray them to Shredder. Obviously that backfires.
3)Tokka: Yet another Baxter creation. He's a little dimwitted (think Mikey) but very loyal and very fierce in battle.
4)Slash: We all know the Nick Slash. He joins this new ragtag team of turtles and feels right at home with them.

Just something I thought up quickly. Feel free to add/change any of the characters and share your ideas!

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Old 05-28-2014, 06:01 PM   #29
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I've got to be honest, I'm not crazy about the idea - I kind of like the guys being "special" and the only ones of their kind... I think that knowing they are alone is a big part of their characters. But that's not to say it couldn't be an interesting story idea (in the right hands).
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:51 PM   #30
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If they want "more" turtles they should just explore the concept of the battle nexus / whatever other dimension hopping mechanic they want. Let them meet themselves from another world and all that.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:26 PM   #31
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I like the Team B idea.

What if someone created their own ninja turtles? They come across mutagen and wanting to out do them buys 4 turtles, mutates them, raises them and trains them to fight but in different styles.

They would not be evil twins or even villains. I mean some fanatic, like Pulverizer, who wants his own team to fight crime. That'd be pretty cool.
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