Where's Oroku Saki? - Page 2

jase · 03-28-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Some possibilities, for those so inclined to care:

A) Just as Erich Sachs might be a host to Krang now, once upon a time Oroku Saki might have been a host to Krang as well.
B) Oroku Saki could be a historical figure from Feudal Japan that was inspirational to Erich Sachs. Possibly seen in some manner of flashbacks.
C) Oroku Saki could have been Erich Sachs' direct mentor. Perhaps Erich Sachs killed him and assumed his identity.
D) If there is a Japanese branch of the Foot, he may be its leader. Karai is in the movie, after all.

I'm betting one of the 4 options there. Oroku Saki will be name-dropped at the very least, I'm sure.

Option A is something my wife and I talked about yesterday after we watched the teaser together. I don't know, the vibe it gives off plus the way that writer handled some of the questions in that interview for me at least suggests that Sachs could actually be Krang for this version of the turtles and that Saki/Shredder might be something else entirely for another plot down the road.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-28-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thesaintofkiller

Years later, we still laugh at how badly Fox handle that movie. And we will do the same with this new Shredder..

One question...who's "we"?

thesaintofkiller · 03-28-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

One question...who's "we"?

Know a single Fantastic Four fan that enjoyed Fox' 2005 Doctor Doom treatment? Really? I though we was pretty obvious.

MastahShredder · 03-28-2014, 02:02 PM

Maybe Fictner isn't Shredder. Sachs just developed the suit for him to combat the Turtles.

l

Maybe I am just seeing things but that looks like a reflection coming off a pupil. Also the height difference along with how straight the suit is standing. It looks like a person is in there.

slingtheory · 03-28-2014, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thesaintofkiller

This whole change from Oroku Saki to a white rich business man villain reminds me a lot of Fox' treatment to Doctor Doom in the 2005 fantastic four movies. People were hoping, even at the last second, that there would be more to it than meet the eyes. There wasn't.

And there won't be in this case either. Don't kid yourself. It's a white Shredder with a really dumb change of name. It's the same thing Michael Bay always does. It's the EXACT same thing as what Fox did to Doctor Doom. It lacked imagination back then and it still does today.

Years later, we still laugh at how badly Fox handle that movie. And we will do the same with this new Shredder. There's nothing more to it.

All those speculations do is remind us how badly they are handling one of our favorite villain.

pretty much what I'm expecting. The only question for me is what gimmick are they going to use. Is he going to be a super soldier, a mutant, or just some guy in power armor.

*TigerClaw* · 03-28-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MastahShredder

Maybe Fictner isn't Shredder. Sachs just developed the suit for him to combat the Turtles.

l

Maybe I am just seeing things but that looks like a reflection coming off a pupil. Also the height difference along with how straight the suit is standing. It looks like a person is in there.

http://i.imgur.com/wq6gLE7.jpg

I'm curious as what room is that, that looks like a bright hallway in the background.

Kurai · 03-28-2014, 03:43 PM

This has been said in threads before, but it probably wouldn't be of any surprise if 'Hamato Yoshi' didn't exist either, and Splinter was really April's dad.

*Vicky82* · 03-28-2014, 03:47 PM

I have a theory - Eric Sachs is descendant to the original Shredder and he inherited the suit of armor which is passed on from generation to generation.

*Coola Yagami* · 03-28-2014, 03:48 PM

Where's oroku saki? What, you didn't see Fitchner in the trails or hear his voice over?

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-28-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I have a theory - Eric Sachs is descendant to the original Shredder and he inherited the suit of armor which is passed on from generation to generation.

I think that he's just a crazy guy who's obsessed with Japanese culture.

MastahShredder · 03-28-2014, 03:59 PM

Looking at the suit..looking at Fichtner. I just don't picture him in the suit. He's so small that unless that thing has some mechanical stuff going on, he's no match for 7 foot Ninja Turtles who can smash Hummers in half and chuck people 30 feet in the air. Unless..he is mutated which I could see happening. At least partially.

I'm going to stick to my theory that Sachs just developed the the suit as a way to combat the Turtles.

graphic_content · 03-28-2014, 04:17 PM

everytime i see this trailer, I imagine ERIC SACHS as a man obsessed with the mythos of the Shredder. He drowns himself in everything he can find, and ultimately convinces himself he is the reincarnation of the Shredder. That, or he he 'hears' voices in his head, the Shredder of old speaking to him ala the first spiderman film, with william dafoe's goblin. It drives him mad, and has him turn on the city, and the turtles.

