Reading these threads is depressing me right now... - Page 2

*Bry* · 08-08-2014, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryfields

Its a children show for children. Not attacking fans of the cartoon but jesus christ if you can watch that **** you should be able to enjoy the new movie

Better direction and writing? Its a kids cartoon made to sell toys...

And yet its writing is far superior and mostly holds together while the movie's was terrible and ridden with inconsistencies and really basic plot holes.

Just because something's made for children doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed by adults, or that it can't be written well from objective storytelling standards. Not all children's stories are created equal.

Besides, even movies for kids should be well-written. There's no excuses there.

strawberryfields · 08-08-2014, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bry

And yet its writing is far superior and mostly holds together while the movie's was terrible and ridden with inconsistencies and really basic plot holes.

Just because something's made primarily for children doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed by adults, or that it can't be written well from objective storytelling standards. And not all children's stories are created equal.

You expect too much from a movie based on fighting talking turtles; stick to your kids show

*Bry* · 08-08-2014, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryfields

You expect too much from a movie based on fighting talking turtles; stick to your kids show

I'm sorry it bothers you that I expect movies to be written well. I guess I'll stuck to the cartoon show about ninja turtles and the movie about a talking racoon and a tree man that managed to pull that off.

Warboss74 · 08-08-2014, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryfields

You expect too much from a movie based on fighting talking turtles; stick to your kids show

He really doesn't, though, given the quality of modern Comic Book Movies.

strawberryfields · 08-08-2014, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Warboss74

He really doesn't, though, given the quality of modern Comic Book Movies.

Well, to be fair to the people who made the new movie, I don't think their demographic was adult cartoon watchers

*Bry* · 08-08-2014, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryfields

Well, to be fair to the people who made the new movie, I don't think their demographic was adult cartoon watchers

Ooh, so dismissive!

You're right, though. Their demographic is everybody, kids and adults alike, cartoon-watching or not. And they've managed to appeal to them all very well with a quality product they can all enjoy.

And they do that by taking care to write and produce them really really well.

*TrickOrTreater* · 08-08-2014, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bry

Ooh, so dismissive!

You're right, though. Their demographic is everybody, kids and adults alike, cartoon-watching or not. And they've managed to appeal to them all very well with a quality product they can all enjoy.

Yeah but that takes talent.

Too much to ask for the folks involved in this production.

Warboss74 · 08-08-2014, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryfields

Well, to be fair to the people who made the new movie, I don't think their demographic was adult cartoon watchers

From all the reviews that have come out, they really didn't know who their audience was. Let's not forget that the franchise is 30 years old and the phenomenon was at it's absolute height 25 years ago. They obviously wanted to capture that demographic with all the OT references and inspired decisions.

*Rooish* · 08-08-2014, 06:25 AM

It's kind of all bumming me out too. I don't like the Nick cartoon at all--in fact I'd say it's very sloppily written with little care for its ongoing plots. It does seem weird to me that everyone loves it and not the movie. I haven't seen the movie yet though so we'll see.

Midnight Mutant · 08-08-2014, 06:36 AM

Actually, I think people are responding pretty well. Sure there's a lot of people who don't like it and a lot who do....but there aren't a ton of flame posts raging against it for unreasonable things.

I've mostly just seen people argue their points to each other rather calmly.

How is that depressing?

Le Glorieux Tortue · 08-08-2014, 06:49 AM

This message board is depressing me . The whole lot of you is way too oversensitive and overemotional to have any real discussion. Feel like I'd like to leave.

*Netkeeper* · 08-08-2014, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Glorieux Tortue

This message board is depressing me . The whole lot of you is way too oversensitive and overemotional to have any real discussion. Feel like I'd like to leave.

It's just part of how a lot of fannish internet discussion goes. Fans tend to get a bit more worked up than a lot of other people as it is, but add the internet to it, and you've got the GIFT in full-force.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-08-2014, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FakeBritishAccent

...which is unfortunate because I enjoyed the f**k out of this movie. And that's coming from someone who also watched "Guardian of the Galaxy" less than 12 hours before the Turtles.

So, carry on guys. I won't be back here for a while.

TURTLE POWER!

I'm the same as you, I watched both movies.

Just ignore the haters and carry on loving what you love.

