‘Ninja Turtles’ May Shell-Shock ‘Guardians’ at Box Office (The Wrap Article)

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Sanjuro

The most popular Marvel characters are still relatively unknown if you want to make that argument.

Point is, it's still a part of this Marvel Universe which has been incredibly popular, and the characters are now fairly well known in that respect.

How are Iron Man or Captain America relatively unknown compared to anyone in GOTG? They've been in 3-4 movies each now. The general movie-going public know who they are. It's not like this is a sequel where the public has already been introduced to these characters.

Originally Posted by Anton Chigurh

stop reaching....

How am I reaching? What have I said that isn't true?

People are acting like this would be a big accomplishment if TMNT were to beat GOTG at the box office this weekend. If this was also GOTG's opening weekend then it would be a huge deal.

Just look at the last two Marvel (non MCU) movies released this summer. Spider-Man 2 and X-MenOFP both opened to over $90 million (like GOTG) its opening weekend and were then beaten it's second weekend by Neighbors and Maleficent, respectively.

[Sanjuro]

Iron Man and Captain America were both Marvel's B-Squad prior to the films.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Sanjuro

Iron Man and Captain America were both Marvel's B-Squad prior to the films.

Sure, but the GotG were the D-Squad. Cap and Iron Man both had a whole bunch of cartoon shows and toys and video games and merchandise produced long before the movies existed. The GotG characters are really seeing the mainstream for the first time ever in any significant way.

[Sanjuro]

If you're familiar with the Marvel Comics, they are probably B-C-Squad at this point in time. That point is valid.

The big draw here is the film is directly tied into the Marvel Universe, sharing the same storyline as other popular films as recent as this year.

[TigerClaw]

a bunch of Theaters are having Showings tonight, It'll be interesting to see the Numbers the film gets on its Thursday night screenings.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Sanjuro

If you're familiar with the Marvel Comics, they are probably B-C-Squad at this point in time. That point is valid.

I'd say they've ballooned in popularity in the comics since the movie was announced. There are currently three GotG comics running, which is a first. That wouldn't be the case without the movie drumming up interest, though.

Originally Posted by Sanjuro

The big draw here is the film is directly tied into the Marvel Universe, sharing the same storyline as other popular films as recent as this year.

Sure, that's a part of it. A big one. But the movie was still a much bigger risk than anything in the series yet, and especially for an August release. Great marketing, positive word of mouth and the quality of the film played a huge role.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

a bunch of Theaters are having Showings tonight, It'll be interesting to see the Numbers the film gets on its Thursday night screenings.

A strong Thursday night is expected for me. It's what the general audience word of mouth does to Friday-Sunday that's the wild card.

[Leolead]

If this is true..... Told you so!!

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'd say they've ballooned in popularity in the comics since the movie was announced. There are currently three GotG comics running, which is a first. That wouldn't be the case without the movie drumming up interest, though.



Sure, that's a part of it. A big one. But the movie was still a much bigger risk than anything in the series yet, and especially for an August release. Great marketing, positive word of mouth and the quality of the film played a huge role.

Even on top of the connected universe draw, everyone knows a Marvel movie is gonna be good. They've got a spotless track record. So people may say, "Wow, this movie looks ridiculous," but the next thought that follows is not "It's probably bad." They get a free pass, even though it's scifi, and the characters are so out there.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Marvel does have the "pixar-effect". I thought GoTG looked dumb, I only went to see it because of word of mouth, and it's Marvel. And partly because it was James Gunn, but sometimes when Indie directors go mainstream it's a colossal failure.

This IS an upset if TMNT beats a Marvel movie in it's second week, because GoTG made so much money based off nearly zero tv ads, and it being an unknown series for Marvel, the word of mouth is crazy now for this movie, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it make over $50 million again. If the Turtles make more than GoTG it's a huge. You could guarantee a sequel is coming. I think as long as it makes over $35 million this weekend, a sequel is coming.

I'm going at 7pm west coast time, I'm interested to see if it's packed or not. When I saw GoTG on a Saturday afternoon, it was packed.

[TigerClaw]

I don't know if that Pixar-Effect can last long, Cars 2 didn't do so well.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I don't know if that Pixar-Effect can last long, Cars 2 didn't do so well.

Well, two things, if they put too many movies out too close to each other, and also start making really sub-par movies, basically if every movie was as bad as the Thor movies, it would fade pretty fast.

[THGhost]

There's no way TMNT will beat GOTG. It has a talking tree and a talking raccoon for crying out loud! Audiences have seen talking turtles before.

Originally Posted by floydbanks7

Well, two things, if they put too many movies out too close to each other, and also start making really sub-par movies, basically if every movie was as bad as the Thor movies, it would fade pretty fast.

But the Thor movies aren't bad.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Congratulations. TMNT might be able to squeak out a victory over a movie that's already been out a week and set box office records. Real accomplishment there.

Plus this article has already been posted at least twice.

Huh... typical

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by THGhost

But the Thor movies aren't bad.

That's what I've heard, but not what I've seen.

[TigerClaw]

Thor: The Dark World was pretty good, And it setup Guardians of the Galaxy at the end.

[Coola Yagami]

we'll have to see. everyone i know that has already seen guardians is giving it rave reviews and are gonna see it again this weekend. over turtles. while turtles already has disappointment and 'what have they done to my turtles' all over it. we'll see.

[chrisdude]

I think the Thor movies are fine. It's just that it's mythological stuff trying very hard not to be weird. It's a different genre, dressed up as superhero movies. Not every superhero movie fan is gonna like that stuff. I don't care for the movies at all, myself. But they aren't poorly made.

Except when you go, "Before the universe, there was a weapon of infinite destruction," and just drop that $#!% in the opening narration. That's crap writing...

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Except when you go, "Before the universe, there was a weapon of infinite destruction," and just drop that $#!% in the opening narration. That's crap writing...

You mean like magic blood and tying everything to one single character?

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

You mean like magic blood and tying everything to one single character?

Not quite like establishing the existence of an object of infinite power, that existed before the universe. That's a big bomb to drop in the narration. That's just like a comic book ridiculous...