I think this will be a surprise hit

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Wow so offensive, like I didn't even insult you but you insulted me. I'm upset, truly I am. Not.

And yes, it's crap as if it's written by a childish kindergartener. Truly terrible plot and pacing, terrible music and cringeworthy dance numbers. Poor characters aside from Kermit and Ms Piggy but that's not saying much. So many people walked out of the cinema when I watched it. Some slept through it. I stayed until the end, and as we walked out people were muttering among friends "who the heck recommended us to watch this??!", "I regret coming", "I hate the musics". My little sister even said: "worst movie ever" at that time.

I actually thought the Muppets was a pretty bad movie too.

The Boston Ninja Turtle Im not trying to be offensive or anything, but considering the fact that you want others to respect your opinion, you should probably start doing the same.

[Anton Chigurh]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

So because you think those movies are crap the whole world should to?

or are you to dumb to notice a well written story or real crap slapped together by hasbeens

iD wipe my Muppet loving ass with TMNT anyday just to See kermit drop kick Leonardo

your on the wrong forum then bud, lol

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Anton Chigurh

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your on the wrong forum then bud, lol

im sorry but sharkblades been getting on my nerves with his pretentious..."this is the best tmnt because its tmnt, and tmnt is perfect out of gods eye, everyone else are haters" talk

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

So even if the reviews are bad, I'm not worried. As long people buy tickets and watch it, we're okay.

I hope audience numbers count just as much as tickets bought, because they're giving away an awful lot of free tickets via Crush.

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

im wipe my Muppet loving ass with TMNT anyday just to See kermit drop kick Leonardo

Oh no you didn't. *grabs swords* We're taking this outside...

[Coola Yagami]

People are expecting it to be a hit. I think it's gonna be a surprise bomb.

[Leo656]

Coola: A bomb in that it doesn't do well at all, or a bomb in that it makes its budget back, but little more?

I think, honestly, it'll at least make its budget back. I think that if it's vapid that even nostalgia won't get many people in the theater more than once, but I'm expecting the brand name to bring it up to at least a respectable number. I just don't think it will be super-huge, because it seems to lack the things that make a film enjoyable on a level past "that looked cool".

"Bomb" or "disappointment", though, are tough to accurately define. People still love to refer to "Superman Returns" as a bomb, disappointment, etc., but it made back over twice what it cost and the DVD was one of the top selling DVDs of the year. In fact, it made quite a bit more than "Batman Begins", which was universally praised, yet "Returns" didn't get two sequels. It's only viewed as a "disappointment" by history because WB set an arbitrary number that they wanted to see the movie hit to be considered a "success", and it fell a few million short, so the studio immediately disowned it. WB calling it a failure in turn led everyone else to parrot that belief, when in fact, it was anything but that. It made a lot of money, or at least, what was considered "a lot of money" before Transformers and Avengers came out. It wasn't even a case of, "This movie needs to make X to be successful," it was, "We would like to see it hit X because we're not convinced the character sells, so if it doesn't hit X we don't want to spend the money again.

So, I don't think TMNT will "bomb" in that nobody will go see it. I just think it might be a case like "Returns", where everyone makes up a number they expect it to hit, and if it doesn't, that's "failure".

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Coola: A bomb in that it doesn't do well at all, or a bomb in that it makes its budget back, but little more?

I think, honestly, it'll at least make its budget back. I think that if it's vapid that even nostalgia won't get many people in the theater more than once, but I'm expecting the brand name to bring it up to at least a respectable number. I just don't think it will be super-huge, because it seems to lack the things that make a film enjoyable on a level past "that looked cool".

"Bomb" or "disappointment", though, are tough to accurately define. People still love to refer to "Superman Returns" as a bomb, disappointment, etc., but it made back over twice what it cost and the DVD was one of the top selling DVDs of the year. In fact, it made quite a bit more than "Batman Begins", which was universally praised, yet "Returns" didn't get two sequels. It's only viewed as a "disappointment" by history because WB set an arbitrary number that they wanted to see the movie hit to be considered a "success", and it fell a few million short, so the studio immediately disowned it. WB calling it a failure in turn led everyone else to parrot that belief, when in fact, it was anything but that. It made a lot of money, or at least, what was considered "a lot of money" before Transformers and Avengers came out. It wasn't even a case of, "This movie needs to make X to be successful," it was, "We would like to see it hit X because we're not convinced the character sells, so if it doesn't hit X we don't want to spend the money again.

So, I don't think TMNT will "bomb" in that nobody will go see it. I just think it might be a case like "Returns", where everyone makes up a number they expect it to hit, and if it doesn't, that's "failure".

It will be a failure. But for some reason I expect it to have a craptastic sequel. People are shortsighted. They'd rather see a trilogy of this mess than let a better creative team do a better job and succeed where pd screwed up.

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It will be a failure. But for some reason I expect it to have a craptastic sequel. People are shortsighted. They'd rather see a trilogy of this mess than let a better creative team do a better job and succeed where pd screwed up.

I am NOT shortsighted just because I want to see this movie.

Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if this movie bombs.

[Leo656]

I think people are only "short-sighted" in that they'd happily take a poor movie over none at all, just so the brand doesn't go away. Not saying for sure this movie IS poor, but pretty much everyone HAS said, "Even if it's bad, I WILL love it anyway, because it's TMNT." That's what I think is a little bit wrong.

I mean, I decided back in 1997 or so, that I'd prefer nobody ever made a Batman movie again if "Batman & Robin" or even "Forever" was as good as they could do. It's not worth it. Likewise, IF this movie is bad, I won't cry if it fails. But people shouldn't ever just blindly support anything with Brand X on it. That's my issue. Like what you like, but that whole, "Well, it's bad, but I love the brand, so here's my money" kind of thing some people have going on.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

People are expecting it to be a hit. I think it's gonna be a surprise bomb.

I honestly seeing it going either way, right now I think its heavily up in the air. For one this thing has been getting a lot of press but for all the wrong reasons. People might go see it as a joke, but then again people might skip it and go see GOTG for a second time.