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This is a thread about TMNT designs right? I guess what I'm about to ask kind of counts but I just watched the full B-Roll for the movie and I saw what Bebop and Rocksteady look like with mo-cap suits. My question is, how come the turtles need mo-cap shells but Bebop doesn't need a mo-cap stomach or something, in fact they should have more stuff on because they are bigger than the turtles but in real life they're actually smaller than the turtle actors... whats up with that? How come the turtles need extra stuff for the shell but B&R don't need extra stuff for... everything...
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Considering how ginormous those halved shells the PD Turtles had attached to their backs as giant scabs. The actors probably had a mo-cap shell to move with the added weight.
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I remember seeing something that there were times they weren't wearing it, beyond that...? Maybe it necessarily affects the actor's own movement, reach, and whatnot and differently than just having a large gut would.
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I imagine the shells are not just for weight, but for maneuvering around objects and rooms, so that their future CG shells won't clip objects or characters. I don't think B+R had many sequences where they interacted with things or people in close quarters, aside from scenes that were probably entirely CG.
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Well that's because they had stage performances that didn't require it. Also I noticed that in the B-Roll there was a badass clip that was cut where Bebop takes out two knives and fights Casey with Casey using that pipe
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Should look like mutant RES turtles.
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I'm actually pretty cool with the film's designs, I think they are a great blend of new and previous designs. The OOTS designs are refined to be cleaner and lighter, so that helps.
The Turtles design pays tribute to their 1987 (colored bandanas, harnesses) and 2012 designs (muscular Raph, short Mikey, lean Donnie), but also incorporate apparel and gear that suit them well. I thought Donnie and Mikey worked well with one having a proton pack and tech, and the other having urban cool stuff like a shell necklace and a jacket. Leo and Raph were a little more over-the-top: one was all samurai-like with bamboo armor and tabi, while the other had a do-rag luchador mask with shades and a loincloth; thankfully OOTS toned them down and they look much better. The only thing I really miss are the snouts. But in an interview below Jeremy Howard says they tried the snouts and it didn't work out for talking. So it was a sad but necessary sacrifice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15gd2y3ftxg
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I dunno, Leo and Donnie are at least a little bit snouty still in profile at the very least (in a more 'realistic' kind of way, I guess). I just wish the straight on view didn't betray that and make their faces look flatter than they are. (Raph... there's no helping poor flat faced Raph. And Mikey muddling around somewhere in-between.)
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Yeah, I remember that excuse -- I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now. If animatronics could pull it off in 1990 and 1991, CGI can sure as hell pull it off in 2014 and 2016. They actively chose to make their faces more humanoid to directly/easily paste the actor's expressions onto them. They could have given them a proper, classic TMNT appearance, they just chose not to.
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This thread & conversations I've recently had with '42 inspired me to start doing my own live-action TMNT concept art. I guess my vision is something like Henson meets Nieli.
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Shellington is a plant. That is all.
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All of the above, and then some. At least he's nice. Some of those buggers can be pretty nasty. I guess Paramount rethought their strategy.
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Regardless, I agree with Shellington, on just about everything with these designs
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