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Old 08-12-2014, 01:57 AM   #441
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:03 AM   #442
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How exactly is he a nice guy? He doesn't seem to think April owes him affection, nor does he paint her to be a bitch for not liking him.
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:20 AM   #443
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How exactly is he a nice guy? He doesn't seem to think April owes him affection, nor does he paint her to be a bitch for not liking him.
I agree. April has grown to like him...but only when he's being himself, as her friend. He isn't forcing her to like him, nor is he threatening or getting into tiffs with Casey about who should be with April. In fact the last few episodes where it seems like they are building up April and Casey as a couple, he's just stood aside and didn't even acknowledge it. He knows it's happening and it's painful more then likely. But he has other things he needs to concern himself with.
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:28 AM   #444
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Did I miss something? Does "nice guy" suddenly have creepy connotations? Wow; I'd hate to hear what "mean guy" means!
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:35 AM   #445
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It's... a Nickelodeon show...

Do people honestly think they're going to ever see a fully-formed "relationship" between a human being and a mutant turtle? Parents... would... flip. There's no way. Sapient beings or not, mutants or not, "hybrid DNA" or not, 99% of parents would see it as flat-out bestiality, and they'd flip their sh*t, and then that's the end of the show. If anything, you best hope they don't go there, if you want the show to last. I don't see a corporation like Nick arguing for "artistic integrity" in the face of a billion angry letters and phone calls from parents in the Bible Belt.

I understand it's natural to entertain the notion, and it's Nick's fault for even allowing it to be used as a plot point, but... I think people are projecting a little bit too much of what they want to see into the material, honestly.

It's not that I have a huge problem with the idea itself. I don't. I've made more "Ah, c'mon, they all banged April" jokes than anyone alive. But... it's a Nickelodeon show. It's like how we all KNEW Ren & Stimpy were gay, but so long as the show was on Nick, they were never gonna say so. You gotta consider the source as well as the wider audience.
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Gargoyles did..

http://i.imgur.com/1fVnylZ.jpg

And it was in a Disney channel. They also had Beauty & the Beast pairing in a movie so.. I don't see the big deal tbh.

And as I mentioned before, Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf got together AND had a baby.



and this was Mattel
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:38 AM   #446
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lmao here we go, it's been a while since I've gotten on my soapbox about this let's hope I'm not rusty because I'm sure this is what I'm known for
  • Before April is even properly introduced Donnie's pathetically in love with her. Nobody even gets to know her name before Donnie's thinking with his dick.
  • Donnie only wanted to save April in various circumstances because he thinks she's attractive and that saving her would get him points
  • Donnie taking pictures of April without her permission
  • Donnie using robots to spy on her
  • Donnie following her when she told the turtles she didn't want to see them [it ending up saving her notwithstanding because he is still disrespecting her wishes]
  • A picture of her is his ****ing computer wallpaper
  • lmao at this point I'm just being a broken record I think I'll watch through the entire show and point out every instance of April being shitted on by the turtles instead and then just link to it whenever anybody tries to defend Donatello's awful behaviour
  • [Although Mikey and Raph aren't going to get ignored either]
  • Oh right I forgot the worst part
Hi, I'm Netkeeper, and I am seriously offended 2k12 ran my favourite turtle and childhood hero over with a cement mixer! Damn it feels good to be on the warpath again.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:08 AM   #447
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lmao here we go, it's been a while since I've gotten on my soapbox about this let's hope I'm not rusty because I'm sure this is what I'm known for
  • Before April is even properly introduced Donnie's pathetically in love with her. Nobody even gets to know her name before Donnie's thinking with his dick.
  • Donnie only wanted to save April in various circumstances because he thinks she's attractive and that saving her would get him points
  • Donnie taking pictures of April without her permission
  • Donnie using robots to spy on her
  • Donnie following her when she told the turtles she didn't want to see them [it ending up saving her notwithstanding because he is still disrespecting her wishes]
  • A picture of her is his ****ing computer wallpaper
  • lmao at this point I'm just being a broken record I think I'll watch through the entire show and point out every instance of April being shitted on by the turtles instead and then just link to it whenever anybody tries to defend Donatello's awful behaviour
  • [Although Mikey and Raph aren't going to get ignored either]
  • Oh right I forgot the worst part
  • http://i.imgur.com/qQLV8Jr.jpg
Hi, I'm Netkeeper, and I am seriously offended 2k12 ran my favourite turtle and childhood hero over with a cement mixer! Damn it feels good to be on the warpath again.
Even with all that, nothing you said goes beyond episode 7 and you still didn't give a single reason from season 2.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:11 AM   #448
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Ask future Netkeeper that has seen all the season 2 episodes, but here, have one I just thought of:
  • His worst fear is rejection. By April. At least I think this was a season 2 episode it was an awful episode
And yes I do plan on watching them all. But of course, since I hate 2k12, it's not too high on the priority list.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:14 AM   #449
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I never denied that some of his behaviors were creepy. Shell, they point that out in the show. I said that he wasn't a nice guy, and you said nothing to prove that he was. The only point that would stand to such would be that he only saved her to gain points, which is not true. If it were, then he wouldn't have saved Casey too, as Casey is his romantic rival. He wouldn't have saved Timothy; that gained him nothing from April. Yes, he cared about her and saved her because he did, but he didn't do it to score points with her. He did it because that's who he is. And how does a fear of rejection make him a Nice Guy? That's pretty normal. Liking April doesn't inherently make him a bad guy.

