Is Nick Mikey really the dumbest of all Mikeys?

[plastroncafe]

In our now Infamous "Shell Shocked" interview of him he mentioned that he looks at the Mikey stuff to make sure that it's not...too stupid.

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

In our now Infamous "Shell Shocked" interview of him he mentioned that he looks at the Mikey stuff to make sure that it's not...too stupid.

Can I have a link to this interview.

[plastroncafe]

Sure!
But be warned:
Controversy follows this episode pretty closely.

https://tmntshellshocked.wordpress.c...eli-interview/

[Papenbrook]

Since I only experienced the portrayal of Nick Mikey, I can't comment much. However, I do find Nick Mikey annoying and just plain crude. He almost always has to do something stupid within each episode, without contributing to the plot. It gets old rather quickly. I wish it would just stop, because I know he can be so much more than that. He is not just a "comic relief" archetype.

[Yabuturtle]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Since I only experienced the portrayal of Nick Mikey, I can't comment much. However, I do find Nick Mikey annoying and just plain crude. He almost always has to do something stupid within each episode, without contributing to the plot. It gets old rather quickly. I wish it would just stop, because I know he can be so much more than that. He is not just a "comic relief" archetype.

He does provide comic relief in almost every incarnation, but I agree that he does more than just that. The reason I think the OT Mikey is the best because he was just a party dude, easy going and liked to socialize and was obsessed with pizza even more so than his brothers. Not to mention he was optimistic and often cheered up his brothers when they were down. The other versions of Mikey are alright, but I feel like sometimes they go out of their way to be annoying and idiotic.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

For me, OT was ONE of the "best" incarnations, but the one I originally fell in love with as my favorite was the original movie Mikey. He wasn't dumb or obnoxious at all, he was easygoing , fun-loving, and funny without feeling forced or having to resort to crude, dumb humor. I WISH Nick's version could be more like that.

[aliena]

I felt at first that he was too loud and way too infantile to be taken seriously. Now it's way worse. I've seen Mikey in 4kids and I don't know what's worse. I think 4kids Mikey is at least strong and a good fighter. Nick Mikey makes far too many mistakes all for the sake of comical humor. They really need to tone that down a lot. We did get Savage Mikey a few times though.

Marvel is right though, they did a good job with 90 movie Mikey. As far as I'm concerned, IDW Mikey is my favorite. He isn't stupid and he fights hard. He takes things seriously when appropriate, but he does lean toward the sensitive side more than other incarnations.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by aliena

As far as I'm concerned, IDW Mikey is my favorite. He isn't stupid and he fights hard. He takes things seriously when appropriate, but he does lean toward the sensitive side more than other incarnations.

IDW got that from Mirage/Image, though.

[Ulisa]

OT and Movie Mikey are my favorites because they are funny, laid back but still competent fighters and capable of thinking up plans and getting out of trouble on their own. They both also show a degree of sensitivity and compassion for others that makes them relatable.

2k3 I rank a bit lower but I can still enjoy him. He has some good relationships laid out between him and his brothers and the way he interacts with children and animals is beautiful. I was also quite fond of his interactions with Zog.

While I don't want to call Nick Mikey stupid, I do find him to be a very one-dimensional version. He seems like all he is revolves around crude humor and I just don't find that to be an engaging character. There is much more to Mike than that and the fact that the Nick writers don't recognize this is quite sad. In the hands of good writers, Mike could be an excellent character but it doesn't look like Nick has that at the moment. I hope that can change.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Ulisa

OT and Movie Mikey are my favorites because they are funny, laid back but still competent fighters and capable of thinking up plans and getting out of trouble on their own. They both also show a degree of sensitivity and compassion for others that makes them relatable.

2k3 I rank a bit lower but I can still enjoy him. He has some good relationships laid out between him and his brothers and the way he interacts with children and animals is beautiful. I was also quite fond of his interactions with Zog.

While I don't want to call Nick Mikey stupid, I do find him to be a very one-dimensional version. He seems like all he is revolves around crude humor and I just don't find that to be an engaging character. There is much more to Mike than that and the fact that the Nick writers don't recognize this is quite sad. In the hands of good writers, Mike could be an excellent character but it doesn't look like Nick has that at the moment. I hope that can change.

I agree with this 110%

[plastroncafe]

Competent Comic Relief is hard to come by, and mores the pity.