*TrickOrTreater* · 03-28-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by graphic_content

everytime i see this trailer, I imagine ERIC SACHS as a man obsessed with the mythos of the Shredder. He drowns himself in everything he can find, and ultimately convinces himself he is the reincarnation of the Shredder. That, or he he 'hears' voices in his head, the Shredder of old speaking to him ala the first spiderman film, with william dafoe's goblin. It drives him mad, and has him turn on the city, and the turtles.

Yeah that sounds like a bummer.

sethmartin · 03-28-2014, 04:40 PM

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Yeah that sounds like a bummer.

Yeah. Not to sound old but the original story origin is so well written and so creative that I don't know what they could possibly do to make it better. They'll try and make it too "realistic" which will clash with the fantasy of mutated turtles who can talk and fight crime. Or they will go overboard with the fantasy elements and it will be overkill.

swing_kinker · 03-28-2014, 05:08 PM

Looking at the feudal paintings everywhere when 'shredder' is in the trailer, I have a feeling he's going to try and resurrect the real shredder and its going down the spiritual route.

*Powder* · 03-28-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sethmartin

So what's Splinter's name going to be? Hamilton Young?

& so exits a hearty audible laugh from my gut.

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Originally Posted by swing_kinker

Looking at the feudal paintings everywhere when 'shredder' is in the trailer, I have a feeling he's going to try and resurrect the real shredder and its going down the spiritual route.

I would actually find that... kinda interesting!

graphic_content · 03-28-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by swing_kinker

Looking at the feudal paintings everywhere when 'shredder' is in the trailer, I have a feeling he's going to try and resurrect the real shredder and its going down the spiritual route.

I could see that too - Fitchner stated in interviews that his character goes through several changes in the movie, so it wouldn't surprise me if the spirit of the original Shredder actually took over him - and honestly, considering how spirit-spilled Japanese mythos is, I wouldnt mind this route.

*blindturtle02* · 03-28-2014, 05:39 PM

Lovin the possession theory. Now that, I'd like to see. It'd make for one wild ride.

thesaintofkiller · 03-28-2014, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blindturtle02

Lovin the possession theory. Now that, I'd like to see. It'd make for one wild ride.

At the same time it feels like a very complicated way to NOT cast a Japanese actor for the role...

TMNT is cooler than MOTU · 03-28-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_sheep

I think that he's just a crazy guy who's obsessed with Japanese culture.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking.

03-28-2014, 02:02 PM	#24
MastahShredder Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: New York Posts: 743	Maybe Fictner isn't Shredder. Sachs just developed the suit for him to combat the Turtles. l Maybe I am just seeing things but that looks like a reflection coming off a pupil. Also the height difference along with how straight the suit is standing. It looks like a person is in there. __________________

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03-28-2014, 03:59 PM	#31
MastahShredder Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: New York Posts: 743	Looking at the suit..looking at Fichtner. I just don't picture him in the suit. He's so small that unless that thing has some mechanical stuff going on, he's no match for 7 foot Ninja Turtles who can smash Hummers in half and chuck people 30 feet in the air. Unless..he is mutated which I could see happening. At least partially. I'm going to stick to my theory that Sachs just developed the the suit as a way to combat the Turtles. __________________

03-28-2014, 05:39 PM	#38
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	Lovin the possession theory. Now that, I'd like to see. It'd make for one wild ride. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

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Kurai Thug Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 72	This has been said in threads before, but it probably wouldn't be of any surprise if 'Hamato Yoshi' didn't exist either, and Splinter was really April's dad.

03-28-2014, 03:47 PM	#28
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,804	I have a theory - Eric Sachs is descendant to the original Shredder and he inherited the suit of armor which is passed on from generation to generation.

03-28-2014, 04:17 PM	#32
graphic_content Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,423	everytime i see this trailer, I imagine ERIC SACHS as a man obsessed with the mythos of the Shredder. He drowns himself in everything he can find, and ultimately convinces himself he is the reincarnation of the Shredder. That, or he he 'hears' voices in his head, the Shredder of old speaking to him ala the first spiderman film, with william dafoe's goblin. It drives him mad, and has him turn on the city, and the turtles.

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swing_kinker Thug Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 98	Looking at the feudal paintings everywhere when 'shredder' is in the trailer, I have a feeling he's going to try and resurrect the real shredder and its going down the spiritual route.