Was the Super-Shredder Oroku Saki???

[Psycho Andy]

I think something that has been neglected to be taken into consideration, though, is that Prof. Perry said he "didn't know" how long it could be. Days, months, whatever, sure. It COULD HAVE taken that long. But, obviously, it didn't, since Tokka and Rahzar were pretty huge, really fast. It obviously didn't take them 15 years, like it did the TMNT.

Running on that note, don't forget that it didn't take Tokka and Rahzar that long to de-mutate back into their non-mutant form. If these two could de-mutate in the span of just a few minutes, couldn't it be possible for Oroku Saki to go from Shredder to Super Shredder in almost the same amount of time?

Perry had said that he'd altered the Ooze, to speed up the process of mutating Tokka and Rahzar. It could've been a vial of this "Altered Ooze" that Shredder injested, to become all Super-ified, as quickly as he had.

Not that I'm shooting down the idea. I think it's a really good one, and a brilliant observation (and the type of thing Marvel Comics writers would use to get themselves out of unpopular changes to characters made by previous writers). I'm just making sure that all the arguments are on the table, before a decision is made.

[Jarrah White]

Sounds logical, but I still find it strange that Shredder's armour mutated with him

[malignant]

Originally Posted by Jarrah White

Sounds logical, but I still find it strange that Shredder's armour mutated with him

It was a movie, people.

[Jester]

true...but tokka and rahzar were also bigger than the tmnt pre-mutation anyway....they were pet turtles tokka and rahzar were zoo animals....esentialy....but u r right perry did alter the ooze...but to make them stupid....not grow faster...and yes they de-mutated quick...but that's just movie non-logic....and it's not the same stuff anyway...it's anti-mutagen not mutagen....and was created off hand...maybe with instentanious de-mutation as a factor....dunna....these are all just guesses....they are probably disproved in other parts of the movie...dunna

[ZariusTwo]

Super Shredder was Kevin Nash

[Demented Utrom]

In the Video Games Shredder dumped Mutagen on Himself and became Super Shredder and got these weird powers.

[Kali]

Originally Posted by Psycho Andy

Perry had said that he'd altered the Ooze, to speed up the process of mutating Tokka and Rahzar. It could've been a vial of this "Altered Ooze" that Shredder injested, to become all Super-ified, as quickly as he had.

Except he said he'd altered the mutagen to make them "intelectually inferior, and thus less dangerous."

It's possible that this change could have effected the rate of growth, though.

[Meira-Bates]

Originally Posted by Kali

Except he said he'd altered the mutagen to make them "intelectually inferior, and thus less dangerous."

It's possible that this change could have effected the rate of growth, though.

It's also possible that Perry altered it as a way to stall things if you think of it. You know, make the needed dose of mutagen MUCH larger so he could hopefully be rescued somehow before the mutants came to be. As for the armor...I can't think of any logical way to explain that...but if Shredder's ('Shredder's'?) armor mutated with him, like it were a part of his own body THAT would explain why the dock could kill him when the trash compactor couldn't. Before mutation his armor protected him from the trash compactor enough he could live and recover. After mutation his armor no longer functioned as well, possibly not at all, so the dock killed him X.x