[IndigoErth]

Since he's due to have a thing for her (if we must...), slightly hoping that once Renet shows up he'll finally hit puberty and lose a little of the childishness.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

*sigh* Don't hold your breath, Indigo. I doubt that will happen. If anything, it may make him WORSE. (Praying to whatever higher-up exist that that doesn't happen.)

[Coola Yagami]

I think we need to bring back smart-ass comedy back. Someone who's funny because they're funny, not because they're dumb and 'whoa ho ho, they're dumb and there's the joke'. Ironically in the OT RAPH was the funny one... but because of his snappy comebacks and wisecracks, not because he was dumb.If they insist on making Mikey comedy relief and nothing else... they should try the sarcastic route.

[billbot85]

Yeah, Nick Mikey is undeniably the dumbest one in the franchise. Although there have been plenty of episodes where he's made me laugh, I can see how a lot of his stupid antics can get old and annoying with the fans really quick. I agree that a lot of the comic relief he provides feels forced to the point that it's not even funny anymore.

[Jephael]

Here's my take on the genesis of Michelangelo:

Original Mirage/Image - Witty, laid back, creative, sensitive
Fred Wolf Cartoon - party animal, little bit distracted
Archie Comics (post issue #4) - see Mirage
New Line Movies - mix of Mirage and Fred Wolf
Next Mutation - airhead
4Kids Cartoon - @$$hole
Warner Bros. CGI Film - stoner
Nickelodeon Cartoon - mentally impaired
Michael Bay Film - pervert

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Since he's due to have a thing for her (if we must...), slightly hoping that once Renet shows up he'll finally hit puberty and lose a little of the childishness.

Not sure. Back in them days, there were two types of boys. The mature ones, that were either shy, and afraid to talk to you, or the ones with confidence and would try to impress you with their skills (be it throwing the perfect touchdown or solving the complicated math quiz) Then, there were the immature brats. The ones that liked you, but didn't really know how to go about telling you, so instead, would do stupid stuff to you like pranks or even be mean to you. Mikey just might be the kind of guy to go the latter route.

Originally Posted by Jephael

Here's my take on the genesis of Michelangelo:

Original Mirage/Image - Witty, laid back, creative, sensitive
Fred Wolf Cartoon - party animal, little bit distracted
Archie Comics (post issue #4) - see Mirage
New Line Movies - mix of Mirage and Fred Wolf
Next Mutation - airhead
4Kids Cartoon - @$$hole
Warner Bros. CGI Film - stoner
Nickelodeon Cartoon - mentally impaired
Michael Bay Film - pervert

Yep, pretty good assessment here.

[billbot85]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Here's my take on the genesis of Michelangelo:

Original Mirage/Image - Witty, laid back, creative, sensitive
Fred Wolf Cartoon - party animal, little bit distracted
Archie Comics (post issue #4) - see Mirage
New Line Movies - mix of Mirage and Fred Wolf
Next Mutation - airhead
4Kids Cartoon - @$$hole
Warner Bros. CGI Film - stoner
Nickelodeon Cartoon - mentally impaired
Michael Bay Film - pervert

yeah, that seems the pretty much sum it up I'd say.

Bye the way, Jephael, I keep meaning to tell you how much I love your signature. Where does that artwork come from?

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by billbot85

Bye the way, Jephael, I keep meaning to tell you how much I love your signature. Where does that artwork come from?

It's a banner I made a while back for my site. The artwork is from issue #45 of Archie's TMNT Adventures. I photo-shopped my teenage self in place of Ninjara, which now that I think of it is pretty ironic since I ship Raphael and Mona Lisa!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Here's my take on the genesis of Michelangelo:

Original Mirage/Image - Witty, laid back, creative, sensitive
Fred Wolf Cartoon - party animal, little bit distracted
Archie Comics (post issue #4) - see Mirage
New Line Movies - mix of Mirage and Fred Wolf
Next Mutation - airhead
4Kids Cartoon - @$$hole
Warner Bros. CGI Film - stoner
Nickelodeon Cartoon - mentally impaired
Michael Bay Film - pervert

I agree with all of this except the 4Kids part (where he's slightly insensitive, and a dork at times, but not an outright @$$hole) and perhaps the 2007 movie (where he's more like mildly ADHA and perhaps a touch autistic).