TMNTChris1980 · 08-08-2014, 08:01 AM

Seriously if I hear one more person say that I'm expecting too much from a movie with 4 talking turtles I'm going to lose my mind. Do you really like TMNT? Because honestly, dismissing the turtles like that makes me think that you don't care what they do with them. You should look back at all the incredible art, stories, etc. that has been done with them.

graphic_content · 08-08-2014, 08:06 AM

And the point of this thread is...?

Why do ppl insist on starting a whole new thread to express one damn thought that easily fits into already existing threads?

While I agree with the OP that this place has become a bit depressing with all the fighting, if you really wanted to step back from it all, there wasn't a need to draw so much attention to yourself as you walked away.

~~Puddinpop~~ · 08-08-2014, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FakeBritishAccent

...which is unfortunate because I enjoyed the f**k out of this movie. And that's coming from someone who also watched "Guardian of the Galaxy" less than 12 hours before the Turtles.

So, carry on guys. I won't be back here for a while.

TURTLE POWER!

That's really unfortunate. You're not the only one either my friend. It's a given that some aren't going to like what they see but.. last night with a few posters it was obviously an attempt to create paranoia. Go see it again anyway lol. It's even better the second time around.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-08-2014, 08:40 AM

Ha! I've seen it three times already and loving it!

Xiewin · 08-08-2014, 08:48 AM

Hearing all the mixed reviews, I still wondering if I'll enjoy this movie or not. It's pretty much the same problems I had with GOTG, but then again I really love the nick show for the turtles, because I find the plots on the show poorly written.

*Zulithe* · 08-08-2014, 08:53 AM

i'm hopefully seeing it today and i'm proooobably going to have big issues with it based on the early responses... i'm not pre-judging it but, i am usually right about this feeling.

my biggest fear? that i end up strongly disliking the film and yet it makes TONS of money (so lots of 'bad' sequels)

Cowabunga! Booyakasha! · 08-08-2014, 10:55 AM

I don't care if other people don't like the movie. I know some of my friends will hate it too but I enjoyed the hell out of it and so did my friend that I went with and in the end that's all that really matters.

08-08-2014, 06:36 AM	#30
Midnight Mutant Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 249	Actually, I think people are responding pretty well. Sure there's a lot of people who don't like it and a lot who do....but there aren't a ton of flame posts raging against it for unreasonable things. I've mostly just seen people argue their points to each other rather calmly. How is that depressing? __________________

08-08-2014, 06:25 AM	#29
Rooish Devil's Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,130	It's kind of all bumming me out too. I don't like the Nick cartoon at all--in fact I'd say it's very sloppily written with little care for its ongoing plots. It does seem weird to me that everyone loves it and not the movie. I haven't seen the movie yet though so we'll see.

08-08-2014, 06:49 AM	#31
Le Glorieux Tortue Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 123	This message board is depressing me . The whole lot of you is way too oversensitive and overemotional to have any real discussion. Feel like I'd like to leave.

08-08-2014, 08:01 AM	#34
TMNTChris1980 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 605	Seriously if I hear one more person say that I'm expecting too much from a movie with 4 talking turtles I'm going to lose my mind. Do you really like TMNT? Because honestly, dismissing the turtles like that makes me think that you don't care what they do with them. You should look back at all the incredible art, stories, etc. that has been done with them.

08-08-2014, 08:06 AM	#35
graphic_content Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,423	And the point of this thread is...? Why do ppl insist on starting a whole new thread to express one damn thought that easily fits into already existing threads? While I agree with the OP that this place has become a bit depressing with all the fighting, if you really wanted to step back from it all, there wasn't a need to draw so much attention to yourself as you walked away.

08-08-2014, 08:40 AM	#37
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Ha! I've seen it three times already and loving it!

08-08-2014, 08:48 AM	#38
Xiewin Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 900	Hearing all the mixed reviews, I still wondering if I'll enjoy this movie or not. It's pretty much the same problems I had with GOTG, but then again I really love the nick show for the turtles, because I find the plots on the show poorly written.

08-08-2014, 08:53 AM	#39
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	i'm hopefully seeing it today and i'm proooobably going to have big issues with it based on the early responses... i'm not pre-judging it but, i am usually right about this feeling. my biggest fear? that i end up strongly disliking the film and yet it makes TONS of money (so lots of 'bad' sequels)

08-08-2014, 10:55 AM	#40
Cowabunga! Booyakasha! Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: New York City Posts: 19	I don't care if other people don't like the movie. I know some of my friends will hate it too but I enjoyed the hell out of it and so did my friend that I went with and in the end that's all that really matters.