I'd also like to point out that he has zero human socialization, so it's a learning process into what is okay and what is not okay.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:17 AM   #450
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Ask future Netkeeper that has seen all the season 2 episodes, but here, have one I just thought of:
  • His worst fear is rejection. By April. At least I think this was a season 2 episode it was an awful episode
And yes I do plan on watching them all. But of course, since I hate 2k12, it's not too high on the priority list.
His worse fear I thought was fearing losing April's friendship again after just recently mending it due to his being a mutant since he's obviously self-conscious about it. I only say this because of what April was saying at the beginning. The romance and crush thing felt completely secondary.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:18 AM   #451
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Tell that to 2k3 Donnie who actually, um, respected women.

lmao @ defending a character's awful behaviour by saying "hes not as bad as he could have been" or "hes not a TEXTBOOK nice guy so hes not bad!!!!!!!!!!"

lmao @ thinking his behaviour is grounds for good shipping material

lmao @ thinking 2k12 donnie is redeemable or defendable in any context
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:19 AM   #452
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also lmao @ how everybody ignores his worst offense, the chart.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:39 AM   #453
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Yeeeeah, okay, whatev. It seems like you really can't back yourself up, so I'm going to disengage now.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:43 AM   #454
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Again, when has he used the chart since episode 7.

It was just collection of scenarios where he can get April to hang out with him. And all plausible responses. Such as saying if she's busy with homework, offering to assist where she needs it and bringing healthy snacks for the two of them to enjoy. That is something friends do. He is just wanting to spend time with her and get to know her as a friend.

While not specifically stated, I'm sure he has response for "No, I don't need help with homework. But thanks for offering."

The way you are making it sounds it's like he is setting up situations for her to climb in bed with him.
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Well...this went crazy
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:51 AM   #456
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Apriltello is always a dangerous discussion topic.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:01 AM   #459
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Again, when has he used the chart since episode 7.
It doesn't matter how many times he used it. It's still unacceptable to do something like that even once.
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Old 08-12-2014, 02:02 PM   #460
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Well, he only used it once, and he never used it again, so who cares? It was just about finding scenarios in which he could hang out with April and get to know her. I admit, some of the things he's done have been creepy, but at least he's not one of those types who abuses and disrespects women. And as has been stated, his crush has been toned down a lot recently.
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