How would you feel if....there were more turtles like a race of turtles

[Luckyday]

Alright alright, before you throw a verbal shoe at my head just let explain a few things.

Would you less bother if

• Not textbook mutants, meaning they're more along the lines of an anthropomorphic race like the fox people in the archie series

• Not even the same type of turtle

• Must importantly, they're not ninjas. At best, they do have a warrior class built within their society but they have entirely different fighting style that comes with it.

You can still make the original four ninja turtles unique but you'll have make them different from everyone else. More on the lines of mutants from X-men or Vulcans from Star Trek. Close but different. It could honestly work, and might something neat to explore as a writer, as long you don't make them aliens, because that just stupid.

[Candy Kappa]

No, that would completely change the turtles. If there is a turtle-man race, then they aren't mutants, and they are not alone and only have each other. A huge portion of the turtles identity would be taken away.

[Shark_Blade]

They're no longer alone, that isolation feeling would be gone.

It's because they're alone that their family ties are strong imo.

[BubblyShell22]

No, I wouldn't want this because then it takes away from the uniqueness of the Turtles being the only mutant Turtles in New York. Yes, we have other mutants now, but that's due to the mutagen canisters and not because they are just there. I'd rather it just be the Turtles themselves.

[Luckyday]

Yes but most likely it could really mess up the tone of the entire franchise but under the right conditions, and maybe wait until very late into the series when all ideas are milk to death, it could make up some pretty interesting story lines base on the fact that not all of them are going to react the same way. Also maybe bring up some interesting questions.

How much had living in total isolation had effected them? Are some psychological side effects being raise by a man ,who use to be human and still see himself mostly human but with some slight animal qualities?

It's almost like when you know that you're adopted but your foster parents decide to be assholes one day and were like "Hey, Billy. Did you know that your biological birth mom, you know, the one who abandoned you and left alone on our door step when you were just a newborn baby with umbilical cord still attached, just roll into town and she now living across the street.....where you live. You should go say hi to her.



Do you either go into full on rage mood because you know your life will never be the same despite the fact that you were just fine the way things were? Do you get overjoy but end up becoming increasing over obsessive? Or do you straight up live in total denial and pretend they don't exist.

This open up a whole new level can of worms.

[CyberCubed]

If it was a race of alien turtles like the Turtleoids it might work, otherwise no.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

If it was a race of alien turtles like the Turtleoids it might work, otherwise no.

So pretty similar and identical on the outside but completely different on the inside like Vulcans and the Humans?

[TurFlytle]

Remember when the 2014 turtles used to be aliens?

[RaphAndDonnie]

With a very talented writer I could see it working. But it could easily be botched.

[BabyTurtles]

well.....I'd rather they not.

I like the thought of the turtles being the only turtle people...

[snake]

I like my turtles as a group of only four, so no.

[Warhorse]

No. I don't think I'd like that.

[Luckyday]

The thing is that people seemed to be forgetting that they were raised by a mutant who use to be a human and still acts like a human and wears clothes and speaks Japanese, so in a sense their upbringing is no different then a human raising an alien from infancy. They have human values at heart but when facing a race with no human values and have more along of the lines of Blue and Orange Morality. Just imagine the conflict what it would be like to finally know that you're not alone but only to realize you can't relate to them because Holy Crap these guys are weird. They always assume that intelligent creatures will act human, because thats just the way it is on a scale of evolution but the cold hard truth thats really more of a personal choice base on the concept of free will and from the effect of being around humans for too long.

And there some things that don't mesh well together like finding humans attractive despite being a five foot talking turtle.

At the end of the day, is really worth changing everything about you to fit in with your kind but with no guaranteed that they will treat as equal? Is really worth it?

Hell no. They have already accepted the fact they're outsiders so why should they be force to change for anyone, especially if turtles in question are not the same species as they are? They already have each other who undoubtedly love them just the way they are and while they are taught long ago to have a open mind that doesn't mean surrendering everything that makes them human.

Deep down what they really want isn't other turtles.... they just want total acceptance from everyone and if it means having to change everything about them to fit in, well **** those guys, because that is not how they were raised. That's not how Splinter raised them.

And that is conflict I want to see.

[kelligrafie]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

The thing is that people seemed to be forgetting that they were raised by a mutant who use to be a human and still acts like a human and wears clothes and speaks Japanese, so in a sense their upbringing is no different then a human raising an alien from infancy. They have human values at heart but when facing a race with no human values and have more along of the lines of Blue and Orange Morality. Just imagine the conflict what it would be like to finally know that you're not alone but only to realize you can't relate to them because Holy Crap these guys are weird. They always assume that intelligent creatures will act human, because thats just the way it is on a scale of evolution but the cold hard truth thats really more of a personal choice base on the concept of free will and from the effect of being around humans for too long.

I'd like to see the turtles find another species or alien race on our planet or dimension X or whatever, that appear primitive, but then as the story goes on, the turtles realise that just because they're not as technologically minded or 'advanced', it doesn't mean they're not intelligent or evolved. And the turtles start to suspect, that they might not be the dominant species?

I think that could be a good storyline for Donnie.

[The Fifth Turtle]

It would make a cool episode of sorts but not an entire revamp. Certain aspects of the turtles change from incarnation to incarnation but the basics should always remain constant IMO.

[Warhorse]

Well, didn't 2k3 have a tongue in cheek like humor when the boys noticed an elderly Turtle leading his Ninja Rat protoges?

[Luckyday]

Well I be damned. The OT series had already did it.

And they did twice!

[NoName999]

My response:

[Luckyday]

OH COME ON!
At least think of it as a concept to explore.

[MCLeo28]

That actually doesn't seem too bad and can create internal-conflicts when the Turtles and possibly Splinter learns from the turtle's experience that being the same is not all that it's cracked up to be.

However, if the writers can't execute the idea well, then I'd rather they not do this.