Realistically speaking, what will Paramount do with TMNT now?

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Isn't the hold up some sort of legal battle amongst the director and studio of the 1990 film?
I don't think it's for a lack of material, but a lot of old grudges surrounding money owed...

Holy hell-- I knew the writers were suing, but I had no idea Barron and the producers got involved.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...lawsuit-809134

Barron's VHS workprint of TMNT 90 is one of my nerd white whales, right behind Dan Aykroyd's original Ghostbusters treatment.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

Holy hell-- I knew the writers were suing, but I had no idea Barron and the producers got involved.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...lawsuit-809134

Barron's VHS workprint of TMNT 90 is one of my nerd white whales, right behind Dan Aykroyd's original Ghostbusters treatment.

Anytime I read folks here complaining that we haven't received a proper Blu-ray, I wonder why the lawsuit isn't discussed.

If we're the fans we claim to be, shouldn't we be supporting Barron et al. in their fight? Shouldn't we be more vocal?

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

If TMNT were failing all around, I would agree with all of you... but...

-The Nick Cartoon, though no longer as big as it used to be, is still popular and profitable.

-The playmates toys and other TMNT merchandise, whose sales are very very strong, is profitable.

-while to a lesser extent, the IDW comics, and new tie-in board game (along with TMNT's expansion into the world of Heroclix) is popular and profitable in the smaller scale of the collector/nerd market.

-The first PD movie was THE most profitable Nickelodeon branded movie EVER. And it was profitable comapred to the second one.

-This is Nick and Viacom's ONLY relevant superhero franchise. That- again- has proven profitable recently.

I don't see them giving up and putting it on ice when only one pillar of the entire IP isn't holding up. I think they will try again, without platinum dunes this time. if they think there is even a small chance of money being made, there will be a reboot or imaging or movie of some kind, sooner than people think.

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

If we're the fans we claim to be, shouldn't we be supporting Barron et al. in their fight? Shouldn't we be more vocal?

No shortage of support for the filmmakers here. It was pretty recent, too-- about a year ago. I'm shocked that news slipped by me. I figured it would have made a bigger splash with the fanbase.

When the Siegel/Shuster estates sued WB for Superman ownership, a bunch of early draft movie scripts were submitted as evidence, and made public. Might be something to keep our collective eyes out for if this thing ever blows up bigger and goes to trial.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

No shortage of support for the filmmakers here. It was pretty recent, too-- about a year ago. I'm shocked that news slipped by me. I figured it would have made a bigger splash with the fanbase.

When the Siegel/Shuster estates sued WB for Superman ownership, a bunch of early draft movie scripts were submitted as evidence, and made public. Might be something to keep our collective eyes out for if this thing ever blows up bigger and goes to trial.

This is where Superman died for real. The undies and boots and belt went because of that suit.

I know you're up on it, I meant others here. Barron gave us the best cinematic experience we've ever had, but "Screw those guys, I can't have my fancy BD".

Same happened with the Siegel/Shuster estates. The same is happening in this election.

We before me. It's easy to say; even easier to forget.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Anytime I read folks here complaining that we haven't received a proper Blu-ray, I wonder why the lawsuit isn't discussed.

If we're the fans we claim to be, shouldn't we be supporting Barron et al. in their fight? Shouldn't we be more vocal?

Sorry. I wasn't aware of it.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

Sorry. I wasn't aware of it.

Hey, wasn't being accusatory - It just strikes me that we never help, myself included.

Obama got to me tonight...

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Hey, wasn't being accusatory - It just strikes me that we never help, myself included.

Obama got to me tonight...

No problem. I just wish I knew what we could actually do to help out.

[Roseangelo]

This movie lasted three weeks at my local theater. THREE WEEKS. I found that to be hilarious.

[Commenter 42]

We're living in the end times of theatrical distribution.

8k will be the nail in the coffin, if it isn't already dead.
If Viacom has an intelligence, they'll start working on a TMNT VR experience, and funnel all their money in that direction.

We all grew up wanting to be our heroes. Passively watching is no longer the most gratifying experience possible. Of course, I'm biased, but what eves.

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

We're living in the end times of theatrical distribution.

Interesting read. It'll be bittersweet, but I'm fine seeing it go. The experience is, for the most part, utter garbage. The industry should have swayed towards a higher-end experience, like the Arclight or Alama Drafthouse, but instead made going to the movies like visiting the DVD section in Walmart.

My local theater doesn't even smell like popcorn! They cook that stuff weeks in advance and store it.

Bring on better streaming releases, bring on lower-budget projects with more creativity, bring on a better independent release channel. Finance ten low-budget projects instead of a single $100mm movie. Pro-level gear is cheap and accessible. People can learn processes in their bedrooms instead of going into six-figures of debt in film school.

[Zak The Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

This movie lasted three weeks at my local theater. THREE WEEKS. I found that to be hilarious.

It's already gone from the cheap seats theaters here too. My son wanted to see it last week for his birthday and it wasn't offered anywhere.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

We're living in the end times of theatrical distribution.

8k will be the nail in the coffin, if it isn't already dead.
If Viacom has an intelligence, they'll start working on a TMNT VR experience, and funnel all their money in that direction.

We all grew up wanting to be our heroes. Passively watching is no longer the most gratifying experience possible. Of course, I'm biased, but what eves.

Nah, hollywood just keeps churning out boring sh*t, bad sh*t, and cape sh*t. That's why ticket sales are falling. Oh boy $20 for more of the same? Yes please!

There needs to be some major changes within the industry

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

We're living in the end times of theatrical distribution.

Interesting read, but I don't buy it. Theatres aren't going anywhere. Theatrical distribution isn't going anywhere. Going to see a movie, truthfully, is more about filling your evening than it is the movie itself. You take dates on a movie. You go to the movies with buddies. You go see a movie sooner than later if it interests you so you can avoid spoilers and partake in water cooler conversations at work. It's something to do, and no matter how great your sound system is or how big your TV is, it isn't going to rival what they put in theatres.

I think we'll definitely see a big shift in how many of the same kind of movies come out in the same year though. The selection of movies will change for the better but movie going will stay the same.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

This is Nick and Viacom's ONLY relevant superhero franchise.

I don't see them giving up and putting it on ice when only one pillar of the entire IP isn't holding up. I think they will try again, without platinum dunes this time. if they think there is even a small chance of money being made, there will be a reboot or imaging or movie of some kind, sooner than people think.

Except they're NOT superheroes. If you mean comic book franchise, then yes.

I'm content with this as long as it's nothing like the PD junk.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

I say let the franchise go dormant for 4-5 years then reboot it without Platinum Dunes ****ing everything up. They can likely slash the budget significantly if they go with practical suits and only use CGI for their facial expressions and really elaborate stunts/action sequences.

[thundermaster612]

I think that there will be a 3rd movie but not for a while. It made 250 Million less than the last one yes but over time there could be another movie just either less turtle-centric or the other option which I forgot.
Hey, I just got back from 2 hours of martial arts. I'm tired.

[Zak The Neutrino]

Viacom needs to hire Bad Robot to reboot this.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Interesting read, but I don't buy it. Theatres aren't going anywhere. Theatrical distribution isn't going anywhere. Going to see a movie, truthfully, is more about filling your evening than it is the movie itself. You take dates on a movie. You go to the movies with buddies. You go see a movie sooner than later if it interests you so you can avoid spoilers and partake in water cooler conversations at work. It's something to do, and no matter how great your sound system is or how big your TV is, it isn't going to rival what they put in theatres.

I think we'll definitely see a big shift in how many of the same kind of movies come out in the same year though. The selection of movies will change for the better but movie going will stay the same.

^^Today we do. My dad used to sit around the radio with his family.^^

Guess what we don't do anymore.

Things change

[thundermaster612]

People these days are saying every franchise is dying either though they aren't. Its just the fanbase being retarded. People are saying TMNT is gonna die, people are saying Ninjago is gonna die, people are saying EVERY-****ING-THING IS GONNA DIE!. Is there nowhere I can go now that has no idiots going insane for literally no reason? I might just go on the deep web now and have myself get slaughtered in my sleep.